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cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol,
that's interesting
pete_dushenski: ;;later
tell pankkake i'm getting
the following error running your node.sh script: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: udev : Breaks: plymouth (< 0.9.0-7) but 0.8.5.1-5 is
to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks,
this may be caused by held packages." << please
to help!
RagnarDanneskjol: I met caleb chen from ccn last weekend - seems like a nice kid and is fully cognizant of his site's derpidity - people are still eating it up, so he's all 'fuck it' - no incentive
to do otherwise (besides lost dignity). apparently
they have like 40 part-time writers 'on-staff'
mircea_popescu: i
thought
that guy was in here but apparently gribble never saw it
mircea_popescu: well, luckily you're not a codger, so who knows what
the future brings.
mircea_popescu: "Perl will be gone soon,
too.
That's because a new language called Ruby has finally been
translated into English."
mircea_popescu: turns out
that C/C++ are sorta like me. keep being "in
the process of" being superseeded periodically,
then
the would-be revolutionizer dies.
mircea_popescu: se Microsoft was able
to stall it before it became ubiquitous on
the desktop. But for server-side applications, C++ is basically on its way out."
mircea_popescu: "Every 15 years or so, languages are replaced with better ones. C was replaced by C++, at least for large-scale application development by people who needed performance but desperately wanted data
types
too. C++ is being replaced by Java, and Java will doubtless be replaced with something better in seven years — well, seven years after it finishes replacing C++, which evidently hasn't fully happened yet, mostly becau
pete_dushenski: man
the recent comments on
this
theme are fugly. all
title and no
text. wtf.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd rather sit in a hazmat suit and read good prose
than live in a meadow of paper.
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pete_dushenski: also
the gap between brk-a and btc narrowed by, what, 5%
today?
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pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu:
ty for another comment!
that post deserves a plaque for
the names it's attracted.
pete_dushenski: at least most people have
their clothes and
the groceries in
their fridges
mircea_popescu: "these are my children" ? "this is my house". most property owners don't own
their own
torens
title bureaus
mircea_popescu: "To soften my comment, I would not want
to replace Gavin with some loony
that
thinks
the USG is competent enough
to undermine bitcoin in any organized way. All
this
talk about Mike and Gavin being stooges is absurd, and undermines my respect for much of
the other (very insightful) stuff you guys write on
the Internet.
They can be wrong, without being corrupt."
mircea_popescu: (there's an extra bit in
there, where people with a lot of exposure, financial, intellectual, emotional, w/e also run full nodes - but generally
they also won't be following patently insane notions a la "let's make
the blocks infinite")
mircea_popescu: this is
the ad-hoc, market driven fix
to
the problem of node disenfranchisement as ordained by his satoshiness.
mircea_popescu: "It doesn’t matter what
the minors feel like “honoring.”
The miners will follow
the full nodes;
they won’t waste energy mining
the fork when its coins aren’t worth
the
time it
takes
to send
them
to an exchange." danielpbarron << all
the miners run (multiple) full nodes.
pete_dushenski: ok. 5 recent comments added below
the recent articles.
pete_dushenski: thankfully, i had made a back-up but i was pretty choked for a minute cuz
the auto-save didn't include
that last article about gavin's retardation
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol funny you should mention
that… i was
toying around with
that
this morning,
trying
to add a second sidebar column a la
trilema and… i fucking borkt
the whole
thing.
mircea_popescu: fucking hell romania is going
to end up accidentally famous by mistake.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu you are now
the bearer of "the romanian school"
torch!
pete_dushenski: chains, and all
the other ways
that BTC can grow in real
transaction volume?"
pete_dushenski: "Gavin has done quite a lot for
the bitcoin project, and is one of
the few people who can credibly represent it
to lay people. Still, I agree with
the Romanian school inasmuch as
the blockchain increase seems unnecessary and potentially disastrous
to me. It’s inviting a fork
that will not be honored by a large portion of
the current hash power, and
the current wallet balance.
Thus it is a Bad Idea. What about side
pete_dushenski: hmm. let me see if i can dig up a quote or
two worth repeating...
mircea_popescu: "Perl has
the best marketing in
the world. You could write a book about how brilliant
their marketing is. Sun has marketed Java with money, and Perl is almost keeping up, popularity-wise, purely on
the on sheer marketing brilliance of Larry Wall and his buddies. Folks at Harvard Business School should study Perl's marketing. It's astonishing."
mod6: saw a lot of action on your blog about
that
topic btcpete
pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: surprised
they didn't make a pitch
to increase
the blocksize limit << lol
mircea_popescu: after
they're done with congress. "all laws fit in 500 pages. you want new ones ? delete old ones."
mircea_popescu: the only conceivable purpose i can see for government would be
to allocate limits. you want
to write a facebook ? register with govt, get a 10k line/250kb limit. if you overrun it you get shot.
☟︎ mod6: and you're right, 50m lines of code?
that does what!!?
mod6: haha, staggers
the imagination
mircea_popescu: at least. fifty idiots get
to go around
telling young women about
their imminent promotion
to higher-middle manager because of it
mircea_popescu: mod6 no, it's "an economy". imagine,
that's
the bread of what, 500 derps ?
mod6: lol 8m additional lines per q!?
that's just nuts
mircea_popescu: in other words, back
to
the
topic : i
think
the people arguing
that c is just
the way
to
talk
to
the c-machine, aka von neumann machine have it wrong - c is just
the way average people abstract. fortunately
that fit into an already existing machine, but if it hadn't it'd have been forcibly fit anyway.
gabriel_laddel: I don't understand what you're getting at. (emacs) Lisp still has
to store
things in files.
mircea_popescu: admire
the pile of crap
that
the whole software involved is.
mircea_popescu: ah but
this is only half
the story. you also saved it
there, and saved
the "notes" string somewhere etc.
gabriel_laddel: Lisp
thing. Emacs gave it
to me in.... less
than 3 seconds.
mircea_popescu: no. i mean
the fact
that you have a string stored, and an apparatus
to retrieve and use it in place.
mircea_popescu: now is
this kinda like c or kinda like lisp, you'd say ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: Funny little bit of history. Steve Y. goes on and on and on about how C++, java, etc. (algol derivatives) predictably create massively bloated codebases, gives lip service how Lisp solves
these problems (which is does) and
then goes back
to... writing in ~ALGOL. (I asked a Googler who was recently on
the same
team as Steve what language
they worked in - Java.)
mircea_popescu: seriously, 50mn lines of code ?
there's no need
to write 50 mn lines of code. for anything.
mircea_popescu: We have 50 million lines of C++ code. No, it's more
than
that now. I don't know what it is anymore. It was 50 million last Christmas, nine months ago, and was expanding at 8 million lines a quarter.
The expansion rate was increasing as well. Ouch."
mircea_popescu: like
the plant in Little Shop of Horrors. Feeeeeed meeeeeee...
mircea_popescu: "The biggest
thing you can write in C++ is... also an operating system. Well, maybe a little bigger. Let's say
three
times bigger. Or even
ten
times. But operating system kernels are at most, what, maybe a million lines of code? So I'd argue
the biggest system you can reasonably write in C++ is maybe 10 million lines, and
then it starts
to break down and become
this emergent
thing
that you have no hope of controlling,
Jezzz: thx
thestringpuller
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