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RagnarDanneskjol: I need
to round up
the
troops and do some crash coursing in wot, etc first
☟︎ RagnarDanneskjol: i get it.
there is quite a bit of volunteer support about
to flood
this channel for
this purpose
RagnarDanneskjol: ahh ok, I'll
take it up with
the boss
then -
thought it originated w/ pete.
thanks
RagnarDanneskjol: in particular
the words it is established and moral requirement are unconscionable
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, i don't
think anyone said you had
to sign it
RagnarDanneskjol: i like
the declaration but fuck
the
tax bs for gots sake man. I refuse
to sign it! not cool pete
assbot: La Serenissima: Sovereign, Declares
Tithe³ | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
Adlai: nope, just encountering
this now
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512
Title: BITCOIN DECLARATION O - Pastebin.com
assbot: Codecademy
Teams Up With Online And Offline Coding Schools
To Create ReskillUSA |
TechCrunch
decimation: heh. I wonder if he used
this as a defense of his anti-dividend policy
mircea_popescu: er-tax proceeds
that will buy eight hamburgers,
then (d) you have had no real income from your investment, no matter how much it appreciated in dollars. You may feel richer, but you won’t eat richer."
mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately, earnings reported in corporate financial statements are no longer
the dominant variable
that determines whether
there are any real earnings for you,
the owner. For only gains in purchasing power represent real earnings on investment. If you (a) forego
ten hamburgers
to purchase an investment; (b) receive dividends which, after
tax, buy
two hamburgers; and (c) receive, upon sale of your holdings, aft
mircea_popescu: the fact
that
thew system offers a strong guarantee
that any deed can be verified in 1 step is valuable.
mircea_popescu: punkman so how would a 3rd party verify
the contentless signature is anything ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, "we're ~cracking down~ dontcha know, notwithstanding
that we have no authority.
this activity without effect could nevertheless which could affect scams we sponsored
to
try and destroy
this
thing but it didn't work out".
mircea_popescu: jesus
the wot is packed so
thight you can't even
throw a rock at
the swamp without hitting someone
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate wired -1 such horribru coverage from
the it kindergarten fishwrapper.
punkman: the detached sig becomes
the body of a new deed, included in bundles as usual
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo:
the buggers'
traditional defense is
to pretend
that
the event was a non-event - or, if
this is impractical,
to continue living in an imaginary world where
they 'scooped'
the story first, and all of
the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
punkman: mircea_popescu: yeah, I'd sign your raw deed,
then send detached sig
to bot
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, because
the scams hadn't already been cracked down upon a year ago, right here.
mircea_popescu: punkman so basically what, it verifies an alt-sig for
the body of a prev deed ?
assbot: Feds Begin
Their Crackdown on Bitcoin Stocks | WIRED
punkman: could allow larger limit for
teh lords
punkman: it just goes in as a regular deed, but punkbot knows how
to verify sig
Adlai: indeed, i'd like
to deal with at most one
turd at a
time
mircea_popescu: anyway, stercum means shit. sterculius sounds like
the god of diarrhea
mircea_popescu: im not paying for a week of graybeard
to go into its guts
tyvm.
Adlai: pure speculation: it caches
the list of -f patterns,
then goes over
the input lines,
testing all patterns on each line.
this would have a sharp performance drop as
the patterns overflow caches.
mircea_popescu: at which point ppl are like wtf,
this is some sort of a kindergarten act ?! who ever heard of
this
mircea_popescu: so it is decided
that... fancy
this...
they'll simply not pay.
mircea_popescu: aparatus desperately calls
to moscow, pls
to not sign anymore
mircea_popescu: dictator-wife goes
through dictator paperwork, wtf, why do "we" need planes.
mircea_popescu: romanian defence minister got sent
to russia on business, including
to buy some fighter jets.
mircea_popescu: one of
those
things only ever surprising in retrospect.
mircea_popescu: these consisted of accounts drawn against
the national (and only) bank
mircea_popescu: the woman, being also a mother,
took some money with her for her children.
mircea_popescu: eventually, as
things got out of control
they ran off in a helicopter
mircea_popescu: fun story : romania's dictators had nfi
that
they will be shot. because srsly, who would shoot obama, and why ?!?!?!
assbot: So I went
to open a checking account
today...How
these banks have stayed in business
this long is beyond reason. : Bitcoin
Adlai: passports as private key... remind me of some gag where a bitcoiner gets some "paper wallets" for his fiat account and discovers
that his keys are printed in cleartext on every page
mircea_popescu: it's not work of satan, it;'s work of whoever was
the demon of sloth
punkman: and signature of
the kingdom>
mircea_popescu: well wait. identity is pubkey.
the rest is
the passport.
punkman: well maybe novelty item
then
mircea_popescu: but i mean
the passport comes as a
temp freenode:#bitcoin-otc:blabla string
punkman: I'm guessing nubbins` will be printing
the first batch of La Serenissima passports ;)
punkman: mircea_popescu: yeah just noticed,
that's good
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don;'t
think
the wired story has anything
to do with anything. for one
thing...
they EXPIRE ?!?!?!
punkman: no
that's
the balance being spent for each next bundle
punkman: the bundle
txs are unspent, if
that's what you meant
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo:
the buggers'
traditional defense is
to pretend
that
the event was a non-event - or, if
this is impractical,
to continue living in an imaginary world where
they 'scooped'
the story first, and all of
the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
assbot: Hacker Dreams Up Crypto Passport Using
the
Tech Behind Bitcoin | WIRED
mircea_popescu: besides you know,
they prolly go in different bundles, and in general, it's not
the signature
that's subordinate
to
the document, but
the other way around
Adlai: mircea_popescu: "is
to pay" is a stronger statement
than "if you pay, ..."
mircea_popescu: punkbot suppose 200 of
those people sign subtly different versions.
punkman: well even if I keep 450 copies, would be nice
to detect it and present a special page with
the document and a list of signatures
mircea_popescu: Adlai : "absolved from all allegiance
to any entity ; if you pay
this much no one can ask for more"
punkman: suppose everyone in assbot wot signs
the declaration. doesn't make
too much sense
to keep 450 copies of
the same document.
mircea_popescu: <Adlai> "absolved from all allegiance
to any entity… is
to pay a
tax into
the coffers of
the Bitcoin Foundation" << you gotta re-read.