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ascii_field: but answer is no, it wasn't a proper beta account, it was a one-off demo that dissolved in ~month
ascii_field: it wasn't an early beta, it was a demo just for me
ben_vulpes: i don't feel like loading the MPEx api into my head today.
jurov: mp is the only one to qualify being on mpex, didn't you know?
mircea_popescu: i don't happen to care who your daddy is.
mircea_popescu: if you can upgrade your key for free, you don't have to pay mpex, you can just find someone with a key they don't want to use anymore and they can "upgrade" theirs to yours. ☟︎
ascii_field: they cannot be undiscovered, yes. and don't have a baked-in temporal peg
mircea_popescu: you can't un-discover some integers in a certan mathematical relation.
mircea_popescu: there are some things that don't need fixing. what needs fixing re gpg is to use rsa throughout, rather than the current lulzatron.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field makes keys too big, doesn't actually offer anything other than the equivalent "at key promulgation, use it to sing a list of nonces, with understanding that statements w/io the nonce are void", let wot enforce this.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132108 << because it doesn't update keys. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: owner 2 can always repudiate future signatures on the grounds that "it wasn't really me"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i don't propose how. i propose what.
ascii_field: decimation: no, and can't imagine why i'd care
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132066 << it was addressed. derps aren't here. ☝︎
davout: yup, wasn't sure of whether *proxies* updated keys as opposed to the engine, but i guess that yes, it's pretty plainly written
ascii_field: (the other thing is, he didn't forbid upgrading keys - simply happens to charge 30 btc for the service)
davout: hmm, if it doesn't update keys you can start with a non expiring one and add the expiration date after opening your acct
davout: mpex either speaks GPG or it doesn't
jurov: you usually don't know in advance when a key needs to expire or get invalidated
davout: also if the transfer procedure is specified in the initial contract that shouldn't be a problem
mod6: <+jurov> can't we just use namecoin? << yeah, I thought maybe this was addressed in the logs before...
jurov: can't we just use namecoin?
ben_vulpes: "you wouldn't share a key!" (tm)
mod6: In this case, wouldn't you just be called "Juraj Variny (jurov) <rini17@gmail.com>"
jurov: i don't remember any concrete proposal
danielpbarron: isn't that the goal in here eventually?
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 06:15:47; mircea_popescu: davout btw, isn't your paymiumthing an exchange ?
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 01:37:03; mircea_popescu: danielpbarron and since we're doing future references : you don't want a 20% of empty sky and cut calves.
mircea_popescu: i can't be arsed. they're too poor and too retarded.
cazalla: the shit is so pervasive that you can't find his originals half the time lol
mircea_popescu: davout btw, isn't your paymiumthing an exchange ? ☟︎
trinque: "I don't think you can raid b-a anon" << lol!
trinque: see that's why you don't do it in C
mircea_popescu: decimation you don't understand how teh world works!
copypaste: They don't allow HTTP content on HTTPS pages anymore.
copypaste: one guy said it didn't work
cazalla: gee that didn't take long for people to accuse copypaste of being mircea_popescu
cazalla: guy didn't get sacked either
decimation: it's possible someone is using infrastructure for a private purpose, but I can't imagine it is officially sanctioned
mircea_popescu: maybe because bitcoin doesn't run right on windows, who knows.
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 22:19:52; danielpbarron: i don't have a problem with USG getting 1/3 of all the bitcoin; the can only spend it once
trinque: mircea_popescu: selection thing isn't working, last paragraph?
mod6: this is bizzare. i can only get the ssh keys to work /after/ I set a password on the user acount on the instnace (in /etc/shadow). if the user doesn't have a password set, just asks for a pw when connecting. (gentoo uclibc hardened) am i missing something obvious?
menahem: i don't know whats up - but links to selections aren't working for me. they were at first, but not anymore.
mircea_popescu: and i'm not entirely sure the meta-universe is open to you at all. there isn't any space for you to "Act upon" in this enlightened, gender savvy, "i am an actor in a movie and i read the script" sense.
assbot: Why "representative democracy" doesn't work and doesn't make sense on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1e2CTQT )
mircea_popescu: "you can't halfass bitcoin" is the thing. which property is why i was musing that it's more like a force of nature than anything else.
mircea_popescu: trinque essentially, an application of "bitcoin is bitcoin" is what sunk gavin. they still mostly can't believe it happened, but it did. it will again. in practice, you either implement a broken, pared down version of bitcoin, in which case bitcoin defeats you, or else you implement a correct version, in which case... you've implemented bitcoin.
copypaste: I didn't notice the different URL, sorry ;)
mircea_popescu: sure. but won't it bitch cause the img is http ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-05-2015#1131059 << except he already presumes it's not even useful. 490 lines of verilog don't allow for much remote diddle. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you gotta appreciate, the usg is not the only one mining, nor has it been. at this point, the deployment you contemplate might allow it to catch up, but won't do much more than that.
mircea_popescu: but i can swear it won't be malicious, fwiw.
mircea_popescu: i don't, because i don't use pki.
copypaste: It won't work with the iframe method. I would need the source code of that file and run it on 8chan's server
copypaste: mircea_popescu: No, but most browsers won't allow HTTP in HTTPS pages.
mircea_popescu: copypaste uh it shouldn't have https at all ? my references are all to http
copypaste: it won't work correectly because most of our requests are served over HTTPS
asciilifeform: ^ i think jurov was speaking of 'tv-style' interface where schmuck is not aware that he is using the net, doesn't sit around hunting for warez, etc. but just sits with ir remote & drools
mircea_popescu: but i didn't take it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-05-2015#1130961 << i have internet here, no magic box. had it in romania too, they offered me the magic box. i didn't want it , the woman was in shock ☝︎
asciilifeform: if cable boxes, won't sit on public net
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Yeah they don't trigger it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it won't be busting any markets. because 'how world works' (TM)
asciilifeform: it isn't the most optimal in the world (far from it) and a 'serious', 'grown man's' miner oughta be designed at discrete logic level
asciilifeform wasn't there, doesn't know at which in particular
mircea_popescu: they can't produce anything at "one of the fabs"
cazalla: doesn't seem anyone wants to bang #3
mircea_popescu: the human body has some permissible cuts, and the calves aren't it. if you don't cut the neck, the next is the torso, between lower rib and belly button, and if you don't cut that you don't cut anything.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron and since we're doing future references : you don't want a 20% of empty sky and cut calves. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mxtm: Not really. only encoded with 4 letter character set. T, C, A, G
BingoBoingo: Nah, station wagons has always been the premier unit of data transfer and what is money, but data on who doesn't suck
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima add more etc, but doesn't need to bother you.
williamdunne: seraminta: Bitcoin isn't free money
danielpbarron: maxwell, didn't you register a key under the nickname mxtm?
trinque: I don't buy that either
trinque: I mean this assumes whatever sub-groups within the thing haven't been mining on their botnets for years
asciilifeform: these folks fill the holy trifecta of 1) won't notice 2) if notices, won't care 3) if cares, impotent to do anything
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they didn't do their homework at all. they're a very easy target for the "eco" lobby, and will be murdered as they can't afford to pay those leeches.
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2015 19:27:50; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2015#1050103 << don't be ridiculous. for one thing, commodizing asic mining is a larger task than commodizing cpu arch. for the other, they're a fucking sv corp, they're not going to DO ANYTHING. just sit around and talk about shit. preferably at "conferences", or else "liveblog" it.
pete_dushenski: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-watch-basically-hacker-proof-202725548.html << lulz. article goes on to mention all the ways apple watch isn't and couldn't be 'hacker proof'
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm i guess my hypothesis is that usg won't claim enough of remaining unmined btc to throw a wrench in the individual sovereignty of those in #b-a.
asciilifeform: l0l, au doesn't xray at customs or post office ?
mircea_popescu: well, the romanians needed a peace that didn't consist of rape.
mircea_popescu: it's not like, oh, i need something from him. i don't. he needs shit from me, in the future, and he won't get it, and the reason is exactly right here.
asciilifeform: he certainly doesn't write it
asciilifeform: i bet he doesn't even read it today
mircea_popescu: does usg-effective mean "bitcoin needs a decision making process which a) doesn't include mp as we've been pretending was the case all along and b) overrepresents us, as we've idem" ?
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 20:54:52; kakobrekla: i don't see a reason why not.
asciilifeform: jurov: grid isn't pegged. not by a long shot. think of the whole affair as usg imposing a (comparatively, tiny) tax on its subjects with which to buy hash.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i don't work with 'oh noez', but i like testable hypotheses
trinque: I don't buy it for a second.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: who leads ? i dunno. doesn't israel have some chip fab facilities ? other than that, china.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: doublespend isn't 'fiatization' ?
danielpbarron: 51% attack is the most credible threat, and even then they can't FIATize bitcoin (they can't break the rules)
pete_dushenski: except "better late than never" isn't in this case.
pete_dushenski: all i know is that '21 inc' sure as fuck isn't disrupting my sleep ad libitum.
danielpbarron: i don't have a problem with USG getting 1/3 of all the bitcoin; the can only spend it once ☟︎
danielpbarron: i thought the point of that essay was that bitcoin is the grand exception -- the cake that can't be taken