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mircea_popescu: i can sort-of decrypt the deadpan rhetorical overstatement to the point of absurdity device you practice about 2/3 of the time or so. but i'm a fucking trained decoder and honestly i dunno if there's another alive.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here';s the thing : i didn't get that impression from what you were saying. and the substance of a scam is when the reader doesn't get that impression from the copy. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i keep having the thought that we had this thread already, in the past..

asciilifeform: but to date i have not even succeeded in building clang ! despite trying a number of times, because the lattice fpga thing needs it

asciilifeform: lulzily, i am not averse to experimenting with heathen whatevers, i even have an isolated leprosorium for infected winblowz.

mircea_popescu: i had no idea anyone was even contemplationg that.

asciilifeform: i will not be 'adopting' and maintaining it and its deps, and so far no one has stepped up to the job

mircea_popescu: speed was the point in discussion, not all i want.

mircea_popescu: it's not a tenable position. even if laughter was not in aristotle. because, again, and i mean this most literally, the smell of sv is the smell of cunt.

mircea_popescu: it's not a tenable position. even if laughter was in aristotle. because, again, and i mean this most literally, the smell of cv is the smell of cunt.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> sina i confess i don't get it. free mattress ? << disease vector metaphor

asciilifeform: it gets a dedicated physical console here, and almost every week i gotta restart it by hand, see wtf , why is db gummed up etc

mircea_popescu: lol i was thinking, "original author hates lisp for some reason" but then i passed for it being too cruel

asciilifeform: it is the most laboriously dysfunctional proggy i had ever written, it is my albatross

phf: phuctor still in python i take it?

phf: well, i agree that particular choice signifies

asciilifeform: i.e. introduction of genderfuckery crapolade into tmsr infrastructure

phf: asciilifeform: maybe if someone inwot were to build one, i'd consider it, at least

phf: oh flag, lets you pass this stuff as a command line argument.. i guess this approach works too. i'm not sure why i can't just do message = string(dat) but i'm too lazy to figure it out ☟︎

phf: but i'm trying to reproduce "single threaded mpfhf-golang can provide a 32-bit mpfhf hash of GPLv2 in ~7m" on my machine

phf: asciilifeform: i don't know how to go

phf: is something supposed to happen when i later tell?

mircea_popescu: sina i confess i don't get it. free mattress ?

sina: best twitter quote I saw today: "US is free as in mattress"

a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 14:09 phf: fhf implementation http://paste.lisp.org/display/350018, this one just races against ben_vulpes's, i'll see if i can beat go version once i get to building go environment..

mircea_popescu: ok i fucking got it!

asciilifeform: phf: i did not say 'shame' lel

phf: asciilifeform: there's different kinds of optimizations. you can nail down the types and get a complete type signature of your code. i don't think there's any shame in it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i admit , i half-expected to have mircea_popescu pull the noncycling proof out of his hat, 'aha, someone finally thought to ask..'

asciilifeform: phf: i can see argument for 100% unoptimized 'potato'. but if yer gonna optimize, may as well do it properly neh

phf: i threw in a handful of type declarations (which eliminated generic-+ calls), but that as expected shaved less than half a second

BingoBoingo: Hey, I labeled it fanfic

asciilifeform: not necessarily cycle tho. if i can construct a 'for (i=0; i<maxint; i++) {}' then just as good

a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 14:52 phf: but i use it to refer to intentionally or unintentionally naive code. like the kind of stuff you would write in BASIC.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-04#1679079 << i thought samagon was made out of chicken feathers not potatoes. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-04#1679072 << this i'd like to see ☝︎

mircea_popescu: anyway, it is logical to have the error permanent "what it is", and the self-reference tensed "i was". rather than pretend the error has no further substance than its past occurence, whereas the id is eternal and so therefore is.

mircea_popescu: this is a very fine example, incidentally. it's in my mind right there with the oxford comma ("i had eggs, salmon and biscuits" interpreted as the speaker telling salmon and biscuits as an item that he had eggs) as anglo-antilogic in my head.

mircea_popescu: phf what it was that i consistently ; not what it is that i consistently was :D

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-04#1679049 awww i was waiting for that. ☝︎

phf: in fact http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-09#1623811 :/ i was trying to remember recently but failed what it is that i was consistently using wrong ☝︎

mircea_popescu: yes this is a choice i've made repeatedly and threaten to keep making. it also happens to be fundamental to republican vs you know, imperial outlook.

mircea_popescu: jurov nasdaq solution to bitbet problem is to take kako out and shoot him. that i'm a civilised fellow is not something you can oppose to me.

a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 14:15 phf: part of spec as far as i understand it, that the (fhf mp ...) part is a canonical, but not the only implementation. so yeah you could write optimal version of mp's fhf, but it's not going to speak the same dictionary, and you won't be necessarily able to apply same optimizations to other (fhf ...). (or i guess you can, but require more cleverness than just etc.)

mircea_popescu: i am surrounded by looseleaf to the degree girl walked in said "you remind me a lot of mr happy" "whassat ?" "pet hamster i had when i was 5"

mircea_popescu: i did not prove ;/

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: picture 'i'd luvvv to verify this tx, but gotta buy some ram, and for 3rd time this week'

mircea_popescu: phf whereas is not where's, etymologically or otherwise. i dunno if you know that.

phf: but i use it to refer to intentionally or unintentionally naive code. like the kind of stuff you would write in BASIC. ☟︎

phf: i wouldn't use it in my own code, but there are occasional cases where it "makes sense", particularly when you're writing potato code

phf: i wouldn't call it bitter, at least he didn't think of if* proponents as complete retards.

asciilifeform: unrelatedly, i still have not thought of a proof that mphash terminates on all inputs.

asciilifeform: btw this proggy is nostalgiatronic in that i nao return in my head to ye olde naggumwank over 'if*'

phf: man, dusseldorf airport soundtrack is like the best of the 90s that nobody listens to anymore, but used to back in the day. like they are playing bryan adams's "i do it for you" which i remember serenading to some girl. makes me heart tingle it does.

phf: i mean, there's a bunch of macros that share state through referencing same symbols. if i were to post this to #lisp they would lynch me

phf: part of spec as far as i understand it, that the (fhf mp ...) part is a canonical, but not the only implementation. so yeah you could write optimal version of mp's fhf, but it's not going to speak the same dictionary, and you won't be necessarily able to apply same optimizations to other (fhf ...). (or i guess you can, but require more cleverness than just etc.) ☟︎

phf: yeah, this version is straight spec implementation (in fact if you search for (fhf mp ...) that part should directly correspond to spec wording). only optimization i did was to keep the S reallocations down

asciilifeform: phf: there's a couple of order-of-magnitude imho obvious optimizations, but i dun wanna ruin the fun

phf: fhf implementation http://paste.lisp.org/display/350018, this one just races against ben_vulpes's, i'll see if i can beat go version once i get to building go environment.. ☟︎☟︎

phf: yeah, it would've been neat if people carefully improved existing quality system instead of modernizing, alas. i hear wayland also works!!1

phf: i'm pretty sure biggest overhead is in using adjustable arrays, because you lose out on using sbit instead of bit. sbit expects (simple-array bit (*)) and apart from doing basic type check it has very little overhead.

phf: ben_vulpes: i'm pretty sure your type annotations are doing nothing useful. cursory look i think only fixnum stuff is taking effect, but that's such a small overhead

phf: i wrote a hilariously bad common lisp version of fhf

shinohai: !~later tell hanbot Ah sorry I missed your message, I was out at that time cojunto-ing with local girls. ;)

ben_vulpes: not i

mircea_popescu: depends how it's implemented, i guess.

mircea_popescu: notice that no one goes to the hospital with a "i came here so you make me healthy" contract.

asciilifeform: i'm moar curious re what 'good reason' even looks like

mircea_popescu: i don't even specifically remember, was years ago. but im sure there was a good reason.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-04#1678932 all i have to say is http://trilema.com/2013/why-mpex-is-better-than-fiat-institutions-part-349085 ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( re fredericus et al : i had nfi how many of these d00d had !! e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Nwsqy6v_Q is new to asciilifeform )

asciilifeform: i did wonder, why not something better.

a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 03:05 asciilifeform: eventually provocation will work, trump will 'clintonize', i.e. connect himself with something 'uncontroversially' impeachable.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect that the number of rules by which 'pantsuit' crowd continues to play, such that they can lose, will grow smaller.

phf: asciilifeform: i periodically come back from the woods and marvel at the going ons

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> eventually provocation will work, trump will 'clintonize', i.e. connect himself with something 'uncontroversially' impeachable. << There's a deadline for provocation to work. 2018 mid term elections

asciilifeform: eventually provocation will work, trump will 'clintonize', i.e. connect himself with something 'uncontroversially' impeachable. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i had this , handmade and orcish, using sageprobe . but it took ~2h per bringup...

asciilifeform: anyway for n00bz : a two-hole ram stick will give you snapshots of physical memory, incl. 'prohibited' (i.e. SMM) pages, undetectably to ring-whatever soft. and likewise write - gives you much of what debug probe gives, with the difference that cpu could not refuse

asciilifeform: ( re pc vivisection : one item on asciilifeform's wish list, that does not currently exist : a doctored stick of sdram that can be read/written 'out of band', i.e. via another hole )

mircea_popescu: i'm half tempted to yank the mains just to humor him

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i saidf, too many movies

mircea_popescu: i was expecting to hear alcohol burner lol

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-03#1678798 << funnily enough i always found the ~gas~ to have the superior control ☝︎

ben_vulpes: just spring for the walk-in, i guess.

ben_vulpes: odds that i'll ever buy a fancy brand new stove are pretty low anyways

ben_vulpes: you know i was just thinking about wiring pids into my electrical unit for precision control!

ben_vulpes: i always figured the electrical stove was just another shitanium knockoff of The Real Thing; in what ways is it so much better than gas?

mircea_popescu: as i understad, we have it exactly.

asciilifeform: whereas as i understand it, we do not have this.

mircea_popescu: i'm not 100% on it, but my own napkins seem to indicate.

asciilifeform: i'ma have to try this on paper.

mircea_popescu: i'd guess 1.5x the time it took to make it.

asciilifeform: i dun see how this is to work

mircea_popescu: the idea was that you need them together. maybe concat, i guess.

asciilifeform: i assumed '+' above meant concatenation.

mircea_popescu: i'm sorry ?

mircea_popescu: am i missing something here ?

a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 01:10 asciilifeform: say i want to encipher (dun matter with what) a string, 'To: mircea_popescu Subj: thermonuke launch codes ...'