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a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 22:11 ben_vulpes: one wrinkle that occurred to me as i tested this patch against a not-completely synced node this afternoon is that satoshi's early transactions were all of the "pay to pubkey" variety, and not today's standard "pay to pubkey hash" breed.
mircea_popescu: it might be the first time i had something cogent to say about code.
ben_vulpes: i am quite glad of the review.
ben_vulpes: i foolishly, naively assumed the compiler would detect that.
ben_vulpes: i do not understand the subtleties of what is happening in script.cpp, and so decided to stick with shown-good semantics.
ben_vulpes: i had trouble with the pairtype.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i've no problem with it whatsoever.
ben_vulpes: after some time in the pit, i stopped boosting.
ben_vulpes: it may have been simply the first thing i did, and so mimicked existing style.
ben_vulpes: i wish that i could recall my reasoning for using that boostism.
ben_vulpes: with 4 i mean.
ben_vulpes: i will reformat with 2, did not feel like futzing with emacs to make 4 spaces happen for this.
mircea_popescu: no, i know, which is why i ask, what's the style here
ben_vulpes: i did use one final BOOST_FOREACH in the output serialization.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i thought it gets inherited. entirely likely i don't comprehend c loading model.
mircea_popescu: + for (std::map<uint256, std::list<OutputIndex> >::iterator i = relevantOutputs.begin(); i != relevantOutputs.end();) { <<< took me a triple take.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in bitcoinrpc.cpp? i do not think so... http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=wires_rev1
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i thought fstream is already included. no ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 22:00 ben_vulpes: well gosh now that you point that out i have to admit that i do not actually know.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-05-14 21:17:35: <danielpbarron> aaand i have done it. i have a laptop that powers on and without any other touching will end up at the eulora login screen. then when you quit, it drops down to gdb where you can run it again or quit. if you quit, the machine shuts down
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655564 << easy to test when complete, easy to show that it does not work, not easy to test in the sense of "i have changed implementation details, and would like to see how the system behaves now" ☝︎
ben_vulpes: one wrinkle that occurred to me as i tested this patch against a not-completely synced node this afternoon is that satoshi's early transactions were all of the "pay to pubkey" variety, and not today's standard "pay to pubkey hash" breed. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: relatedly, i have a patch in abeyance that fixes the test target. i'll bring that out of the refrigerator and start wiring this new IsMine implementation into it.
trinque: deposits shall be a human process in either case; I'll just have more to do manually until this thing's done
trinque: now I recall. so yes, I could roll forward using those
ben_vulpes: parser, i mean.
ben_vulpes: trinque: you can do this today with the slicer i published a while back
trinque: I'm on deck to help however as well.
mod6: i can help you try to debug/correct the attempt during the week for sure.
ben_vulpes: i'm going to step away from testing the indexer /in toto/, and plug this IsMine overload into the test target
ben_vulpes: (as i predicted last night)
mod6: aside from that, i have no further comments at this time, i've neither read it closly, compiled, nor tested this vpatch.
mod6: (style considerations and grinding can be left off until later. as I was saying before, ``first we make it work, then we make it pretty'')
ben_vulpes: yeah i'll buy that
mod6: typically, i like to be explicit over implicit, and that's just one of these little things.
mod6: He asked me to post my concern here just to start a general dialog about this, and I think that's just fine.
ben_vulpes: i'd assumed false, but do not know that for certain.
ben_vulpes: well gosh now that you point that out i have to admit that i do not actually know. ☟︎
mod6: one of the things that, in a 9 second quick review of this that I asked him to consider was in the implementation of "IsMine"; Specifically, "Consider: What do I return from IsMine if I iterate over the entire list and never find a OP_PUBKEYHASH?".
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 05:03 ben_vulpes: on an eeeentiiiiirely different topic, it took months but i recently got the part of my output indexer that excises spent outputs from the index map to compile, which i believe brings the indexer part of this foray to completion. i invite any who'd like to read and comment to download the (unsigned!) vpatch from here cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/export_outputs.vpatch
mircea_popescu: i suppose the view has legs.
asciilifeform: also apparently bakufu (shogunate) government had serious problem with 'my commander died, now i will seppuku', and tried to suppress it ( subordinate belongs serving the old master's son, what a waste ) but repeatedly failed.
mircea_popescu: i confess i can't imagine how the suicide of competeny, loyal underlying could fail to drive competent ruler to redress.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 17:23 mircea_popescu: no skin off my back. so i'll be the last person alive to know anything, and every girl i ever meet who's not a retard feels an irrepressible urge to kneel and beg.
mircea_popescu: i'm certainly not saving anyone against his own fucking will.
mircea_popescu: no skin off my back. so i'll be the last person alive to know anything, and every girl i ever meet who's not a retard feels an irrepressible urge to kneel and beg. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i could produce more value than what wikipedia's worth by simply boiling the collection of wikipedia "editors" and selling the broth.
mircea_popescu: trinque funny thing being that a) it is infinitely better food than anything pizza hut / taco bell / mcd / kfc etc have on tap and b) it's not really a full dollar a kg from what i've seen.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the next logical step is to you know, "who ordered the this???". make the customer keenly aware you couldn't give less of a shit about 'em and then whine about how you work in the "service industry" ie he HAS TO TIP YOU!!111
mircea_popescu: bitch, if you don't know who i am you already failed your job.
trinque: sadly I think this was a result of a four course meal joint struggling to get by, for same reason as "he didn't introduce himself to me omg"
mircea_popescu: the (very indian) chef of great local place actually came out of kitchen to see these two people who were eating all the stuff i rodered ; but couldn't summon the courage to more than bow from a distance and scurry off. ☟︎
trinque: I used this as a teachable moment for all
trinque: by the time I shook his hand and started chatting with him, guy was uncomfortable and I let him depart
trinque: my back was to the poor guy or I'd have handled it from the beginning, only noticed because idiots were getting uncomfortable across from me
trinque: "uh I don't know, people started cutting their dicks as part of a mass mental breakdown. I think they had quite fair skin."
mircea_popescu: i dunno that anyone reads the guardian for purposes other than superman magazine or hustler.
mircea_popescu: and i swear if i see another one of these ustard precious cuntlet ledes with "o nso and so date so and so insignificant schmuck just like the author was being part of an imaginary sequel of seinfeld" ima kidnap some "innocents" and sell them in gabon.
mircea_popescu: i guess
shinohai: I kinda liked the wankel, would rev to ~10k without batting an eye, perfect marriage for bigger turbos
asciilifeform: re flames, first time i ever rode in a jet, as a boy, was Very Disappoint to see 0 flames coming out of engine
asciilifeform: i almost bought a wankel car once ☟︎
ben_vulpes: that reminds me, i have a rear differential to weld together.
mircea_popescu: i thought you were specifically not supposed to do that
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 21:15 Framedragger: @all thanks to this chat i'll now make some urgent recommendations to startup i'm involved with. maybe it's not even gonna be fucked in the ass if moves decisively away. a bit ashamed i had $opinion on $thing-not-researched in the first place.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 14:09 phf`: that article was inoffensive, but sloppy. some offhand points i think required elaboration (i.e. missing republican footnotes!), others were superfluous
mircea_popescu: i mean... asciilifeform i guess I was asleep at the time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess was asleep at the time.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi, what am i, a carmaker head engineer ?
mircea_popescu: the other item i'm vaguely surprised they're not deplyoing is the actual oxygen purifier engine. srsly, put atmospheric air into your chamber ? because you hate yourself or why.
asciilifeform: hey i was half convinced that i slept for 20yrs and mircea_popescu was about to show me a proper gas turbine auto, lol
mircea_popescu: "oh we've never read it stated like that before!!" "mkay, i'm sure such happenstance does something"
mircea_popescu: if it had such a tail i dunno of it.
asciilifeform: why not caught on, i wonder
asciilifeform: could burn liquishit, i bet
mircea_popescu: item dun really need so much power i don't think, but certainly used in the higher power tractors iirc.
asciilifeform: i always wondered if this is intrinsic to the tech, or just american stupidity
mircea_popescu: "very confused salesman" test. i gotta remember this one.
mircea_popescu: if i take my cues from dudes working in auto dealers, i might even end up with no bitcoin and a dozen credit cards.
asciilifeform: at least on the planet i'm posting from
mircea_popescu: which is what i fucking said.
asciilifeform: maybe meanwhile mircea_popescu will also find hybrid turbine. i'd like one
mircea_popescu: so far i have an onesie and you have your world famous brand of alf's gut flora.
asciilifeform: i'll point out that a 'onesie' ('apricots cured mr smith!') is ~not~ a clinical result.
mircea_popescu: and i will note that your policy of strongly held opinions in poorly known fields is not working so well. not re turbines, not re stem cells etc.
asciilifeform: ( though , unlike locklin, i will not rule out wreckers as the explanation )
asciilifeform: at least all the ones i have here.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 14:13 phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654941 << so i got a replacement copy, in it's in even worse state than the first one! this one the entire lower edge is butchered during cutting. automated self-publishing ftw
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655645 << interestingly, i have never seen this. auto-printed b00kz often suffer from terrible (microshit!) formatting, layout. but physically perfect ☝︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i linked to illustrate the diff between enabled vs provisioned. let's not do another confused is/ought debate
asciilifeform: Framedragger: tell me why i should give half a fuck re intel's, or microshit's, patch to re-nsaonly-ize an nsahole.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 21:24 phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1653984 << so i got a copy, mine had a mechanical looking gash in the spine, had to send it for replacement. otherwise it's not horrible. it's a cheap thermal binding, but the paper is crisp, and the source is TeX so it looks reasonable.
phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654941 << so i got a replacement copy, in it's in even worse state than the first one! this one the entire lower edge is butchered during cutting. automated self-publishing ftw ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger: tl;dr is "i have nfi"
phf`: that article was inoffensive, but sloppy. some offhand points i think required elaboration (i.e. missing republican footnotes!), others were superfluous ☟︎
Framedragger: well, that's why i said "dunno if any good". on *cursory* glance, nothing mischievous, but obvs wouldn't v-sign it
mircea_popescu: oh i see flywheel is mentioned downstream anyway.
asciilifeform: tbh, i doubt it
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 15:11 asciilifeform: and 'dead bitcoin', esp. if it dies on enemy's terms, would imho be a technogenic catastrophe, quite comparable to, e.g., chernobyl. ( not for mircea_popescu 'i'm rich anyway, fuck everyone' , and not for other folx, who might not even have any; but for the concept of 'gold sans the guard labour')
ben_vulpes: it may take some time, especially at my glacial pace, but i think slicing the wallet from the reference implementation (which i don't think is going anywhere?) a worthwhile endeavour.