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mircea_popescu: what idiots do isn't really in the scope of this discussion.
asciilifeform: they could make almost anything and folks will buy so long as it is vaguely computer-like and doesn't run winblows.
mircea_popescu: anyone else they have left there won't even try
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they don't need much gut here, the chip was designed under herr jobs and exists now
mircea_popescu: they'll just pretend like the poroblem doesn't exist and will go away, like any mcdonalds.
mircea_popescu: and no, i don't believe cook has the guts to even try.
mircea_popescu: looks more like, "neither nvidia nor amd were willing to go into a intel-ms deal with fucking apple, because who the fuck do those assholes think they are and it's about time they figured out a) jobs is deads and b) if he weren't he'd be in jail ; meanwhile apple won't talk to intel or asus etc because they think they're too good to deal with lesser babka, and so they're saying fuck you to the entire modern computing g
mircea_popescu: if they don't have decent driver suport they COULD make some in house abomiation circumvent it all, and so on
mircea_popescu: if you want to process say a shader and it takes you half hour on mac and five minutes on gentoo then by this standard one would i guess say it doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: but runs as in what ? "can't access the driver, here's a nice welcome box" ?
asciilifeform: all that can be done is to have a node that 1) syncs, eventually 2) allows others to sync from self 3) doesn't go around writing blank cheques for the system resources of the box it runs on and handing them out to street scum
phf: asciilifeform: right, no surprises there so far. i thought that maybe as blockchain grows the cumulative delay will increase, but i don't see that happening yet
asciilifeform: phf: read the src. bitcoind never 'requests bastard block', it requests 'next blocks' and ends up with a great many that aren't the precise next block we want
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo "the later is simply for hire" << two t's
mircea_popescu: i suppose on the surface "sudden infant death" seems insanity, as adults don't do anything like that.
mircea_popescu: i thought unemployed is "hasn't made 1mn clicks on fb stuff this month"
williamdunne: I always thought the stat was meant to reflect those looking for work who can't find it
williamdunne: nubbins`: Wouldn't that be fair anyway?
ascii_field: (usg counts as 'employed' anyone of working age who isn't collecting state-funded 'unemployment pension')
nubbins`: "My boss wouldn't accept Bitcoin. I have since quit my job, set up a competitor"
nubbins`: "My boss wouldn't accept Bitcoin. I have since quit my job"
nubbins`: ascii_field don't mind me 8)
ascii_field: if it doesn't verify, it didn't happen in bitcoin ?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: can anyone recall why http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20141218/bitcoin-v0_5_3-rm_checkpoints_41327b9a962e6d27869f4d361d742ab5c7061ede.5.patch didn't make it in ? ☟︎☟︎
ascii_field: i'd much like to hear a persuasive argument re: why all of the above won't happen.
ascii_field: (and before someone chimes in with 'so don't use brainwallet' - ~every~ wallet that you can get to, but mr schmuck can't, because you know where you buried it, etc. is in fact a 'brainwallet')
thestringpuller: didn't tv's exist in 1948?
ascii_field: i don't have a prayer of doing half as good a job as hanbot on this one.
ascii_field: mats: works great with above setup. optionally jailer doesn't wait for you to starve, a few wks without any signal from vending machine & you go to the harversing table (wide awake naturally)
ascii_field: today 'vacation', tomorrow - esp. if they suspect you haven't in fact given 'it all' - the vending machine.
mircea_popescu: i don't buy from paypal, you expect me to trade with your vending machine ? wtf is this, "free market the way we like it" ?
ascii_field: it won't be for ~every~ schmuck
mircea_popescu: there isn't a minimum hand size required by gold.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I was refering to the need to get the keys or the coins, as in you can't take a laptop "full of Bitcoin" and have seized the coins: "Bitcoin on the other hand demands not only mere physical possession, but actual control of a set of keys necessary to transfer value. While gold is vulnerable to a simple change of possession, Bitcoin requires a more difficult but possible intellectual change of possession."
BingoBoingo: It isn't an actual property of Bitcoins. It is a failing of the social structuring of the stupid.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't get this distinction you propose. so "unlike the cryptocurrency Bitcoin, Gold seized immediately preserves its full exchange value.", what's this mean, that people paid less for faux Bitcoin the USMS was pretending to be selling than for faux Bitcoin pirate was pretending to be going to pay them ?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-06-2015#1174181 << they aren't. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: so that meta-lisard-nsa doesn't read my keystrokes through the mains ?
pete_dushenski: i can't tell them apart and some are $100, some $300
mircea_popescu: worked so well, too. and it wasn't even too expensive!
mircea_popescu: or if there wasn't steam, which is the bane of every glasses wearer.
punkman: I don't see this deliberate trolling you mention
mircea_popescu: what she means when she says things like " she did not really know this part/the client thing in that much detail" is simply that well... she didn't have to rewrite it three-four times yet
mircea_popescu: i think the loot code was rewritten fully about four times. this doesn't count all the times it got partially rewritten.
mircea_popescu: and when the fuck did "hacker" news turn into pink collar support group already. if you don't like working with the people that make the things you like to use, go webcam.
punkman: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9771219 "They value "the right technical decision" over human relationships and it doesn't seem to occur to them that the right outcome might be the one that makes someone else happy, or is the most diplomatic, even if it isn't "technically right"."
mircea_popescu: selfish people don't marry well.
asciilifeform: or perhaps he didn't care for ~that~ kind of whore either
assbot: Logged on 24-06-2015 12:33:27; funkenstein_: blogger claims feelings matter, doesn't know travel or whores exist, kills self
funkenstein_: blogger claims feelings matter, doesn't know travel or whores exist, kills self ☟︎
BingoBoingo: phf: It doesn't look wrong
phf: it's doing all the right things, i.e. wouldn't connect until explicitly given addnode, discurding bastard blocks, hovering at 62mb. block count 129821 right now
mircea_popescu: how the fuck would she be a movie star if she weren't ?
asciilifeform: mod6: thus far i'm stumped. will probably have to replicate your entire setup to get to the bottom of this (assuming you haven't yet)
asciilifeform: mod6: post the build log from 'doesn't compile' ?
mod6: but then it doesn't compile.
mod6: well, so here's the deal. I can't get it to compile "by hand". meaning, that if i extract the 2 bzip'd files for uclibc: uClibc-0.9.33.2.tar.bz2 & uClibc-0.9.33.2-patches.tar.bz2 and then patch the former with the latter with something like this: for i in `ls ../patch/*.patch | sort` ; do patch -p1 < ../patch/$i ; done
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for some reason i don't see the total count...
BingoBoingo: Apparently Luke-Jr has a node version census thing which unlike bitnodes.io isn't limiting itself completely to Hearniated nodes http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/software.html
thestringpuller: i guess it's more of a "vibe" kinda thing. the "doesn't fuck around staying focused" kinda vibe.
mod6: yeah exact same message, but i don't see the -fPIC flag in there... maybe im not adding that in there correctly?
mod6: didn't help anything.
mod6: and old version such as 3.4.6-r2 dones't work because no "hardening" such as PIE
mod6: and ben didn't like the idea of using anything >4.8.4
mod6: well, i tried v4.9.2 and that didn't work either.
asciilifeform: or hm, there isn't a link.
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 22:27:30; ben_vulpes: so jasmine-node installed globally across a user's system isn't accessible from /within/ the node environment
asciilifeform: mats: there were experiments with standard cell libs & ocr. sadly i haven't any links handy
trinque: not that others shouldn't rebuild, but rather that there'll at least be a way to quickly stand up a new dev environment later, if ya want it
mod6: i can't even imagine how long it would take on that POS box i bought. probably 16.
mod6: If this dones't help (i doubt it will), I'll need to make another AMI with a recent stage3 and try to shoehorn in this gcc patch I made.
mod6: looks like many of the much older < 4.3 ebuilds don't allow for hardened (unless I'm mistaken here). I'm gonna try 4.5.4.
ben_vulpes: so jasmine-node installed globally across a user's system isn't accessible from /within/ the node environment ☟︎
mod6: if that doens't work, then truly will have to get everything in sync and shoe-horn our own patch while all the stage3 stuff is up to speed.
pete_dushenski: i guess http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-06-2015#1169869 isn't that far off ☝︎
trinque: side note, I don't hate the idea of interacting with something like IRC via simple file IO
ascii_field: isn't this how gribble was lowered into pederasty ?
mircea_popescu: o hey, it was, wasn't it.
ascii_field: trinque: then it isn't a computer
ascii_field: trinque: 'don't care' is strong statement - you probably want it to verify blocks in <10min, etc
trinque: gimme teh S.NSA box, and I don't care how slow it is
ben_vulpes: and you can't wear it!
mod6: so i'm building gcc 4.9.2 on gentoo with uclibc & hardened (PIE). if it builds ok, then I'll give building v0.5.3.1-RELEASE a try - maybe this version won't have the same issue...
mod6: Anyway, trinque wasn't even able to apply my patch successfully on his side.
ascii_field: also didn't i give example arguments in ml ?
kakobrekla: The page you want to link doesn't comply to the standards for linking.
asciilifeform: at ever more negative interest rates, and you will have to go on lowering them, because if you don't I might cut down on my gambling and crash the financial system again. If you agree to these terms, then you might as well also give away your wallet and your car keys—just to see what happens.'
asciilifeform: 'The rate would like to go negative, but it can't. Because, you know, that's the kind of debt even I wouldn't turn down (by the way, I don't have any debt). It's the kind of debt where you give me your money, and then you keep paying me periodically to hold on to it, or spend it, or gamble it away—that's none of your business—until forever, because I have no intention of ever paying you back; I'll just keep rolling it over
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cazalla: i might've used something weak when creating it but again, it's not something i do so i don't really know what else to say
cazalla: you'd wanna make sure because i don't, and have not, created my own passwords for some time
cazalla: can't log in to cpanel to delete email addy now
cazalla: don't remember but likely
cazalla: isn't this just a case of someone (likely guy who ddos joiners here) sending out spam from another server but spoofing return address so qntra email gets hammered with delivery fail spam?
cazalla: can't you check logs to see who logged in on that day and few proceeding it?
ag3nt_zer0: I should probably just keep digging, but in reading the logs dated late 2013 I see concerns raised that another bubble is fine as long as it doesn't go to 1k... and this was not too long after people were getting warnings that btc wasn't worth more than $130... why was it bad for it to go to 1k or past, and given all this craziness, how do I deduce what would be a current fair price to make a relatively wise investment? I
pete_dushenski: i'm sure he'd appreciate it, if for no other reason than as a reminder than the usistan isn't alone in sucking.
Vexual: protip: you don't
asciilifeform: 'every program contains at least one bug. every program can be reduced by at least one line. ergo, every program can be reduced to precisely one line - which doesn't work.' (dijkstra?)
asciilifeform: btw i will note (in case this wasn't clear) that i test-fire everything i post