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ben_vulpes: ah, i missed the marmot.
nubbins`: how can you have deflation when the money supply is increasing :D
dsherm: was just reading contravex's "deflation isn't bitcoin's problem..." great refreshing read. found this channel there
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2014 23:15:37; mircea_popescu: godovo http://trilema.com/2014/awstats-and-stuff/ << 1mnish pages/month means even if they optimally use tor, it's still a tiny %.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell BitMarmot Judging from the hits though << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2014#791057 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah something like that.
mircea_popescu: http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/08/13/aubreystar-31811/images/full/13.jpg << fun fact : girls that walk on high heels don't tend to support themselves on the heel.
thestringpuller: legit over the wire*
thestringpuller: yea. that's what I've been looking into, do you think it's legit though?
thestringpuller: or more giving a key to a bot...
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when assigning a key to a bot, what is a good way to allow the bot to access it? is a passphrase even practical?
nubbins`: so my macbook drank a cup of coffee today
assbot: Mould Time-lapse - The Great British Year: Episode 4 Preview - BBC One - YouTube
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 listen : ident with gribble, let's walk you through this self upping thing.
mircea_popescu: ahh people's assumptions are such a great boon to internet humor. so i go on this blog and butthurt people, everyone assumes that since i speak the language i also live there, it's rioutous.
thestringpuller: time to export the private key to this machine
asciilifeform: re: electronic warfare article - the conflation between garden-variety signal jamming and 'emp' circuit zapping is inexcusable and a classic leper's bell of journalistic hacks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but i doubt that google corp. has the only copy of 'dejanews' - ask around.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how woud you go about recouping all this guy's usenet stuff ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: still got those usenet archives ? << only ever had a hand-sewn, humble archive (a la 'yarchive.net' but not as good.)
mircea_popescu: what's this, animism biology ?
BlueMeanie4: not joking - thats why theyre so strange
BlueMeanie4: well occasionally they go from being a colony to forming into a creature that gets up and moves
mircea_popescu: yes but they're not animals. they're colonies of animals. like a town.
BlueMeanie4: but thats another story
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> therealaltcoin, ThickAsThieves' scamcoin. /// it's more of a scamcoin assimiliation phenomenon!
mircea_popescu: precise, fucking dangerous mind-your-own-business law enforcer type.
BitMarmot: They're goofy, largely benign troublemaker
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I'll keep my fingers crossed then.
ThickAsThieves: <+BingoBoingo> BitMarmot> Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often << Not a bad idea //// Before you know it your website will be all "10 Wacky Interesting Things You Never Knew About Marmots"
mircea_popescu: kinda how the market was born, irl, centuries ago.
mircea_popescu: (for that matter, it's good policy / common courtest to see if i don't want to overbid in case you're considering assignment)
mircea_popescu: antonosika anyway, the last clause is there specifically to allow you to limit your risk as you can make me a settlement offer later on and who knows, i might take it.
BingoBoingo: antonosika: Sitting around here and having access to every one in the chan's input is an effect IQ boost
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I'll be happy with the outcome of this contract either way, nice to learn new things with you crazy fucks around here.
BitMarmot: No, just not giving a damn what other people think
BitMarmot: Be of no doubt, I am overawed by your approach to polemic. But I suspect I probably wouldn't get away with it
BitMarmot: so ultimately you get done what needs to get done without alienating anyone
mircea_popescu: i didn't even pick the right phrase. should have used rickles' "he's making a loss on every sale but hopes to make it up on volume"
BitMarmot: Judging from the hits though my point got across without hitting the man
antonosika: last thing, will you check the blockchain and confirm in this chat that you saw the 3.0001 BTC ?
assbot: A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared | Bingo Blog
BingoBoingo: BitMarmot: Any thoughts on http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/
mircea_popescu: (im not saying working is bad, it's not. the reason it's good however is that it allows such problems to be discussed)
BitMarmot: Something like that
mircea_popescu: heh. "your penis is too long to fit any woman, so how do you propose to reproduce ?" "not immediately, waiting for it to grow more."
mircea_popescu: i went to the hemingway school of law.
mircea_popescu: so what's the gain here ?
mircea_popescu: you may love to write, but no one loves to read.
antonosika: Thanks bingo, i just wanted this legal language verified by someone else to seem less dogy
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot here's the problem. your effort at being polite has resulted in 2+6k words, in which the idiot in question is arguing he's right.
BingoBoingo: antonosika: Well if it came from another party that would mean someone else just subsidized the Long Party's purchase
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well that's why i gave you that rota reference. nobody o.O after the attempt at a public court thing failed miserably.
antonosika: BingoBoingo: the problem is that it is possible to argue that the deposit was not from the long party ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Long Party: YOu are perfectly free to save your own copy of MP's signed contract and sign it your self.
antonosika: So why not just write " 3.00001 BTC shall be deposited no later than August 31st to ..."
mircea_popescu: yes, but also toothless. doesn't matter where it's from.
antonosika: easy to argue that it is not from the long party
mircea_popescu: yes. this is how bitcoin works.
antonosika: The formulation of the contract
mircea_popescu: according to whom ?!
antonosika: mircea_popescu: starting a contract by only seeing a random transaction in the blockchain is dodgy as hell
mircea_popescu: what changed in the past year ? nothing!
gribble: The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/>; Smash reviews The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug (very minor spoilers ...: <http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.837882-Smash-reviews-The-Hobbit-Desolation-of-Smaug-very-minor-spoilers>; BIPS, Payment Service Provider (PSP) for Merchants - (1 more message)
BlueMeanie4: this doesnt appear to bother the 18 year olds who just bought 2 grand worth of magic beans
BlueMeanie4: do you know how many of these 'celebrated' bitcoin experts have some lame background like this?
mircea_popescu: that's funny, i remember the days "anonymous" used to be an insult.
BlueMeanie4: usually a combination of the two
BlueMeanie4: or theyre entirely anonymous
mircea_popescu: just one of the many ways mpex wrote teh history of bitcoin that nobody knows about because well... history is hard work.
antonosika: ill deposit if you reformulate the contract
BlueMeanie4: the thing i always look for- they always have an alternative career
mircea_popescu: well for a coupla years there was this hot chick on the forum beating the shit out of the innumerable, meanwhile forgotten scammers.
antonosika: mircea_popescu: can someone else vouch for this ?
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 tell mpoe-pr that :D
BlueMeanie4: ya I really appreciated that article, but when you watch someone pull this sort of stuff time and time again- it's hard not to get personal
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot what are you trying to do anyway.
BitMarmot: BlueMeanie4 I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on character, but go ruthless on the facts
mircea_popescu: antonosika you gotta understand how the legal mind works. you have a beneficial presumption therein embedded.
antonosika: But this isn't specified in the contract. Only "the long holder shall deposit"
mircea_popescu: just... finance ain't one of them.
mircea_popescu: there's lines of work where honesty is the worst policy.
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 not all people, no. if people valued candor there'd be a blowout sale on penis aids.
BlueMeanie4: who has time to waste on this shit?
mircea_popescu: antonosika it'd still credit you. so they'd be suckers for doing it, but their problem.
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot but anyway, nm that part.
antonosika: the btc could come from someone else depositing at the same time.
antonosika: Im about to agree to a contract that stands if I deposit 3 btc to mircea_popescu (with the blockchain as security). Can someone tell me that this is a smart procedure?
BlueMeanie4: yes but eventually the emporer wears no clothe
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot if politeness has degraded to the point you gotta call someone talented just to remain polite i dun want any part of it.
assbot: Animaniacs - The Monkey Song - YouTube
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKY5zHILK00 << this could be the "talented bitcoiner" theme song.
BlueMeanie4: to a degree- if someone is repeatedly trying to draw attention to themselves by whoring around every buzzword and they do it repeatedly then pull a PRESALE- thats when you start questioning someone's motives
BitMarmot: I thought you might like that.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, they go into the cake.
mircea_popescu: oh get out. unless they taste like vanilla they go right into the stu.
mircea_popescu: BitMarmot that's fine, but you know if you call someone something, whether it's "talented" or "whore" or anything, i may well ask you well, how did you find this and how could i verify for myself.
BitMarmot: Even if the writings are nonsense, go after the writings, not the person who wrote them
BlueMeanie4: of course he defers that small job to someone else
BlueMeanie4: 'if this guy is going to code this then great for him'