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mircea_popescu: as fucking if there's room for another adwords consultant in this world. someone's gonna pay for thius ?
asciilifeform: ( somehow 'badbios'-style odin's-own-gift-to-sec-researcher never seems to fall on the head of anybody with half a clue, but only ever milkmaid )
mircea_popescu: you know what nicole's moronic age peers do for "schooling to better themselves in marketplace" ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose, by the above logic, 400 years ago she'd have asked the lord of the mannor, parish priest, and passing royal messenger "plox help, my cows udders seem to be growing, wut do, wut do". helluva milk maid.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from cursory dig, seems like whole thing took place at a kind of trade school where they taught 'seekoority', i.e. how to install av on winblowz etc
mircea_popescu: femtards can code would like to know "what process to follow" when her windows laptop dun work. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: oh this is precious. "If it were just a one-off I wouldn't mention it... but if I do notice it happening again it would be good to know what process I should follow."
mircea_popescu: femtards, they got time and, sadly, a smattering of resources these days.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja know , there was broadway play about the rabbit chix ?
mircea_popescu: "rabbit births" only became a thing with diderot's idiocy.
asciilifeform: ( troo phakt -- burning at stake did not discourage this type of 'attention whoring tech industry' either )
asciilifeform: i suspect that 400y ago this chix would've insisted that devils inseminated her while slept etc
mircea_popescu: im so fed up with the whole attention whore tech industry...
asciilifeform: 'An NCC Group graduate trainee who emailed 300 coworkers to ask for help with what she deemed to be "unusual" behaviour from her Kali Linux VM; contacted the firm’s incident response team to complain about a faulty laptop; and said the machine had been "deliberately sabotaged", has had her victimisation claim thrown out by an employment tribunal' etc
a111: Logged on 2018-10-27 18:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-27#1866787 << for the record >> http://trilema.com/2013/badbios-aka-badlydonedamagecontrol/
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen lulz, mircea_popescu recall http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-27#1866809 saga ? apparently there's a philosophical child of it, this time chix, for extra spice, https://archive.is/TYVGF ☝︎
mircea_popescu: whatever, there's lots of these "could've, but didn't".
mircea_popescu: well, he was tech for the ~only exchange worth two shits, back in the early days. then that thing got subverted into aml crap, he bounced around a while, "transition phase" or w/e you'd call it, then he did the bitbet receivership and that was ~last anyone heard.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 21:57 davout: started training for my airline transport pilot license in december, and i'm stuck in ground school phase until may~june, until then i barely even make time to go take a shit
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 19:05 davout: still working on my take on cutting the wallet out of TRB
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, threatened to do ~sumthing or other~ with wallet trb... in 2017
asciilifeform: ( plox to correct me here, mircea_popescu , if i'm mistaken )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875422 << it pains asciilifeform to note this, but afaik it's been several ~yrs~ since fella actually ~did~ anyffin ☝︎
asciilifeform: trb, emacs ( might be hard cookie, but gotta ) , various engineering tools
mircea_popescu: i imagine that'll be spyked's next thing, bot-driven vtrees mirror service. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and to start porting packages that i use in life )
asciilifeform: i defo intend to host mirror
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:04 phf: asciilifeform: presumably entire portage tree pulls from https:// unless trinque also hosting a mirror of everything (i haven't looked yet)
asciilifeform: naturally they won't be present in a correct 4000ln ffaistic ecc
asciilifeform: whole point, ~unexplored~ corners, deliberately proddable, in the ~orig~ shitoshi sslism
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah. though in fairness, those corner cases rarely in the ffa or ffa-lite deployed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trb dun use any 'wwwism' from ssl, only the ecc numerics, so i expect just about any extant version will link and run. the rub is how it'd behave in unexplored corner cases, as in the der sig affair
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:43 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> will also be interesting to see if trb can sit down on trinque's libressl thing, instead of the frozen ancient openssl it currently goes with << I run a bitcoind linked against libressl 2.5.5 and so far it hasn't forked
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:30 asciilifeform: i presently suspect that this is because gnathtml uses gcc's AST for the input data, rather than the raw proggy text
mircea_popescu: (i gotta recall to say /vulˈpɛs/ to the man's face, see what he says)
asciilifeform: when does awol turn into mia
mircea_popescu: (amusingly, he also pointed out to me that it's not de fun, it's funES!! he's spanish!)
a111: 2018-04-14 <davout> should have synced by the end of next week
asciilifeform: and davout called him vulp, cuz france. names of the rose.
asciilifeform: why have promisetronic layers where there is already solid steel.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be ~nice~ if you used some kind of sane naming convention ? trb.adding-ffa.alf ? something ?
asciilifeform: we're already signing the hashes.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in the end we can't end up worse off than with hashes or something.
asciilifeform: imho there is not an open problem there.
asciilifeform: i prefer to be able to name files on own hdd with arbitrary names , so long as it dun break anyffing. and it doesn;t.
mircea_popescu: you're putting load on the wrong things.
mircea_popescu: there's somewhere i explain the problem with small children, that they take a look at world around them, which creates a snapshot in their mind that's static, and then they fall over because they don't natively understand that just because the fulcrum's left side is up like the chair next to it is up, nevertheless, the load bearing capacity of the fulcrum is less than a percent of the chairs'.
asciilifeform: nuffing asciilifeform's done, breaks this.
asciilifeform: and ftr naming convention ( carried on since asciilifeform's original vtron ) is simply that patch is $string.vpatch and sig is $string.vpatch.author.sig .
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 17:17 asciilifeform: phf: imho the correct thing to do, if you have 2 bitwise-identical patches , is to display only 1 ( i'd prefer it be the one using my naming scheme, given as it is my proj, but i also won't cry if it's the other ) -- and the sigs that match it
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875158 << this is rapidly becoming an (ill-specified) unsolvable problem. how the fuck is the program supposed to pick the word in the basket that "best goes with the rest of the novel" ? there's a fucking reason for naming conventions. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i got a whole stamp album fulla these.
mircea_popescu: check it out, the imperial process in full display. 1) introduce bugs ; 2) decade later turn them off ; 3) use md5 hashes for it all.
mircea_popescu: Limit arg stack to at most 75% of _STK_LIM", from July 7, 2017) are exploitable.
asciilifeform: ( if anyone wonders why -- was for peculiar industrial application where device driver gets built ~in real time~ based on custom params; no can do with microshit's compiler )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:18 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875120 << worked fab for bitbet for YEARS. contrary to ubiquitous claims, web 100% beheaded chickens by mass, nobody can as much as write a line of anything.
mircea_popescu: now ~those~ were the days of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875245 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct, with the diff that it's ~1MB of headerola, took coupla months to reproduce.
asciilifeform in old salt mines built winblowz, incl. w7, device drivers, with stock gcc, worked just fine, merely had to reproduce the header liquishit
mircea_popescu: it did look poorly born, at that.
asciilifeform: esp. given that gnat, like other gcc, builds for winblowz just fine if one insists.
asciilifeform: ( these --- do apparently exist! tho i presently have nfi who uses'em, and for what )
asciilifeform: i wasn't even immediately aware that gnat existed, thought that one had to get some TB-sized winliquishit from lockheed etc in order to ada.
asciilifeform: phf: good % of the barf was actually my own, thing struck me as gnarly and with all the wrongest kinds of pedigree initially
asciilifeform: diana_coman: when i went , all the good profs were already grey and weary, so not particularly surprising, i expect they died
phf: ftr i had no objections to ada either, i suspect the barfs were coming from peanut gallery of people who since dropped off
asciilifeform: diana_coman: funnily enuff we also had here '1 lang/week' curriculum. tho i did learn that many yrs ago it was abolished at asciilifeform's sad old uni, in favour of iphonism etc
phf: actually i'm not sure what i just said made any kind of sense. i need to look at cuntoo first, and then reassess what i'm trying to say.
asciilifeform still has buncha rubbish written for borland tp7 somewhere on tape
phf: mircea_popescu: my impression is that trinque has some kind of mechanism of inlining source code into cuntoo, so instead of it being a matrioshka doll of nested vpatches, any new vpatch to cuntoo brings in ebuild AND the already unpacked source code. my approach keeps the vpatches separate from cuntoo: you install cuntoo first, then pull vpatches separately. i haven't looked at cuntoo yet, so i'm not sure how he's doing it though
asciilifeform: it used to be common
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no; possibly having started with Pascal in highschool & the "one programming language per week" crazy uni year of choice -> "stronger stomach", if anything
mircea_popescu: i suppose the using of the weird directory structure's an eyesore, but whatever, can be fixed later.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:38 phf: i have a poc, that uses vpy as an alternative to EGIT_REPO_URI. you put all of the vpatches and sigs into /usr/portage/distfiles/vpatches and you have your wot in /etc/wot and you say V_HEAD='foobar' and it attempts to press whatever's in distfiles to the corresponding head, and then use it as a build target. it works, but i'm not sure that's the right direction..
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875139 << sounds to me like the right direction, what's the source of doubt ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman did time in heavy industry tho, possibly less allergic to ada flavour as result
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 15:36 trinque: yep, and ebuild tree and src tree really have no business being separate, aside from preserving the imperial "there is a package repository for all-of-us"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875138 << this is eminently true. in fact all these converge to v tree eventually anyway. ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman's stomach does seem to be stronger than most folxs'
asciilifeform: Mocky beat me to it
asciilifeform: ( does errybody recall how many barf bags they went through when asciilifeform 1st suggested ada ?? )
mircea_popescu is done with aesthetic value wordplay for the day.
asciilifeform: c irons force this dynamic
trinque: ada, or insert strictly typed draconian item of choice
mircea_popescu: "this item looks like it was thought in lisp and implemented by lame".
mircea_popescu: trinque and what, lame is the engineering tool ?
asciilifeform: so they dun entirely not-exist
trinque: phf: I'm developing a sense that lisp is a thinking tool, not an engineering tool.
mircea_popescu: his harakiri meant they lost interest.
mircea_popescu: apparently naggum was the one thing holding them in.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was a short time when those folx played at cl, 2005-9 roughly, but long gone nao
phf: i was very much insulated from open sores lisp with acl, just sort of assumed that they were all basically the same. turns out that common lisp world is a cargo cult. for when spec was never supposed to be and all be all: it was a _thin_ common ground of a variety of rich lisp ecosystem. writing _just_ to spec is an exercise in frustration..
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 21:47 Framedragger: this isis girl in tor reads crypto papers and implements them and runs their bridges infrastructure which uses its own nifty things (hashrings for distributing bridge nodes etc), i'm quite certain she hasn't heard
a111: Logged on 2018-11-25 06:35 venatiodecorus: honestly tho mircea_popescu jamie knows her shit
mircea_popescu: nono, i mean the community. expert sex change etcetera. you know, the echelons and the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-25#1874513 and the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1592242 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: fwiw i prototype algos in cl, which later turn into ada , but this is 'harem' rather than forum
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'community' is archaeological artifact, afaik we're ~100% of what's actually left
mircea_popescu: whole lisp community reminds me of teenager females and their interest in sex.
asciilifeform: phf: part of this is that we're stuck with 'fast pdp' c-irons
phf: there's much general fascination with lisp, but when we had to get shit done, turns out many limitations