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mircea_popescu: how much are ~5k zombie ips worth ? what's the current market value of a wordpress list like whatever, 100k or i didn't bother counting the new one yet ?
asciilifeform: i.e., the chumpers need to be busied somehow
asciilifeform: worth his time << chumpnet is like a truck - most of the cost of ownership, assuming you own it, is a fixed cost
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> over a ludicrously expensive plasma tv, the owner of the firm gravely proclaimed that the robot (nominally a sapperbot) shall be fitted with a rifle. << Wait employees hadn't machines so armed already?
mircea_popescu: there, that's a value of qntra approach.
mircea_popescu: how much would it cost you to replicate this ?
asciilifeform: and that anyone who takes issue with this, should resign then.
mircea_popescu: jurov: FTFY: build enough audience and capital to buy ukraine <<< here's a simple calculation : someone somewhere judges it worth his time to try to attack qntra for like what, a day ?
asciilifeform: over a ludicrously expensive plasma tv, the owner of the firm gravely proclaimed that the robot (nominally a sapperbot) shall be fitted with a rifle.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: your reply to 'instazap' - as a young man, i had the 'fortune' to work in one of those small scamatronics firms scattered around wash.dc. they made (well, collected money from usg to make, supposedly) small robots.
ben_vulpes is now gagging for time to read the logs
mircea_popescu: or else this thing's dead.
mircea_popescu: and now i got you in the corner. either you argue with the libtards that c. maxwell is not a novel result, tho his work is
mircea_popescu: im talking of the guy's dad, see.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> kick everyone's ass on quality without worrying about making money << gawker was never great, but this is how they killed huffpo
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i wasn't intending to (with what, ha.) just ringing the bell to possibly wake up folks who think they can achieve a new result by doing the same thing as was done for 100 years. <<< you know, the clerk maxwell guy, arguably a novel result, WAS in fact achieved by doing the exact same thing men have been doing to women for a hundred years.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ATM this inspires me to wonder about... the classic railgun. If the projectile is already a strong magnet...
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> yeah, but then i noticed there's actually two, and they're pretty close. /// of course, second bidder has something to work with
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: once q transforms into the kind of thing which is presently lucrative, it will cease to be distinguishable from the despised competition. << the idea is to transform things around it.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: ethics schmethics. newspapers have been funded by ads from forever <<< yeah but i find the entire goldline glenn beck thing pretty objectionable.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you can see those work on youtube. ersatz weapon, you don't want it (unless no choice.)
BingoBoingo: Instead of traditional percussion caps
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: i think it can be nothing more <<< yeah, but then i noticed there's actually two, and they're pretty close.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The last one, new rifles are sold in us on essentially the same principle. "Inline" muzzle loaders that use shotgun primers.
mircea_popescu: devthedev: Bitcointalk: "Due to a recently-discovered flaw in the TLS and SSL protocols, you may want to change your password, especially if you accessed the forum using Tor." <<< what, tor isn't safe ? incredibru.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So far the rennovated mosin is my favorite
mircea_popescu: incidentally : if any reader feels like building a botnet / expanding his botnet, you can probably hit the earlier linked list of ips. if you're carefgul going in you can probably blame whatever mischief on the original derp, too.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: By this time next month Amtrack business will be booming. US air travel is on its way out. <<< can only go where there's track.
mircea_popescu: Freen0deAdmin: why do some names have a color next to them? ThickAsThieves: because racism << ok i lolled. because colonialism.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://www.esquireyearone.com.ua/post/36 << you might have to googletrans, but possibly of interest to you
asciilifeform: you'll need woodchippers for the beggars though.
mircea_popescu: then beggar can talk to king dracula any time he wants.
asciilifeform is quite in favour of this
mircea_popescu: so you kill them and then hang the alchemists by their guts.
asciilifeform: because the alchemists have learned to manufacture armies of beggars which carry on mischief as programmed.
asciilifeform: not that i am in love with this paradigm, but not sure that you can construct a genuinely viable net where beggar can talk to king directly.
mircea_popescu: the solution, as practiced in history, was to teach the drunks restraint.
mircea_popescu: sure, and at a bunch of unintentional other mishaps at that.
asciilifeform: it does succeed at preventing drunken beggars from ddosing the king, if nothing else
mircea_popescu: suppose you, unknown stranger of razi level, have a q. takes you three years and a dozen idiotic answers ?
mircea_popescu: you happy with that ?
mircea_popescu: this is exactly how the us legal system works
asciilifeform: hence not the same animal
mircea_popescu: this is fine, but if you actually calculate the computational load you'll get more than the current star model
asciilifeform: finally master may condescend to answer if no apprentice knew.
asciilifeform: and if no one there knows, n-1st
asciilifeform: he has to ask the nth circle
asciilifeform: if a n00b wants to learn, he can't ask razi
jurov: for documents you can use CDN and whatnot. problem is if they want to call your code
asciilifeform: consider ancient scholars like the persian Razi. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: you're never going to escape the fact that a 3 person sitcom crew can fuck three different ways whereas a 4 person crew can fuck in 6 ways
asciilifeform: if random-derp wants a document from you, he should really be reduced to grabbing it (and, naturally, you signed it) from someone closer in wot-space to you
mircea_popescu: so yes, avoidance is the name of the game. nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: anymore than bitcoin can be "solved".
mircea_popescu: granted, this is not a problem that can actually be solved
mircea_popescu: what you described is hoiw to keep the network small
mircea_popescu: but it's not a network in this sense.
asciilifeform: i described earlier a hypothetical network that silently refuses to rout ddos.
mircea_popescu: ddos is an intrinsic property of the world, like bitcoin, like falling to your death, like the nuclear bomb
mircea_popescu: same thing here : the more people you add, the exponentially more potential connections in the graph.
mircea_popescu: same thing with 3d geometric applications
mircea_popescu: nah, consider gravity. your potential energy increases with your height, but your speed of ultimate impact with the square of the height.
asciilifeform: ddos is a basic attribute of any system where strangers can impose a cost on you at little to no cost to themselves.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: but the fact of ddos still being a thing at all, reveals catastrophically broken design at large. << not really, it just reflects a major problem of the world at large (the quare-linear problem, specifically)
mircea_popescu: (this, of course, excludes the wordpress stuff, which is about 90% or so of the entire thing, but also easy to filter)
mircea_popescu: bout twice as many today. hopefully 3x tomorrow!
ThickAsThieves: thus the bash wars of 2014 began
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ThickAsThieves: if i were on lsd all the time, how would i know i was on lsd?
BingoBoingo: !up teek
nubbins`: i can't speak for the others...
nubbins`: will the articles be edited, or posted as submitted?
jurov: soon it will be the ultimate turing test
mike_c: just drink the fucking kool-aid already
ThickAsThieves: i want all the good words i can get tho
ThickAsThieves: i dont want too many words
mike_c: 1) you need to be decently wot'd to contribute. 2) if you submit shit, you won't get in.
nubbins`: like, quadruple the word count
asciilifeform: is the whole thing an elaborate joke that i'm not in on?
nubbins`: i'm going to write an amazing article and pad the fuck out of it
asciilifeform: which they will proceed to write in 'intercal' ?
nubbins`: and their delectable wares!
ThickAsThieves: infinite on an indeterminable segment of time
nubbins` prepares an article about the grocers
asciilifeform: so, perhaps i'm thick
nubbins`: wait, two shares per word.
asciilifeform: and in people i know to be clever!
mike_c: geezus. There are no infinite shares.
asciilifeform: even if i'm not the target-anything
asciilifeform: am i the only one bothered by this?
nubbins`: i know i'd certainly buy shares in a website in order to read one of its articles
asciilifeform: infinite shares with no plausible picture of how they are to be worth something
jurov: ThickAsThieves: how to burn shares on mpex? push to nonextant address?
asciilifeform: not certain how an amoebic pseudopod wins by emulating the organs of, e.g, mouse.
ThickAsThieves: make people buy shares to read, then burn the shares when they do
mike_c: the old crown. imagine how valuable an organ of the new crown will be.
asciilifeform: aka tbtf.
asciilifeform: mike_c: wsj, like nyt et al is an organ of the crown.
mike_c: WSJ makes a billion or two a year.