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decimation: so in the us, you can work to pay usg tax, or work to beg from usg
BingoBoingo: Firetruck is immenently useful in post USG world. Break out the hoses on former desk jockeys.
ascii_field: (for n00bz: the subcontractors which do most of the practical 'usg-ing' are headquartered largely in north virginia, and have massive backup power and other every other conceivable luxury, large and small, on the grounds.)
ascii_field: it also shows where the -actual- usg priorities are
punkman fondly remembers the "by entering this website you promise you aren't a USG agent"
mircea_popescu: in today's lol at people who are not lawyers but think they are : quora has a tos and a special-for-usg tos. the tos says it's the only agreement between user and quora. the special-for-usg tos says "language in the Quora ToS and Quora Privacy Policy indicating it alone is the entire agreement between the Parties is waived"
asciilifeform: incidentally, usg doctrine is that 'fresh' nuke powers don't really 'count' - much as usa did not count in 1947 because, elementarily, not enough of the specific industrial base to secure a steady supply of nukes
decimation: yeah but usg ensures that they have a press op where they say the opposite
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the racket in question here is where usg plays hand-muppets and runs faux 'we're l337, we sell to 1r4n' at the same time as 'proletariat united against ir nukes' on the other muppet hand
decimation: no he said that they would have to wait awhile and fill out usg forms
asciilifeform: i think i can see why ubiquiti was picked for this particular role in the usg shitgnome muppet theatre
asciilifeform: one doesn't need an expert usgologist to say what happened here.
asciilifeform: usg contractor supplying boobytrapped goodies to the untermenschen
asciilifeform: of course, now we have a helpful recipe for determining whether it's a don't-give-a-fuck-shop or a usg honeypot - sue, and see if state secrets privilege is invoked...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2015#1090151 << nothing the usg uses actually works. ☝︎
lobbes: Or is it simply: "Don't make yourself a target for usg" ?
trinque: this I guess is how usg creates jobs
ascii_field: (solidly usg-controlled and no one other than us appears to smell the stink of the beast!)
mircea_popescu: but the pretense that his thinly veiled propaganda is "real journalism" is indicative of the state of the usg propaganda machine, be it daily beast or wapo.
mircea_popescu: yeah well... it seems reasonably obvious that the usg's very uppity policy is insanity on the mid term. they need us a lot more than we could ever need them. obviously a bit of humility today will save a lot of abject humiliation in 2025, but in any case
mircea_popescu: <decimation> in other words, it only applies to code that the user himself has compiled << in other words, it is by its very definition dekulakization. run the fucking code usg & dept of friend computer say you run, terrorist!
decimation: well, munger comes to the same conclusion as moldbug, that is usg is highly resistant to voting - because to be otherwise would be terrifying
decimation: ^ the 'result' is simply that outcomes are not process-neutral, so manipulation of 'voting rules' manipulates outcomes. thus, dictatorship by process, ie usg
asciilifeform: decimation: easy as a fart if you're a usg intelligence asset.
mircea_popescu: pretense to the contrary is just that, pretense, readily explained by the desperation in usg quarters post their loss of their main asset in here.
mircea_popescu: you know who he is, the law abiding middle class type that got raped by usg because hey, socialism has no middle class.
mircea_popescu: i for one am kinda curious to hear what it's like to be one of the usg cattle that actually got the knife.
mircea_popescu: "just one of those things". like rain, or the usg.
PeterL: so, my lastest run-in with USG agents: the mailman doesn't like where my mailbox is. It is currently on the rail of my porch, he says I must instal a box on a post in my yard
mircea_popescu: he wants to do what the usg typically does.
mircea_popescu: (hey, if the usg is pretending like increases in quality wash inflation away, same argument can be used the other way too)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the mega-l0l of 'cookbook' is that it was usg-authored originally. << Seems to have been independently written and later blessed because of its error, contrast to "Poor Mans James Bond" written by fellow who wanted to be their friend, but his work... not blessed
asciilifeform: the mega-l0l of 'cookbook' is that it was usg-authored originally.
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 02:21:25; asciilifeform: the other thing is the political nuance here. when you do business with riaa etc. you are banking that 2025 will contain a world where riaa and the usg it is an affiliate of - are still in business
mircea_popescu: for the other it's not ok to admit urbit exists strictly because a) yarvin's chumpatron attempt failed just at the time b) usg was looking for a particular tool
asciilifeform: they'll eat their pants before admitting it's 'usg bitcoin'
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084446 << lol wait, they came full circle to the actual goal, usg's own bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's targeted at folks who think the usg is a good idea and windows an operating system.
asciilifeform: 2) usg generates a private key to 'go with' the public
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since it isn't an actual cryptosystem, you will never -see- it. instead, the bank account of that clown and his university 'sees' the royalties from idiot usg affiliates proclaiming to 'use' it.
asciilifeform: the other thing is the political nuance here. when you do business with riaa etc. you are banking that 2025 will contain a world where riaa and the usg it is an affiliate of - are still in business ☟︎
danielpbarron: they can have their USGcoin
mircea_popescu: you KNOW this shit even got to be used in the first place because usg said so.
asciilifeform: to briefly return to thread, it is not a -total- waste of time to learn what usg imagines 'security' - for its private uses - means.
asciilifeform: for those who don't follow the antics of lunatics: usg is -obsessed- with domain segregation
asciilifeform: mats: selinux and similar are exemplary of usg approach to 'seek00r1ty' - add layers of 'granular' bureaucracy to the os
asciilifeform: perfect allegory for usg.
asciilifeform: anyway patents are a passenger on the burning atomic dirigible of usg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except that usg owns the patents (war trophies!)
asciilifeform: i just can't get over the lulziness of usg proclaiming that stealing/extorting from an outlaw constitutes 'theft of government property'
asciilifeform: this is how usg killed -actual- academic crypto
asciilifeform: playing with the 'big iron' at usg expense.
asciilifeform: to the extent they did not use it (and swiss 'cryptoag' etc marketed rotors until late '80s!! and possibly now) - usg and its merry men had their fun with the payload.
mircea_popescu: the sheer fact of the b-a of the time made it. the usg follows in all dances. never yet lead, never will lead.
decimation: but the sheer fact of usg's gold's possession 'made' it the reserve currency
decimation: mircea_popescu: perhaps, but to fully realize it usg would have to publicly destroy the dollar bezzle
mircea_popescu: decimation this is not going away. the usg's hunger for btc far exceeds its hunger for anything else COMBINED.
decimation: parts of usg would gravely protest other parts of usg minting non-usd
BingoBoingo knows of no circumstantial evidence that suggest USG proxy more than exists for BuzzDave.
asciilifeform: anyone who doesn't send them off to pound sand up arse - has bowed to usg
BingoBoingo actually affected by MP's deed of the day. lacks assets for USG to steal
mircea_popescu: usg doing a splendid job of getting the muppets do the "case da joint" work for free.
decimation: well, china has a relatively small core of 'managers', usg is really a headless beast
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> salesforce either << usg is not the post office. usg is precisely the folks who perpetrate things such as 'salesforce.'
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: usg buys everything on the 'friends&family' plan << And no one knows how tenous their connection is as Force, Carl Mark IV can likely attest
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> is mickey-d usg ? << When I worked there after Library school frozen meat cam in boxes labeled Cargill, member of Carlisle group, indicted somewhat in Farenheit-911
asciilifeform: no one who walks in, likely is usg. certainly not official procurer
asciilifeform: is mickey-d usg ?
decimation: asciilifeform: usg buys everything on the 'friends&family' plan
asciilifeform: (there is no private industry, in the traditional sense, in usg-dom. nothing larger than a hotdog stand, certainly.)
asciilifeform: being a dept of usg
decimation: aye, because usg 'requires' it
asciilifeform: the tests are a chump tax charged on folks peddling turdware to usg and friends
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not my fault boys are worthless irl, when irl is designed by usg.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-04-2015#1082925 << that's prolly going too far. the usg can prolly "exert pressure" on the price of soy, nevertheless you can still go to argentina's remote east and grow some soy for yourself.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> jurov: though BingoBoingo did 'go ferguson go' a bit << Then the peace vampires came out, like USG Informant Al Sharpton.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: the bitcoin doesn't buy additional hate. usg does that.
ascii_field: ru is not 'the future', just the best-looking horse in the usg glue factory, in this regard.
ascii_field: jurov: i argue that anything that meaningfully opposes usg is to be applauded
funkenstein_: ascii_field, if a bunch of assholes wearing usg hats take me down, i will know it was a bunch of assholes wearing usg hats took me down, not a giant
ascii_field: jurov: you have ru and usg respectively.
ascii_field: trinque: escape from what? usg's largesse? aha right.
ascii_field: saves usg cost, yes. it is encouraged.
ascii_field: understand, subjects of usg always have the choice of moving into a private, independent ambulatory jail
nubbins`: <+ascii_field> nubbins`: when the canadian affiliate of usg decides that nubbins` is a t3rr0r1st!!!1111!!1 and supplying mains current to his home is an atrocity which must end, 'underground economy' will do so in its place ? <<< understand that "underground economy" means you have neither a mortgage nor a lease in your own name
ascii_field: the list of the folks dekulakized, libelled, injured, killed by usg thugs - is bookcase-length.
funkenstein_: that bit about the father getting jumped by 45 guys with usg hats totally ruined my april 1 thanks a lot guys
funkenstein_: cause sometimes it sounds like you guys believe there is a real usg
ascii_field: for those who still don't get it - it costs more to -actually- remove someone from usg planet, than it does to lift them into orbit.
ascii_field: trinque: the implications are unsurprising. merely a friendly reminder from usg that anyone in range is fair game to it to rape with a telephone pole, and that - unless you're mircea_popescu, putin, or one of a hundred other folks who can say 'no' and make it stick, all you can do is to wait your turn.
ascii_field: nubbins`: when the canadian affiliate of usg decides that nubbins` is a t3rr0r1st!!!1111!!1 and supplying mains current to his home is an atrocity which must end, 'underground economy' will do so in its place ?
ascii_field: re: earlier thread: i will point out that folks who got on the plane and left usa borders but still earn a living from something on which usg might exert pressure, directly or indirectly, are still inmates of usaschwitz.
mircea_popescu: anyway, alligns incentrives correctly. "have you or anyone you know or care about been stolen from by the usg ? come join the people working to take away its shit"
mircea_popescu: trinque bitcoin is factually a threat to the usg "national security". it exists to end them.
ascii_field: like every criminal, the officials of usg do precisely as much as they can comfortably get away with.
ascii_field: and the plague is ancient. it is how usg ended up with its attempts to standardize cpu
mircea_popescu: there's nothing magic about usgavin trying to fuck up the bitcoin stack.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-04-2015#1082145 << "usg employee agrees to testify in court that the usg owns an amount of bitcoin that the usg wishes to be known it owns."
mircea_popescu: hopefully he gets his guts together and flies another plane into another usg office.
decimation: right, and the reason for 'disinterest' is because they expect usg to make them whole