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trinque: I don't know why people act like relational databases are cast in iron
assbot: History of T ... ( http://bit.ly/1QI3tgZ )
gabriel_laddel: one could tear out all windows crud from SBCL, and replace the C crud with some clever assembler hacks in a manner similar to what I've been told T did.
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I don't know how to read that.
trinque: "I can't query over all commits" << man I yell about wanting to query the state of everything constantly
Adlai hasn't yet recovered from elisp overdose
gabriel_laddel: if you don't you'll be fucked, because generating syntatically correct code means AST manipulations
Adlai isn't sure "harder" is the right dimension
gabriel_laddel: Why isn't all this information part of the version control toolchain? I can't query over all commits to find those that changed `some-function'..? WHAT THE FUCK IS HTTP? All I want to do is expose a procedure to a network - how is this more difficult than selecting a list of procedures which are then exposed?
gabriel_laddel: l data structures to those appropriate for the information being pushed through it? If the type information exists, shouldn't it inform auto-completion? Shouldn't I be able to query over the type signature, known return types and lambda list of all procedures?
gabriel_laddel: is not be handled automatically? Why isn't there grammer/spellchecking for my comments? If I modify a package or system definition at runtime, shouldn't I be prompted to write that change to the defining expression? Why must I optimize my programs and add type annotations? Can't test data be used to add typing annotations in an automated manner? Can't this information inform modifications of the program's fundamenta
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 17:16:36; mircea_popescu: think about it. why the fuck should the code have to know about this. and if it does have to know about this, why aren't ALL the code references affected by any of such a change cross-indexed somewhere ?
gabriel_laddel: 7. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1113989 << When I change the argument list, rename a procedure, use an unnamed reference why are the holes not marked or filled? Why must I manually declare my local variables and functions? Can't the current top level expression be searched for occurrences then factored out on a keystroke? Why must I balance strings, whatever the level of nesting or escaping? Can th ☝︎
Adlai: she can't spam faster than the speed of flood
gabriel_laddel: 3. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105913 << http://youtu.be/fJR1UFX2GVY?t=4m15s2 ☝︎
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=HeadMate | Apr 7, 2013 ... Headmate. A term thrown around mostly by people on tumblr. People who haven' t seen the sun in long enough begin to hallucinate vividly, ...
assbot: Bug 54651 – mod_remoteip ends up trusting IPs that it doesn't check ... ( http://bit.ly/1PVuV9L )
BingoBoingo: Doesn't pretty much every linux Distro try to at least pretend to the PGP signed sherezade?
BingoBoingo: So who can speak frog an write an qntra piece? https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.legalis.net%2Fspip.php%3Fpage%3Dbreves-article%26id_article%3D4580&edit-text= ☟︎
williamdunne: That way it doesn't break btcalpha.com/wot/
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Mircea has wanted oglaf on the feed though, would be nice to have it in a way that isn't me doing "/nick oglafbot"
williamdunne: so *this won't effect it*
williamdunne: He won't say anything about valid commands
asciilifeform: TomServo: it doesn't
decimation: note, transistor sizes have still shrunk, but clock rates haven't gone up
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2015 01:42:35; decimation: that once they are not in the job any more they realize they don't have nearly as many friends as they thought they did. The smarter ones do know this. And that's why so many[?] hang onto power. "
mircea_popescu: haliburton didn't even bother, just "lost" a trillion.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'What's a manager to do with a heap of stuff that isn't managed and doesn't wish to be?' 'Burn it ?' (from mircea_popescu's site) << pure gold << This is how I've been getting exercise these past couple weeks. Shovel and glyphosate + troclopyr... Actual fire comes later
asciilifeform: 'What's a manager to do with a heap of stuff that isn't managed and doesn't wish to be?' 'Burn it ?' (from mircea_popescu's site) << pure gold
mike_c: yes, it would be, but then don't I get into arguments with the europeans?
asciilifeform: decimation: no and can't see why i'd ever even want to
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wasted many hours and actually moved phuctor to that thing, and it runs. just can't be reached from anywhere outside of box per se, aha.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo and where's ferguson at these days ? i haven't heard much out of there recently.
asciilifeform: can't go far with exploded head.
asciilifeform: i can't even config a fucking apache vhost on this thing.
Adlai: trinque: arguably, it doesn't: http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_firstc.htm
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, that guy is a wimp. that kinda situation doesn't have to end so poorly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM ☟︎
asciilifeform genuinely wonders if mircea_popescu ever runs any www gadget that isn't a php bloggatron
mircea_popescu: linux doesn't work. any of it. picking some random idiocy to make an example of is futile.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well actually it wouldn't run, especially if you kill that port in firewall.
mircea_popescu: and if python.h fails, you prolly don't have th epaths set up right, it'll fai lthe same with or without some derpy package manager.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: again i don't want python serving up statics
asciilifeform: it isn't a script
mircea_popescu: except it doesn't require apache to run a script
assbot: Logged on 28-04-2015 21:09:48; cazalla: qntra/trilema down here so can't update :\
trinque: doesn't seem there is one, neh?
assbot: This Rollin' 60s Crips member says he pulled /justin_fenton to safety today during a flare up. http://t.co/UWMIkLCTV5
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's called solipsism and it ain't a world!
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> heh who with a girl hasn't? << nor me either
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform so it has no python ios the idea << it has python and even, apparently, the headers, but can't see'em
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114217 << for the record, you don't want a single head. you want a number of heads, and measurably stake-able. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: williamdunne no, but i also don't ask it to sent me to college.
mircea_popescu: like, guy going to homestead in 1800s utah. if he goes, there's going to be his homestead. if he doesn't go... there isn't going to be.
mircea_popescu: case I : causal. this satisfies both implication : with investment there NECESSARILY exists return ; without investment there NECESSARILY doesn't exist return.
mircea_popescu: while it's true that the somebody who wins might even be the guy, the fact remains that someone'd win whether the guy bought or didn't buy ticket.
ben_vulpes: heh who with a girl hasn't?
mircea_popescu: isn't man the best game ?
trinque: ^ I don't like that for the record; let every man forge his own AK
Adlai: williamdunne: the problem is that git doesn't provide human-verifiable provenance
jurov: yes, linus t. pulls changes from email, not using github
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: I don't know if this exists outside of GitHub (I rather assumed it does) but when you fork a repo so its your own version of it, you make changes to your own copy and then request that your changes are merged into the core repo
jurov: i don't remember anything about enforcing history
williamdunne still doesn't understand whats wrong with git and pgp sigs
jurov: i don't get it. "by content addressable" i understand somthing like putting sha1 sum in the URL
williamdunne: Don't even know my way around gcc properly
williamdunne: Yeah, I've not done much when it comes to native applications so anything client-side isn't really my boat
assbot: 1 results for 'not committing to it while I can't guarantee I'll execute' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=+not+committing+to+it+while+I+can%27t+guarantee+I%27ll+execute
williamdunne: !s not committing to it while I can't guarantee I'll execute
ben_vulpes: <trinque> not committing to it while I can't guarantee I'll execute << not worth it imho, leave it for someone like williamdunne
mircea_popescu: don't lose my box nao!
Adlai still doesn't understand why people are fuxing with patchy crap
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: apache won't play along with python without a plugin 'mod_wsgi' which does not appear to exist in cpanel
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't see it either, but! gotta ask.
jurov: he can publish it on trilema, too. don't see how bag of disparate patches would be useful
mircea_popescu: it wasn't going to be a patch
trinque: jurov: calm down buddy; I don't have the one true way
trinque: jurov: I cannot see how it *doesn't* solve that
trinque: and you can easily with something that isn't braindead SQL imagine a model where the canonical representation can be changed, and new views derived from the operation taken to produce the new representation
trinque: "hm I didn't like that change I made to the system" << rollback
mircea_popescu: "sorry honey, can't come to dinner, i'm apparently unable to find the entry to the brooklyn bridge today"
jurov: and i don't enjoy that, too. but such is life.
jurov: haven't i wrote somewhere that every productive day ends with patch or bugreport?
trinque: jurov: sounds like someone who doesn't deserve a loan begging with "no dude, I'll like, do anything, man!"
mircea_popescu: excelt niginx also won't work.
mircea_popescu: but let's indulge : exxon can't smoke fucking dope.
jurov: why can't you just get normal loan?
trinque: who doesn't let them
williamdunne: Yeah, don't let them sell 500% of their income
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1113823 <<< but the grocer isn't engaged in things similar to the mafioso such as robbing other businesses, so i don't see how the analogy fits.. if ya gonna throw rocks, steal beauty products and impede mr fireman's ability to put out fires by cutting hoses, why not open up on them too? ☝︎
cazalla: qntra/trilema down here so can't update :\ ☟︎
davout: ascii_field: that's what's being said, it's a good tool if ascii_field doesn't know about it :D
ascii_field: trinque: and if any of you produce a 100kB patch, and i barf on general principle and refuse to have anything more to do with project, don't say i didn't warn that vcs is harmful.
mircea_popescu: can't possibly be a problem rite ?
ascii_field: use it, so long as i don't have to know anything about it
davout: if darcs is able to output clearsigned unix patches i really don't see a reason not to use it, we can still review small individual units of work, and ascii_field's patches integrate gracefully
ascii_field: i can't pipe a branched repo to a line printer
trinque: I don't agree with "hidden" re: the state of git
trinque: doesn't make me feel smart to pluck a patch from an email attachment
ascii_field: i don't have the neutron bomb yet. so we're stuck with flamethrowers
ascii_field: but don't expect me to