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asciilifeform: but i get the idea.
asciilifeform: most folx i think have eaten it
asciilifeform: well yes, i was speaking from pov of folx who encounter for first time
asciilifeform: so i have nfi.
asciilifeform: i suspect that if either baikal or elbrus ~existed~ in commercially relevant qtys, it would handily corner the 'fuck cisco and usg crapolade' market worldwide
asciilifeform: but i'd luvv to be proven wrong.
asciilifeform: presently i'm not convinced that 'baikal' cpu exists -- experience suggests that it's an elbrus, a small handful of physical items for ru army and a large stack of imaginary bezzle cpus which actually turned into swiss gold and florida mansions for various scum instead of into cpu
phf`: i'll look into it next trip
phf`: tried sourcing it, no dice. person i know who could've helped recently moved to germany
asciilifeform: speaking of zepto, linked http://www.baikalelectronics.com/products/T1 << i muchly would want this. anyone try to buy ?
phf`: asciilifeform: not a friend, a ru reverser that i've spoken to, presumably he accepts hardware from all givers https://zeptobars.com
asciilifeform: btw gabriel_laddel_p i still have an x61 lappy that iirc you wanted
gabriel_laddel_p: No? But I suppose that is the case, isn't it.
gabriel_laddel_p: I was hanging out with aerospace ppl, one of whom works on computer aircraft software -- gave him the function in question and told him it had a floating point error, asked what it was
asciilifeform: currently i haven't with what.
asciilifeform: i'd luvv to know.
asciilifeform: iirc i even linked to datashit here.
asciilifeform: 'no one will believe, but i find the fixation with ancient iron, counterproductive', said asciilifeform from old x60 lappy
gabriel_laddel_p: I can't imagine this would take more than 5 days + a bunch of coffee.
mircea_popescu: "eight." "eight what ?" "eight million. when i was a kid i figured you had to get eight million together to be considered a legitimate rich guy. so i got busy".
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: but I want the _complete_ list.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I have a partial list of hardware related items from the logs.
gabriel_laddel_p: I just turned up an extra $100 and will happily venmo it to you today if you JUST DO IT.
asciilifeform: 'i forgot my hat on top of mt everest, how much would you suppose you must charge, asciilifeform , to fetch it for me ??'
mircea_popescu: it might provide fine support for alf to transition from the phase of "i can't write a trilema" to the phase of "there it is, read it
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I don't care about how long, just want the price
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: this would take a rather long time. and i'm not convinced that the result would be very interesting
asciilifeform: apu1 racks, i even have the mechanical bracket somewhere
trinque: I am not yet this cynical, if only for my own dick-pulling.
asciilifeform: their approach to engineering is 'junkyard wars' -- 'look mother, what i made from dead possum and string!'
mircea_popescu: trinque i don't think they'll ever do something useful though, for the reason that it's useful. somehow the drones intuit and avoid any non-drony un-pointless meaningful activity.
asciilifeform: but relates, because 'make isolating nic for x86' is not a solvable problem, it is a gabriel_laddelism -- for one thing, such a device is already available, it is called usb nic. but is hog-slow, for fundamental reasons (polled i/o)
trinque: I dunno what strategic sense it makes to as yet have no mechanical way to stamp out a full trb node
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd feel happier with random hp box behind proper nic than with special-gentoo-special-raspberypi with rotm realtek/whatever
asciilifeform: costs considerably more, and often hard to get ( the swiss d00dz make'em in batches, i had to wait ~month for mine back when i got it ) than konsoomer crud
trinque: I don't see how that follows.
trinque: not like I keep my keys on mine.
mircea_popescu: i see/
asciilifeform: video works either immediately (pre-obummer cards, approximately) or never (i count 'with closed blob driver package' as == 'never')
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i see box where i can't ban ip as ~useless << why the heck.
trinque: but I don't want to overcomplicate things or this will be another round of "gentoo does not work"
asciilifeform: so i hesitate to say 'workstation'.
trinque: worthwhile I think to define a noob-box of some standard which can be yet purchased.
asciilifeform: but it is not long for this world. i looked yesterday, it is still offered for sale, but who knows for how long.
trinque: sadly now I find the debugger port I saw on it doesn't do dick.
asciilifeform: ( there isn't, i will add, a 'lowest common denominator' solution for those. )
danielpbarron: i got my first booted on first try yesterday
trinque: I still expect them to do something themselves after first boot
trinque: what I'd oppose is say, "and what if folks want to use it as a router, or NAS, or hair-net"
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654561 << i like it. pete_dushenski, thoughts? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i see box where i can't ban ip as ~useless.
asciilifeform: plenty of 'meta' modules (i.e. not iron-specific) without which it is questionable that you have a usable box. for instance, TUN.
trinque: only modules I'm even going to have it build in the first place are those involving block devices, network cards (eth), usb controllers
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm particularly curious re how you trimmed modules. many crapolade modules don't give any obvious indication that they are useless, there is no mechanism for generating a list of 'THESE we actually need, because of the installed iron, and these -- not' ☟︎
danielpbarron: i would like this too
asciilifeform: i'd like to try myself.
trinque: I boot with modules, do localyesconfig, then reboot with that product
asciilifeform: this was the principal obstacle when i tried 'infectious gentoo' concept
trinque: we'll find out; I'm gonna spin up one here now
mircea_popescu: i mean, consider -- the nazis did not think so much of the various romanian/ukrainian/polish courts. and their agitprop did say they you know, lure german girls there to fuck!!11
asciilifeform: and to be fair i have nothing with which to counter mircea_popescu's 'he's the real deal, but they built an immunological cocoon around'im' hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: well, what's the alternative, "of a good man - i am fond twice, of a bad man - not even once" ?
mircea_popescu: the equivalent'd be to propose i'm vulgar because hey, i do the whole "damn... well, basically they fuck, but it was absolutely splendid in verse" schtick so therefore. except the intelligent can't actually be vulgar ; or for that matter socialist.
phf`: i think that my initial dissatisfaction with socialism was partially due to chomsky: a flat graph of equal weights with nodes all alike
phf`: i appreciate chomsky, he gave me a useful analytical tool of considering social and economic dynamic systems in terms of dependency graphs (which doesn't necessarily preclude lizard hitler, but allows for wider range of topologies that includes lizard hitler along all others)
mircea_popescu: now, to sum this up -- it's not that i'm a huge chomski fan or anything ; but it is that if the scaffolding were build up in stanford square and the guillotine ready, i'd have serious problem signing off on chomski ; and some obscure dudes in the sciences depts.
phf`: i suspect americans know of chomsky because he's got a funny name. like zizhek or solzhenitcin. if you can pronounce it correctly you're probably also into opera and appreciating wine
mircea_popescu: i was still mp before bitcoin, just a) you had no way to summon the interest and b) i had no interest to you know, maintain an irc connection like the link with the chest of the covenant.
mircea_popescu: let me point out that a) i visited, when i felt like ; b) they gave me a 10 year visa back in 2000. i was one of the i dunno, maybe dozen romanians with one, at the time ? c) they fucking held the embassy open while my driver was going 100 on the wrong way in bucharest because i met some friends and got to drinking and we lost track of time and we were late. eventually got a police escort to do it under color of law at least, ☟︎
asciilifeform: you can represent this as a choice, but it is disingenuous and i gotta go change gas mask canister
mircea_popescu: and if i felt like doing a phd with whoevere the fuck, i'd have that, also.
mircea_popescu: if i felt like buying in flordia, i'd have mansions in florida.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i got mansions and whatever the fuck.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 16:34 asciilifeform: right. i dun mean the physical box, mircea_popescu . i meant 'in my head, i dun have a trilema' to say.
mircea_popescu: ause it's online and we gotta compete on wordage''' items about current event which i'ma misrepresent as somewhow related to me really really hating the chomsky guy i really look up to for the reasons i actually look up to him, notwithstanding the whole pile exists only in my too-lazy-to-actually-read and too-eager-to-imagine-i-got-it-at-first-sentence''' dumber-than-rocks '''child prodigy''' head"
mircea_popescu: "i think chomsky is really cool because i imagine chomsky to be this guy who is read worldwide and got really rich out of feeding people ''''alt-blue pills in a red coating''' (yes i'm aware this is nonsense, but it is also easy reference to a by now readily understood brand of nonsense this particular idiot club deals in) and i wanna be just like him!!1" becomes "here's some random '''nobody said them so they'll get said bec
mircea_popescu: with the mention that i absolutely don't see his point re chomsky ; but i do see his point re... himself.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated fbar 1 << I dunno, some kid being anony-cool on twitter.
mircea_popescu: !!rate fbar 1 I dunno, some kid being anony-cool on twitter.
shinohai: !~later tell jpt4 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654386 <<< I personally keep losing boats with shipments full of tits. Find the individuals responsible, return my tits, and surely you shall be rewarded. ☝︎
fbar: I'll read about eulora
BingoBoingo: I have been relieved, ty diana_coman
fbar: I registered
mircea_popescu: i'm going to bed. will read the proceeds of the #trilema invasion in the morning, keep it sprightly.
BingoBoingo: Surely there's a courthouse or college campus that needs 3+ cubic yards of fresh uncomposted horse manure for the lulz. I'd rate such a delivery a +2 *if only there were a key to attribute it to*
mircea_popescu: oh yeah huh. i recall it too.
jpt4: I recall his video poker challenge to Urbit some years ago.
fbar: at first I assumed he was referring to a twitter user with the handle of Duke actually
fbar: I just found the site
fbar: I can not commit
mod6: ok done. i copied the text down from the site, got good sig.
Framedragger: ic. i fiddled with it around ~2009 i think. but maybe with some 'freeware' version or w/e.
Framedragger: i never got to really explore D, but vaguely recall the compiler not being / not relying on llvm some years ago
phf`: i'm rewriting everything that asciilifeform is releasing in Ada in Rust, because it's secure AND modern! ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i oughta explain -- the astonishing thing wasn't that ammonal exists ; or that the 2 basic ingredients are sold in shops ( they indeed are , worldwide ) but that the 'mix it yourself' juridicial loophole still holds anywhere in usa ( it appears to, in a few states, for the time being . )
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/ZcXW0ji.jpg << In other WTF
asciilifeform: well i dun have a tract !
asciilifeform: i kinda assumed it were a composite picture.
BingoBoingo: I've been telling you it's a place for years
BingoBoingo: I am pretty sure being less equipped to slay bovine beast than "Rural King" near beast's rampage is pretty damn evaporated