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BingoBoingo: The ones who do realize may have the wrong reaction (build a bunker, stockpile canned goods) but they exist on the Trump voting part of the US-sorting
mircea_popescu goes to dig out that article, it was a riot.
mircea_popescu: that's why if you have boys it's always a great idea to have two. the first fucking up comes with an almost certainty the 2nd will come out alright.
mircea_popescu: just think that somehow "race" is a legitimate topic of conversation in a country undergoing full economic collapse where black people are 12% by headcount and 5% if that by capital.
a111: Logged on 2014-03-19 19:04 asciilifeform: and, finally, his moment arrived! von Kármán surrendered his orange ticket, took a deep breath, and said, "God, explain turbulence." Theodore von Kármán spent the rest of eternity burning in Hell.'
mircea_popescu: in any case - i can't calculate drag from human body either, nor can anyone else. there's a reason for both http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-19#567906 and wind tunnels irl : it's a measured, not calculated. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the other side, what the chumpmasters are doing is simply create and inject irrelevant complicacy. people discussing splat distance ? let's talk about drag. it is a 0.1% factor at the most, so let's discuss it. people wanna pick a president ? let's find out who said nigger more times. this matters, to 0.1% or below, so let's focus on that. etcetera and forever, and amusingly enough they replicate it.
mircea_popescu: el headcages wonder why would a literary character stick one on his dick.
mircea_popescu: whenever i write fiction about rando anglotard gleefully jumping into a steel cock cage the usual gleeful anglotard response is that "he just dun understand what could possibly possess dude in story to behave thusly". nevertheless, when presented with the exact, point-by-point equivalent for their head, they without exception jump right in, which creates the very strange yet picturesque situation where a buncha doods with ste
mircea_popescu: this pretty much sits at the core of the whole dispute. by "fit in head" tmsr simply means "do not engage irrelevant complicacy". complicacy serves as a term of art here, to denote things that are constructively complicated, as opposed to the naturally complicated. what your woman means when she speaks is complicated ; but marriage is complicacy. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now THIS is what we mean by "learned helplessness" in each and every single instance where that term of art is used. guy who could, and on the basis of having passed into 9th grade somehow SHOULD, evaluate a claim as to factuality, accuracy, correctness etcetera fails to do so. the failure is not organic but psychogenic. the replacement of sanity with socialistard blather follows from this, because you know, gotta say somethi
mircea_popescu: reasonably bright, diligent fellow, who also happens to http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#selection-711.0-711.610 ended up believing himself 1. NOT in a position to evaluate a claim as to distance because he "can not calculate drag from the human body" ; and then consequently 2. ACCEPT some wikitardation as legitimate on the basis that a) he's impotent (as demonstrated by his cont
mircea_popescu re-reads drag discussion from yest, realises it is a very fundamental process at the root of socialist empire. consider what happened :
gribble: Error: "~google" is not a valid command.
erlehmann: > There’s a very scary trend online now where young people kill themselves online. How terrible is that?!
erlehmann: this ends on a weirdo note http://hkhousewife.com/travel/tokyo-earthquakes-and-train-suicide/
asciilifeform: there, iirc was a chick who survived parachuteless fall from liner
asciilifeform: more interesting when they fall on a car
mircea_popescu: there was no question of survival, indentification more a concern.
mircea_popescu: "drag" is aconsideration in this discussion for the sort of intellect that reads wikireddit and thinks haskell is a useful programming language.
asciilifeform: gotta be one hell of a rich d00d, to jump from 100..
asciilifeform: 100 is a luxury!
gribble: Error: "~calc" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: odds are he's not competent enough to reason about a cup of tea.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it just sits there. there's no transition on a roof. if anything, the lack of transitions is calming, which is why jumpers can notoriously be talked out of it. make no sudden gesutres, let him take in the outdoors, he';ll climb down.
mircea_popescu: have you ever seen an idiot stop in a doorway ? because his brain simply shut down confronted with the transition ? "oh, room. outdoors. whoa!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform people are not thinking agents. in deprs, transitions are a major consideration, much more so than any others.
asciilifeform: even if street sweeper charges, what's it cost to hose a pavement.
erlehmann: shop around for a cheap death!
mircea_popescu: few a year isn't much of a frequency
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 01:29 mircea_popescu: "when a man grows old, and his balls grow cold, and the tip of his prick turns blue, he may in turn start do as the subj link describes, an' triage'm by symptoms"
mircea_popescu: apparently "don't step in front of subway, you will die" is a lot less comprehesible to 8 yo japanese girl than "if i end up having to pay a fine for it I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU!"
mircea_popescu: in other news, i got one of those bar shot ladle things, for ease of delivery. it's a very useful implement.
mircea_popescu: a nudge is as good as fuckall to the blind bat.
asciilifeform: erlehmann: these are a snore and merit 0 brain cycles at all
erlehmann: asciilifeform crypto cranks need no proofs. take https://keybase.io/triplesec/ – money quote: “We don't have any exact proof of security for a cascade of block ciphers in CTR mode. But we're pretty sure”
mircea_popescu: "when a man grows old, and his balls grow cold, and the tip of his prick turns blue, he may in turn start do as the subj link describes, an' triage'm by symptoms" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. his bad for inserting a conjecture among actually known shit. there's a difference between "we don't know if rsa is hard" and "we know you can't compress all files"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is theoretically a problem
mircea_popescu: i recall he was a grad student or such
asciilifeform: wiles was a known pro, 'in the wot', note.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but the proposition that a proof for fermat's conjecture is not worth reading past page four is not factual.
mircea_popescu: o i had a lot of fun with that as a kid.
asciilifeform: ( iirc they do finally have a signed private gps band )
asciilifeform: did the usg.ntp people ever get a signed version going, i wonder
mircea_popescu: people pretending otherwise are pretending otherwise, like the girlies trying to get a husband by staring.\
mircea_popescu: cuz now you've built a different kind of ship
a111: Logged on 2017-07-07 00:50 mircea_popescu: 'Perhaps the best example of claiming credit for a problem that did not exist before is the marine chronometer. The marine chronometer enthusiasts claim it solved the “timing at sea” problem. Two men attempting to meat in front of Saint Paul's need to agree on a time of day, so how do you provide time for a ship at sea ? Very simple, you do not send out ships without a timetelling oracle onboard.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-07#1679792 >> moar closely, oughta be '...simply do not send out ships out of sight of a clock tower!1' ☝︎
erlehmann: > the author has never made a study of these branches of learning
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/there-has-not-yet-been-seen-a-simple-thing-even-if-were-drowning-in-simple-people/
erlehmann: i wonder what “simple” in that sentence would mean. short? or “i have a beautiful solution but it does not fit into the margin of this input field”?
mircea_popescu: cuz you know, dollars don't lack a central authority. somehow. because if we lalalala really hard pantsuit hilarity losing the elections didn't happen and totally the fed is in control of shit.
mircea_popescu: this is by no means singular derapage of one stray goat, either. "how do you check the correctness of a program ?" "very simple -- first, you build an universal corectness checker. then, you feed it your problem. done!"
phf: crafty, got a rise out of me!
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 01:49 asciilifeform: 'Perhaps the best example of claiming credit for a problem that did not exist before is Bitcoin. Bitcoin enthusiasts claim it solved the “double spend” problem. A music MP3 can be copied multiple times so how do you stop digital money being spent multiple times? Very simple, you do not create a form of money that lacks a central authority.' << ahahhahaha
mircea_popescu: 'Perhaps the best example of claiming credit for a problem that did not exist before is the marine chronometer. The marine chronometer enthusiasts claim it solved the “timing at sea” problem. Two men attempting to meat in front of Saint Paul's need to agree on a time of day, so how do you provide time for a ship at sea ? Very simple, you do not send out ships without a timetelling oracle onboard.' ☟︎
shinohai: I was in there like maybe a year ago, it's definitely as dead as #b-a
mircea_popescu: do they have a chatroom for bugs and suych ?
shinohai: While Limnoria is stable bot platform, the way it handles plugins does a lot of crazy shit I've never been able to fix. :/
shinohai: Yeah phf ....it's the heathen google plugin that came with gribble. I haven't bothered to fix, sorry, since I have a rewrite in the worx
mircea_popescu: much lower "perceived spoiliage value", however. and this because indians aren't worth jack shit in a fight ; whreas rosas kinda scared them
mircea_popescu: had the south managed to produce a de rosas, it'd have been a very different place. substantially, not just superficially.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ~only morally or intellectually respectable character in italy, ie the 1800s thing, was to be founbd not in italy but in sicily, which is altogether a different place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: soo the 1812 thing - yer thinking of a separate 'southern' peace with britain..?
mircea_popescu: no. picture if plantation owners marched on washington in 1812, and hung a) all declared abolitionists ; b) any preacher of any kind ; c) any old women who did not applaud a and b.
asciilifeform: picture if plantation states had managed to build a reasonable defensive army ( feodal-style; with purchased arms, mercenaries.. )
mircea_popescu: somehow in your mind these two things, one on mars, the other on alpha centauri, kinda meld into a single item
mircea_popescu: i tihnk you have no appreciation of the fact that a thousand years is much MUCH wider than the piddly 5k kms making up the us sideways.
mircea_popescu: by the time garibaldi was even a thing, the lido had long been sanded.
mircea_popescu: italy was used as a topographic name in the late empire (ie, 300s, italia) and else in the late 1800s
asciilifeform: i.e. when 'italy' was a topographic name
PeterL: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/S4MzV/?raw=true << mpfhf in python , I was thinking about http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-05#1679471 and flipping a single bit instead of going through the whole array ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 20:46 mircea_popescu: leaving aside that "an italy" would have been utterly horrible, there's no significant difference between these in respects that interest us. neither wanted "a holy roman empire", and so...
mircea_popescu: ie, historically more yous was the only thing they actually knew how to make. so they did. so... not much of a problem.
mircea_popescu: anyway, PeterL has a solid point : you may think of whatever split between capital goods and labour, but fact is, at the time we are discussing the shovel owned oyu, not the other wayu around. if you owned a shovel you were god damned out there shoveling every day.
mircea_popescu: medieval time, you built, out of stone, a tiny shop, cost about a hundred million in today's fiats, and got custom worth... you kjnow, 200 bux a day.
asciilifeform: how's that to work, unless the thing is built on top of a petrowell, in the basement
PeterL: how about a shovel, costs 10 bucks, but you can make 10 bucks an hour wielding it?
mircea_popescu: well, look at modern business. you throw up a bunch of vynil fresh off the boat, worth 40k if you're drunk that day, and call it a restaurant. then you expect revenue in the mn+ ayear.
asciilifeform: ( why would a $good that spews forth 1000, be valued at 100 ?? )
asciilifeform: 'your 100 btc capital good produces 1k btc a year' << where does the + come from in this scenario ?
mircea_popescu: and yes they had re tax : to own a plot of land you produced knights.
mircea_popescu: if your 100 btc capital good produces 1k btc a year, and you pay 1 bitcent in real estate tax and 50% income tax, you're paying... half your income each year, plus a bitcent.
mircea_popescu: here's thje thing. if your capital good worth 100 btc produces 1 btc a year and you pay real estate tax of 0.5% and no income tax, you're payinfg half your income each year.
mircea_popescu: and "shoulda been in the forum a while back" will not parse to anything, either.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that'd be 'a lord', rather than 'a crown purportedly acting in the name of all lords'
mircea_popescu: leaving aside that "an italy" would have been utterly horrible, there's no significant difference between these in respects that interest us. neither wanted "a holy roman empire", and so... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: also, "tmsr style" may be a misnomer. the republic receiving tax from the lords voluntarily is one thing, but there's nowehre in statute or custom where it says lord can't grind into paste any subhuman peons it gets his hands on, to extract whatever he extracts.
asciilifeform: ( w was a quasiliterate )
mircea_popescu: recall (part of why i even republishedf that) -- hamilton was an original, and originally a lonely, voice in the "to spend -- you MUST first tax" camp.
asciilifeform: as for whiskey rebellion -- that's when usg first switched to collecting tax forcibly, vs tmsr-style. buncha 'uppity' folx didn't 'get the memo', hanged a few tax collectors, massacred.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-21 15:10 mircea_popescu: rules to fucking live by, you know, "by the time you feel like you wanna live in a submarine, it's time to gtfo and find a better place."
asciilifeform: ( witness how the early church bureaucrats passed off a vpress of the newtestament as 'the whole thing was always linear' )
mircea_popescu: quite on the contrary. that can be a pretext, if you're willing to eat it. and if not -- others available.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-06 15:08 mircea_popescu: "here's what happened, and here's our story of a string of causes which we call purposes"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679599 << this is implicit to any forced (i.e. for feeding to dullnormal children) linearization of history, which is at the very basic a vtree ☝︎
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf didja change something on tehl0gz www recently ? it no longer fits on my displays w/out horizontal scrolling, is a headache
mircea_popescu: and if it takes a little incidental mention of the history of thought, fine, just as long as it's a) safely bowdlerized into nonsense and b) really, incidental to the great story.
mircea_popescu: schooling for the purpose of convincing as many unexamining intellects as possible that "in the soviet union kids get icecream". if it takes putting the agitprop mechanism in the middle of the forest cuz that's where the peasants go... well, they'll mount it in a truck.