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asciilifeform: diana_coman: either this, or the 'unchecked conversion' you had earlier (given that you specify a fixed size for the record, you will always end up with the given number of octets, it has no failure mode)
diana_coman: or what, just unchecked on the whole thing?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, how can I serialize the record into an array of octets? I keep thinking there's something obvious that I just don't get
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hrm, why wouldja ~have~ to use streams ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-16 13:56 diana_coman: at any rate when I get to the records I might come and whine loudly if I get stuck
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-16#1863219 -> whine! I get the record neat representation part in Ada (or so I think). Re serialization though my current understanding is that I *have to* use ...Streams; is this even correct? ☝︎
mod6: i can see that arg, asciilifeform. lobbes are you opposed to an !Xclose <auction_number> : which would accept the current highest bid? mircea_popescu, et. al. is this a good idea? ☟︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, as long as one has replacement in case it's needed...; for the other part though, there is also the in-wot thing, not like "anyone can bid"
asciilifeform: imho letting auction carry on even tho the auctioned item already left the house , is playing with fire ☟︎
diana_coman: re auction bot: the way this sort of thing worked in eulora is basically by agreement; afaik there is no untoast button (nor do I see how it would make sense really)
mod6: Not sure if cancel-toast would untoast the auction. I'd like there to be a record of the auction, so I'm fine to let it close by expiry.
mod6: asciilifeform: there is an !Xcancel, but not a close.
mod6: Also, please send me a btc addy to pay you at, will send the coins within 24 hours -- probably later today for sure.
mod6: If not, then jurov, please go ahead and send the wire to the DC ( you can use the same info from last time ). If you need the wire info again, please say so and I'll have BingoBoingo send it to you.
asciilifeform: cuz if it doesn't, the toast had better fully toast, or we're living in sin imho
asciilifeform: mod6: can't think of any ( but does the bot have an actual cancel-toast button ? )
mod6: I'm prepared to accept the bid.
auctionbot: --- end of auction list, 310mn total bids ---
mod6: I'm not sure how to close the auction prematurely. But...
mod6: jurov: sure, sounds fine to me.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i can think of 1 industrial tool that is, to a degree, 'reversible' in the thermodynamic sense, even ~after~ finger went in. the thread cutter. standard instruction , if idjit gets his finger in, is to get him to stay put while the thing is slowly put in reverse, then ends up only with heavy bruise, rather than skinned (if pulled straight out)
asciilifeform: ( 'stop' button on toaster is still a lol, thing has power cord, and i can't picture why you would want to cut the current faster than it takes to yank the cord, it ain't a saw )
asciilifeform: i dun think there even ~is~ a power tool that dun fit the 'paradigmatic enthalpic process' formulation
a111: Logged on 2018-11-08 14:46 mircea_popescu: however, you eminently can't cancel toasting, it's the paradigmatic enthalpic process, and anyone with a college education (such as, presumably, anyone involved in the production of objects, and in general in any practical portion of white civilisation) would be aware.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-08#1870189 << from that pov, 'you can't unsaw fingers' , either, yet the saw has the switch ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-08#1870187 << i personally own several machines with such buttons, they make perfect sense ☝︎
asciilifeform: jurov: can haz it again plox ? it was pretty great, i used it in all of my trb work
jurov: asciilifeform: yes dead for now, it was running on same heathenvps as the mailing list
lobbesbot: jurov: Sent 1 day, 15 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> is the http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/ident?v=makefiles dead ?
jurov: mod6: can we close the auction 10 hours early? I won't have much time tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: as per "the soldier whio thinks he'll win makes a better soldier than the soldier who thinks he'll lose -- though nobody yet walked on a battlefield and won". or w/e, replace "gambler" for "soldier" if you prefer.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's many portions of "what occurs" that occur strictly in the imagination. "healthy", for instance. this isn't fundamentally wrong -- but anthropology is specifically the scholarly delineation of these. as they're at least seemingly needed for normal functioning in most contexts, and generally adaptative, they're not readily accessible to the common intellect.
mircea_popescu: ie, i wouldn't trust george hunt to explain kawaikutl, ESPECIALLY because he washes and also speaks english./
mircea_popescu: hence my point, re "they in the culture are strictly unable of either understanding or meaningfully describing culture"
mircea_popescu: but this is not the same thing, is it ?
mircea_popescu: the "cancelling" will happen either in the imagination ("this bread doesn't really look as if it were toasted so it wasn't") or else in the imagination some other way. but in reality, toasting is irreversible.
lobbes: I've always seen it as "stop toasting" or "cease your toasting"
mircea_popescu: there is, you understand this, there is no way to cancel toasting.
mircea_popescu: lobbes turning the knob back to 0 not exactly same ?
lobbes: I guess the point is that it is redundant; pushing up on the main lever has the same effect.
mircea_popescu: however, you eminently can't cancel toasting, it's the paradigmatic enthalpic process, and anyone with a college education (such as, presumably, anyone involved in the production of objects, and in general in any practical portion of white civilisation) would be aware. ☟︎
lobbes: am I the only one who has seen/used a cancel button on a toaster before? Put toast in for $maxtime, wait until it looks/smells done, hit button and bam, perfect toast.
asciilifeform: i've seen paper shredders with reverse gear, but those at least make some kind of sense ( unjamming )
asciilifeform: 'the toaster has a cancel button on it,' << lol!!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/actual-anthropology-yet-another-minor-function-of-the-functioning-harem/ << Trilema - Actual anthropology, yet another minor function of the functioning harem.
BingoBoingo: Fox is Murdoch's though it has cucked a lot since he handed it to the kids. CNN is buffalo guy Captain Planet's weird fetish project
mircea_popescu: hey, it's trump's pussygrab farm, not murdoch's.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-october-2018-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), October 2018 Statement
BingoBoingo: And in still other post election weird, a CNN stooge touched a female whitehouse intern during an altercation and had his press credential to get into the white house revoked
BingoBoingo: In other US election weird, a KKKalifornia to permanently be off by one hour won.
mircea_popescu: you mean, by the poolside ?
asciilifeform: incidentally i'm almost surprised that toy chopper aint used as area denial weapon for actual chopper just yet
mircea_popescu: super toucano ? aaahahaha
asciilifeform: ( heat-seeking toy chopper aint exactly high science )
asciilifeform: prolly can be shot even with ukr-style toy chopper, dun even need rockets
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's still ww2 tech, even if some monkeystan somewhere is still makin'it
asciilifeform: lol, the ancient prop thing ?!
BingoBoingo: And F-35 means Brasil is going to sell the Super Tucano to the US to support the aging A-10 fleet because F-35 can't help
BingoBoingo: Upside is the Super Hornet lines in St Louis are outliving their expected life due to F-35
BingoBoingo: The day of the Lockheed versus Boeing/McDonnelDouglas trials in Saint Louis, those things dominated all 4 channels on tv all day. The Lockheed selection was only beat in local media sad by 9/11
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's brother was stuck working with ce for a while, informs that among such wretches it is pronounced : 'wince'
BingoBoingo: 's thing
BingoBoingo: I think it's on Windows CE
BingoBoingo: F-35 is just an excuse not to buy rusted MiG-9
asciilifeform: and noshit, they dun spit it out, it will buy moar f-35.
asciilifeform: sorta how the massive 'social security' tax is still collected 100%, even tho nobody with half a brain expects to see the pension thing
mircea_popescu: the point wasn't whether they take it in or not doh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to quote fresh meat, "oh, obamacare's been cancelled". they don't spiut out any more cash
mircea_popescu: bout a third of the total.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform turk did it. 3k in jail.
BingoBoingo: Not if you indict them with other judge first
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: roundin' up judges needs a stalin, not a trump
asciilifeform: ( i'm completely willing to believe that the part that actually disgorges dough to the 'customers' is off , tho have not had any occasion to try it with own hands, i dun exactly qualify )
BingoBoingo: A+++ strep throat ER visit
BingoBoingo: Because you haven't become a socio of the mutualista Española yet
asciilifeform: seems like it's similar to the 1890s telephone tax -- eternal
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you've no fucking idea what you're talking about. it's off.
mircea_popescu: for some reason arresting a third of the judges "unthinkable" in the us, even as having such a thing as "activist judges" perfectly thinkable, and totally not the same as corruption. cuz it's only corruption if it fucks over pantsuit, see, otherwise it's "activism".
asciilifeform: d00d promised to cancel obummer'care' entirely, so far not pulled off
BingoBoingo: Not to mention with blue party narrowly holding the House he is in a position to rip of the blue party's balls with cannabis legalization by pushing further on it than the dems are willing to go. Sessions has proved too... southern gentleman to help Trump sell it.
mircea_popescu: you can look on trump as a smokeless slow burn erdogan, in this context, it entirely delivers.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 17:28 mircea_popescu: he's rehauling the "obamacare" health bs. which he was fucking voted in to do. snipping all sorts of blue nonsense in the paybook, including surgery for disphorists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it does things like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1864888 just more accentuated (which practically means -- cutting http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-67.86-67.102 from "academia" support faucet, 10x the size of "social security" support faucet). ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Session is still burdened by the decision he made to recuse himself from any question touching Russia because he talked to a Russian once apparently without wearing a wire/
BingoBoingo: Consider McCain's lover Lindsey Graham went from being a shy boy to becoming Trump's biggest cheerleader after cancer won the war on McCain.
asciilifeform: 'old wing' not there anymoar?
BingoBoingo: And for that he was ineffective
BingoBoingo: Not particularly. Jeff Sessions as a pick largely served to keep the old wing of the GOP happy.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: With the Senate solidly his it removes a check on Trump's ability to act without constraint.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: remind me what this does ?
BingoBoingo: In other lulz of the day, trump crushed the mixed post election headlines by calling in Jeff Session's undated resignation letter
mod6: Ah, thanks for the updated notes file, Sir.
asciilifeform: i suppose in the field, under fire, folx still talk into boxes
asciilifeform: even the 'must talk from toilet' folx send 'text' nao, i thought
asciilifeform: why yakyak into microphone if ya dun have to ? so that room bug can hear ?
asciilifeform: it aint even as if sending text over a wire were new! fucking 1850s tech!
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 15:54 asciilifeform: the problem faced by even fella with a first-class head, when buying 'crypto iron', is a 9000x hypertrophied instance of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867790 boojum -- to know what he's getting, he is stuck with much ~harder~ problem than even original maker had in making the artifact to begin with !
a111: Logged on 2018-11-07 18:08 mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-07#1870044 << that being said, afaik there simply does not exist a non-tard product in that niche ☝︎
asciilifeform: gotta have the pnoje, neh. how else to view lolcat 5 times daily, like praying to mecca