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mircea_popescu: there;s a reason all bodies rot and no bodies catch fire.
mircea_popescu: at the outer margin half a mj ?
mircea_popescu: thereby a lowball estimate of "heat to dispose of one" is probably in excess of 30MJ per capita, as opposed to the 1MJ originally estimated above.
mircea_popescu: this disregards any losses due to the aerogel part, which insulates, and also any further losses from "boiling is not enough", as well as passive loss of heat into your apparatus etc.
mircea_popescu: the cost of ~mere vaporization~ of the ~mere water~ in the "water soaked aerogel" composing a shithead is ~280kJ PER KILOGRAM.
mircea_popescu: !~calc 4360 * 63.4 + 2260
mircea_popescu: to do the math properly :
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-08#1734048 << deeper, as in deeper. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it is within the context it was used!!!11
mircea_popescu: but we're not shallow burrying idiots here
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: but that is the important part.
mircea_popescu: from 5km to 10km, loses 13% of volume, gains 2x force.
mircea_popescu: davout it's a log. you are looking at the wrong side of this.
mircea_popescu: gets somewhat compressed.
mircea_popescu: yes, but do teh math! doesn't get compressed ~enough~.
mircea_popescu: the reason deep things seem to raise "slowly" is because friction, which increases faster than the buoyancy force does.
mircea_popescu: not linearly, but yes.
mircea_popescu: the deeper a mol of gas is, the greater the buoyant force experienced by the flexible container holding it.
mircea_popescu: ocean is conveniently located everywhere.
mircea_popescu: conceivable, yes. but much more distant. gotta load and then unload, move on land, meh.
mircea_popescu: gotta take them from room temp to boiling.
mircea_popescu: i guess 63.4 would be more accurate.
mircea_popescu: forgot this larger lobe right here.
mircea_popescu: !~calc 4360 * 80 * 50
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you omit adding the heat to WARM water to vaporization ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile! container ship burns ~200 tons per day doing 25 knots. this means it covers 200 knots (go and return) out of 150 tons or so.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what.
mircea_popescu: because why, thermodynamics is your friend and suddenly corpse isn't ~= water soaked aerogel ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand, the per-kg energetic cost of incineration is > 1MJ. this means 100 tons cost you over 100 GJ, or in fuel terms about a ton of gasoline. you can't be spending 1% by mass ffs.
mircea_popescu: dude...
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "cheap mains current". it's expensive universally.
mircea_popescu: the correct move is to take the dreamers from the section of earth inhabited (land) to the section of land uninhabited (sea) with a minimum of dirt and contamination produced.
mircea_popescu: nah. the burning's resource-expensive.
mircea_popescu: back in ro i used ash fertilizer, it was de-boned prior to packing.
mircea_popescu: calcium not so much of a fertilizer.
mircea_popescu: biodisel would be winner if we were intelligent celenterates or gasteropodes. for mammals not so hot.
mircea_popescu: maybe ; though all the bones and shit....
mircea_popescu: the problem with a dead idiot is that it converts upon dying from a large piece of excrement into a large piece of actual excrement.
mircea_popescu: something the "planning experts" germans never throught of.
mircea_popescu: the majority of the expense goes to making the corpse "Safe", sterilizing it.
mircea_popescu: the killing itself is a minor part of the problem. coupla cents budgeted at most.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's an ecological consideration. cheaper than burning etc.
mircea_popescu: yes, depth pressure will keep the plastic from popping ; but not from floating.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo depth just increases buoyancy. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. let it be plainly stated that current idiot's expectation they'll be shot is about as ridiculous as 1940s jews'. who the fuck can be bothered.
mircea_popescu: "my great-grandfather was clipper on a redditard disposition ship, beotch!!11"
mircea_popescu: end up on people's arms and shit.
mircea_popescu: "i wouldn't live on a place where reddit bags aren't visible from shore"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo moar like a sign of victory.
mircea_popescu: normally. but this is exceptional time.
mircea_popescu: might well work yeah. stick in knee automatically at time of packaging.
mircea_popescu: this might well be a problem. will require some research.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not these. see, they only pop in 6 to 36 months when they're well outgassed.
mircea_popescu: will replenish the cod off cape cod something fantastic, too!
mircea_popescu: well what, you're not taking them on a fucking cruise. coupla hundred knots offshore.
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: few thousand bux per million.
mircea_popescu: naaah. transport is cheap.
mircea_popescu: can even have hello kitty or kek flag or whatever the fuck warhol can paint the dreamers require.
mircea_popescu: this method allows perfectly dehumanizing death, safe transportation, slow release, it's the proper continuation of lime pit.
mircea_popescu: redditard already buried more than his ass is worth in resources.
mircea_popescu: and a coupla kgs of plastic WAY cheaper than 10kg chain + 50kg brick
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't want to feed the fishes too much at a time.
mircea_popescu: there's more tolerance built into the pack you know, than into the skin
mircea_popescu: can be made to, certainly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform plastic dun pop. hence your coca cola bottle.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: eh, what's the rush.
mircea_popescu: one summer or something.
mircea_popescu: and with that... problem solved.
mircea_popescu: sea dumping in plastic wrapping ensures they dissolve over time, sort-of like a slow release pill for the ocean.
mircea_popescu: build vacupack units, keep them fed with biomaterial (plastic, schmucks), dump the results at sea. a 100tdw ship should be able to carry 1mn of the shitheads at a time. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-06#1733223 << incidentally it occurs to me shinohai 's link is the definitive solution to the concentration camp problem. vacupacking the entire us population would probably cost < 1bn in materials. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of "uses of virgin oil", http://78.media.tumblr.com/ab51d45a5f1948a77406927b7e2339b9/tumblr_nlzjn9B0L81qega1vo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: ie http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-23#1283184 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which i expect is by now pretty butthurt out of sheer hunger.
mircea_popescu: as fucking if ?
mircea_popescu: "she has only to speak up and agree with us!!11"
mircea_popescu: amusingly, this is oddly reminescent of the whole http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-02#1259369 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ahahaha what the fuck, anyone even supports the "inclusive" pantsuit aggenda ?
mircea_popescu: hear hear
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was yea
mircea_popescu: (entirely possible the ro commies read the book and never heard of nansen, but anyway)
mircea_popescu: actually managed the 2nd, iirc.
mircea_popescu: (nansen was a grandiosely misfortunate norwegian that eminently didn't get to the north pole TWICE, nearly died each time)
mircea_popescu: same root, nansen ship
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: oh! cool.
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: coolant is over boiling point as it is. pressurized systems.
mircea_popescu: has fan. also, with the modern items... oil temp sits put at optimal throughout. well overcooled.
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: will also answer this.
mircea_popescu: you're just trying to answer basic q "sunspot y/n mega storm y/n"
mircea_popescu: acts as a cheap filter.
mircea_popescu: superficially, an inch or so
mircea_popescu: basically a sort of DDR stick on the ground.
mircea_popescu: ok, still measurable. have a km of cable coiled in between plastic foils, buried superficially, there's your mega array.