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mod6: yeah, but personally, i wanna start simple. and then work our way up to major changes.
mircea_popescu hires some lobbysts to sit on the standards group and prevent this evil.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu won't give us his soviet calculator proggy, dooming us to rewrite it
asciilifeform: and no need for bdb, boost, turdolate on other box
mircea_popescu: fucking open source mpex, what is this.
asciilifeform: if doing this, why not do correctly
mircea_popescu: so actually make it a two machine thing ?
asciilifeform: where tx is baked
asciilifeform: why? that belong on the other side of optoisolator
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you gonna meld pinentry in there too ?
mod6: i think i just tried to put it out of my mind.
asciilifeform trying to remember why he was even doing this
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so make it work like top basically ?
mod6: i forgot how obnoxious some of this code was.
asciilifeform: the correct solution is that (now unix-only) turdcoind will listen on a tty. serial tty. ☟︎
asciilifeform: well, presumably you may occasionally want to transmit a tx
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform mod6 actually, could it be made to work so as to simply spit specified streams as it runs ? << not 100% positive but it seems that some of the debug stuff almost does that when turned on fully.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is it gonna transmit tx via polling too? lol
mircea_popescu: start it with particular switches depending on what you want it to spit out
mod6: yeah, it seems that way ascii
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mod6 actually, could it be made to work so as to simply spit specified streams as it runs ?
asciilifeform: mod6: when shitgnomes glue their crap on, they use paste with broken glass. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: check out what the command line cmds actually do in 0.5.3
mod6: anyway, not that i'm gonna keep going that direction for now, just wanted to kinda poke around and see a bit.
mod6: so slashing out rpc coudln't have possibly been that easy. but it compiled and ran fine, it seems, just no way to get info without re-adding these options as command line args. that might take some time.
asciilifeform: no chumpnet without a few of those can be considered complete.
mircea_popescu: tcp 0 0 23.235.236.98:http www.fraudalertservice:38410 SYN_RECV << all sorts of lulz like that.
asciilifeform: 'Hey, I have been looking to buy xrunner but can't find it. I have tried spelling it different ways. Anyone able to direct me?' --- first 'google' hit
cazalla: getting hit with xrumer type comment spam too since around time dos started
asciilifeform: i suppose i should've thrown that in there.
decimation: did anyone get asciilifeform's no-crud manifest to check?
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform is actually rather sure that 'boost' itself leaks. << oh shit you know what that's prolly it.
PeterL: lets you win a tiny amount or lose it all
TheNewDeal: Mp whats it called when you double your bet in a 50/50 game, every time, until you win (or lose a large sum)
mircea_popescu: get in the wot, eh.
ben_vulpes: but -- friday night, now stealing time away from familial sabbath drinking party to irc
ben_vulpes: moving slowly, endeavoring to grok and verify each and every stemp.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: tried building the turd from earlier? << got started, ran out of bandwidth in dive bar
decimation: the other day I was testing a pile of python code that was driving hardware, and I wanted to just skip X lines
decimation: asciilifeform: I have more 'learned helplessness' w.r.t. programming that drives me nuts: 'don't use goto'
asciilifeform is actually rather sure that 'boost' itself leaks.
decimation: I like the templeos guy, he has a fixed number of lines of code for his project, and wants to make it smaller
decimation: yeah, I agree, like you need a computer that tells you what fits in your head
asciilifeform: because the only genuinely curative pill is: fits-in-head.
asciilifeform: i always hated the emphasis on those
decimation: that guy who inspected the toyota embedded computer had a whole lecture on code coverage/testing/complexity tools
decimation: asciilifeform: it would be interesting to run turd through valgrind
asciilifeform must note that there is only so much turdsmithing he is willing to do without a good reason.
asciilifeform: will have to be done, though.
asciilifeform: decimation: not so easy to rip out of 0.5.3. see log.
asciilifeform: decimation: stierlitz << looks quite like it. that was my thought.
gribble: UNIX System V - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_System_V>; The UNIX System -- History and Timeline -- UNIX History: <http://www.unix.org/what_is_unix/history_timeline.html>; What are System V Unix and SVR4?: <https://kb.iu.edu/d/agjs>
mike_c: i think we ended up in the same ballpark
mike_c: PeterL: did you see my take on it?
decimation: asciilifeform: is that a picture of stierlitz in the upper right of the anti-soviet-portrayals-of-hollywood image you linked? if so, hilarious
mircea_popescu: because the contract is written that way
mircea_popescu: the share is designed so as to work an interesting way.
PeterL: did they design the price or just leave out design and let it fall where it may?
mircea_popescu: will obviously be a lot more interesting to work on a history than trying nude predictions
mircea_popescu: anyway, i think as designed this share price is eminently modelable, to great modelling benefits
PeterL: feedback loops make it hard to get a good number for the future
mircea_popescu: but two work one way, the third the other way
mircea_popescu: for instance : the more popular/relevant/powerful it becomes, the more likely it is to attract share buyers, authors and income. all three.
PeterL: other than that, does the analysis make sense?
mircea_popescu: course i think the most interesting thing in there will be the nonlinear effects due to the numerous feedback loops.
PeterL: ah, I see it now, there should be a number between the at and comma, 1% per month?
mircea_popescu: PeterL "Then in 10 months there will be 1`000`000 shares and the share number will be inflating at, if the paper makes 0.1 btc profit that month and the shares trade at 10 P/E, then the price will be 0.000012 per share. " << something missing in there ?
mircea_popescu: i think agent indignant cracked this case wide open.
mircea_popescu: that’s anywhere near sane. These sick dirt-bags had wires twisted in their heads, and they were frustrated, but they weren’t Muslims."
mircea_popescu: "A lot of people follow their own faiths. Most were indoctrinated since birth. That makes it very easy to believe the dogma. Yet, how in anybody’s right mind could they, as an adult, suddenly be told that the magic man in the sky says you need to start wearing a dress (even though you’re a dude), put your face on the ground five times a day and pray, and oh yeah, kill all the non-believers? Not happening to anybody
PeterL: I think it is almost ready, just testing it right now
asciilifeform only really hot and bothered for one patch (beyond all the chopping) - split off private key operations to $redacted machine connected via optoisolator.
asciilifeform: as in the seed nodes
mircea_popescu: user-configurable only, set to default = rnd
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: ideas for what, if anything, to do to checkpoints? << you mean blockchain checkpoints ?
asciilifeform hopes that folks have the sense to think about the merits of the approach, rather than simply start doing it
mod6: hehe forgot that the host i'm on is new. needed the libs that ben_vulpes listed in his script.
mod6: i think he bounced.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: tried building the turd from earlier?
asciilifeform: nowhere. watched the film clip
ben_vulpes: where are you reading that?
asciilifeform: lol, they took the carcass away in a police car ?!
jurov: gotta go, tmrw waking early and afk most of the day
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideas for what, if anything, to do to checkpoints?
asciilifeform: mod6: able to build original ?
mod6: yeah, im havin the same problem.
asciilifeform: boost needs to burn in hell.
jurov: i am inclined to suspect boost expands __line__ somewhere
asciilifeform invites everyone still awake to read patch, see if 'chef chopped the wrong carrot'
jurov: some template riffraff
jurov: um..i forgot to patch at first
asciilifeform: lol, there's still wx crapola in there!
asciilifeform: diff output of readelf or objdump if you give a damn why this happened
jurov: now they are identical
asciilifeform: what more useful thing could there be, than correct instructions.
asciilifeform: jurov: cut -d ...... << be so kind as to include patch for CHICKEN instructions in your patch
jurov: yes did not occur to me to post
asciilifeform: if someone wants to cough up a build script, go ahead
jurov: oh was thinking it will be for discussion
asciilifeform: jurov's gadget, if he follows this suggestion, will be such that patch can be mailed to it, and if signature (must be detached, because gpg mutilates the plaintext otherwise...) passes, includes patch in a build process