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BingoBoingo: line 11 in therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151225/ban_aws_crud_3755a8bb0800aa9ec6fdb5f840e67d6cca4ac5cc.sh returns nekkin ip addresses/ranges right?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: \x0d in the land of man; u+000d in zimbabwe, in the trees
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 05:25:36; mircea_popescu: for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.phf.2:50fd9856def1d11892a93952e0dcb21fb8e94057c701db179205a63d866654be
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody split your word!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: use -C always
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: y'know, let's telnet
ben_vulpes: i couldn't rule out curl hosing my experiments, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you're dumping in native-endian word
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: post your hexdump -C plz
asciilifeform: this is esp. lulzy in light of earlier thread where mircea_popescu raged at the notion of having to use a tool to read a contract
mircea_popescu: this is no different from "for as long as ben_vulpes' thing continues to be a thing", is it ? you're gonna commit your life to dpaste ?
asciilifeform: unless mircea_popescu wrote it and told everyone but me
assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 21:44:59; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: what about mexicans ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we have no such thing now
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 23:15:12; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: part of the appeal of running a 'pastebin' ~is~ the crud dropped in by the mob. for instance, there is a long tradition of dropping 0days and leaked misc crud on pastebin.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: read the link
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the latter was the gavinalert thing and i killed it long ago, yes
assbot: Satoshi asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option/src/main.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1QNa3F9 )
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: note that the former remains in place, http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0711
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: another thing. the 'upgrade needed' message is distinct from the turdmeister alert
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: btw didja see the link to your summary of changes article ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: they're prlly bound by omerta
asciilifeform: (though who knows whether his phriendz who worked on mircea_popescucoin may also be lurking)
asciilifeform: and the only fella who's seen both is mircea_popescu
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2014 00:20:41; ben_vulpes: ya got it
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2014 00:20:11; mircea_popescu: https://codeload.github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/legacy.tar.gz/v0.6.3 etc
ben_vulpes: anyways, the point remains. mircea_popescu did not select 0.5.3 as the root fork point.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i think pete_dushenski was trying to write a history of trb ?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you know what version was actually released by the phoundation in june 2012, your requested vintage ? 0.6.3
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: pretty sure he brought it up in 2013 not long after i started reading
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 21:13:38; ben_vulpes: http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/10/obamas-effort-to-nudge-america-000276 << in which the department of statistics completely forgets about the challenges of untangling correlation from causation
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2014 03:43:52; mircea_popescu: the resultant mess is unusable past about 0.6.x or thereabouts, for these reasons.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform ben_vulpes et al. i also found an even ~earlier~ mention by mircea_popescu of the "0.6.x is the last useable version" line in the sand : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2014#499837 ☝︎
asciilifeform: https://36.media.tumblr.com/74d1486c81d76777ab0c38070f89d6bf/tumblr_nzxw8qDQIj1v0e7i8o1_1280.jpg << looks like like... moiety
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the correct 'non-enumerative badness' expression is, ultimately, 'don't give cpu cycles out to all-comers'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: by no means. but why permit known and exhaustively-catalogued rubbish ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:
okcupidslut: https://36.media.tumblr.com/74d1486c81d76777ab0c38070f89d6bf/tumblr_nzxw8qDQIj1v0e7i8o1_1280.jpg ☟︎
okcupidslut: https://40.media.tumblr.com/be11b8853f01fae713b6086d759a43b6/tumblr_nzxvhuWnmu1v0e7i8o1_1280.jpg
okcupidslut: hey mircea_popescu is http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ still open ?
asciilifeform: in fact, whole point of 'p' originally in my head was so that mircea_popescu could have these.
asciilifeform looks forward to using mircea_popescu's p-block for telex clearsigs.
mircea_popescu: cat fucksticks.txt | sort -u | while read line; do curl -A "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0" --cookie "session=185406475447611750%3a13562327112394530656;secure_check=1;authlink=8e9808c6;__cfduid=de2158114156a0b38260969e145b2ca9e1450046931" "https://www.okcupid.com/profile/$line" | sed 's/profile_similar/\n\n/g' | sed 's/href/\n\n/g' | grep 'cf=' | grep "/profile/" | sed 's/="\
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: part of the appeal of running a 'pastebin' ~is~ the crud dropped in by the mob. for instance, there is a long tradition of dropping 0days and leaked misc crud on pastebin. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sed -n '/\/start\//,/\/end\//p' will work, but it prints crud prior to start or after end ~if on same line~
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: wai wat
asciilifeform mildly horrified that mircea_popescu found himself doing this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why did you escape out the fwdslashes ?
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 21:29:42; mircea_popescu: thinking about it : the one thing i like about dpaste in preference of uploading files is that i don't have to provide a filename.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 21:08:22; mircea_popescu: in short, i wisened up to the fact that this particular thing is of the "go big or go home" variety and insistence on peculiar versions of small are a waste of time.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353156 << it is worth thinking about ~why~ folks - including even mircea_popescu, yes - actually use pastebinatrons ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 20:41:26; mircea_popescu: how about this : only accept gpg-encrypted communications, and only distribute the pubkey to people you like.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 20:38:47; ben_vulpes: punkman, mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: destestable though they may be for injecting state into the stateless protocol, would a single "signin" page with an assbot-style decryption of OTP that results in a session key authenticating the user to the perlwad be an improvement, and are there better solutions i'm not considering? anonymous drive-by pasting is not a better solution imho.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 20:35:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353048 << no. this is a color of bits issue ; i couldn't care less what the technological constraints [appear to] be. a contract is a single item, not a text and a separate signature.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 20:31:04; mircea_popescu: you see me using "detached signatures" ?
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/46ab645fc84d49749873b4ae26b26c2f/tumblr_n7v3p9OYIG1qerpoyo1_400.jpg
jurov: i suspect ben_vulpes is not up for that kind of latrine anyway :D
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 19:32:46; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the other gestapo did not suffer from delusions of machine learning!1111111111 to help them process somehow infinite tips into an edible portion
jurov: ben_vulpes: i'd say you are going at it in wrong direction
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i do not think you should. !
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i do not think you should.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu proposes to manage dns without authentication? is this like the mythical bezzlebroker who only communicates in gpggrams with $maxint clients?
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 11:01:25; ben_vulpes: isn't that called a webserver?
punkman: ben_vulpes: perhaps issue something like "api key" to users, have a shell script to pipe things to, that sends authenticated paste request
ben_vulpes: punkman, mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: destestable though they may be for injecting state into the stateless protocol, would a single "signin" page with an assbot-style decryption of OTP that results in a session key authenticating the user to the perlwad be an improvement, and are there better solutions i'm not considering? anonymous drive-by pasting is not a better solution imho. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes note that often these self-misrepresented "techs" are actually 6 weeks away from the day they first heard of "that css programming language"
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 19:32:25; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1352815 << and when i wrote re: CLEARSIGNING IS INTRINSICALLY RETARDED BECAUSE IN-BAND did anyone listen ?
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 11:10:20; ben_vulpes: but i don't think you called out specifically that you can rewrite the whole file's line ending styles without invalidating it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1352815 << and when i wrote re: CLEARSIGNING IS INTRINSICALLY RETARDED BECAUSE IN-BAND did anyone listen ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'look at Microsoft. nobody in their right mind would want their buggy shit. what Microshit users want is something entirely separate from the products. Microshit is _not_ user-friendly, but it is marketed as user-friendly, and then other software products, far more user-friendly, are made to look as if they missed the whole point about what "user-friendly" _is_, namely to look cool in nice colors while you're crashing and des
asciilifeform: but just this thing, like water, takes shape of container (as portrayed in old mircea_popescu article)
VariaVarietatis: sup mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/05/02_a-brief-history-of-the-bitcoin-foundations-activity-from-102014-through-42015.html << actually re-reading this... hey, pretty fucking cool huh.
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 16:16:23; mircea_popescu: http://m.smedata.sk/api-media/media/image/sme/3/30/309393/309393_1000x.jpeg << heh check out the czech starlets!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> maybe i'm just thick, but i can't think of what ben_vulpes's 'wotpaste' is actually for << not really his, i just idly asked why would we make a special thing for paste when deedbot already has all that functionality and more. within the same ten minutes it came to light why and the matter went away afaic.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey everybody's front door looked like this
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 16:06:51; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1352791 << it's true, i never picked 5.3 per se. my contribution was that i said no later than 6 series ; foundation held an informal hearing, decided to go the earliest possible rather than latest possible route, supoena'd me for historical copies which i provided and htey used.
asciilifeform: maybe i'm just thick, but i can't think of what ben_vulpes's 'wotpaste' is actually for
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 11:26:49; ben_vulpes: there's an experimental aspect to it as well, in the vein of getting more signed msterial out in the world
asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1352823 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1352488 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu reveals that he has - to this day unpublished! - private 31337 version of bitcoin; then everybody tries to pry detail outa him; ben_vulpes asks for pedigreed tarballs; i ask for printed book... etc )
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2014 00:46:28; mircea_popescu: so here is a "witness" bitcoin, v 0.6 and there is your "improved" 0.10 (lulzy that it's not 1.0 anymoar)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2014#799538 << iirc this is the earliest point of reference for proto-trb ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> heh, i suppose that's the strongest indictment for the soviets ever : can't fucking distinguish 50s from 80s looking at the pictures. << yeah, whenever i see these older pics, I can't tell if its 30 years ago or 60
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 16:49:49; mircea_popescu: heh, i suppose that's the strongest indictment for the soviets ever : can't fucking distinguish 50s from 80s looking at the pictures.
mod6: it was this patch that overcame that issue: bitcoin-v0_5_3-db_config.6.vpatch
mod6: And this statement is not accurate: ``With the “rm_checkpoints” patch, the wedge issue at Block 252450 was overcome.''
mod6: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Although I posted this patch in December of '14, it was quickly tabled by February -- and I wrote about this in the SoBA: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000041.html
mod6: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Hey, thanks for starting to write up some of this stuff. I aught to point out at least one thing: 'Checkpoints excised by Shane Kinney'
jurov: mircea_popescu: as the pics are from '50-'60s, surely not.
mircea_popescu: http://m.smedata.sk/api-media/media/image/sme/3/30/309393/309393_1000x.jpeg << heh check out the czech starlets! ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 11:09:52; ben_vulpes: ah that's right you beat me to this one by a long shot
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2015 09:15:18; ben_vulpes: the link you cite as mircea_popescu picking 0.5.3 is a response to a request for a copy of the source of a particular vintage
punkman: for aficionados, greek santa is not Nicholas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_of_Caesarea
punkman: http://noradsanta.wikia.com/wiki/GLONASS_Tracks_Father_Frost lol
jurov: http://m.smedata.sk/api-media/media/image/sme/1/30/309391/309391_970x647.jpeg?rev=4 ahahaha ded moroz
jurov: ben_vulpes: gpg is okay with changed line endings in clearsigned content. However, some email clients helpfully wrap text or add/remove empty lines and there the buck stops.
punkman: ben_vulpes: while signed pasties are nice for the pastie collector, ain't nobody got time for that
punkman: ben_vulpes: not just newlines, you can add spaces, tabs, and possibly other things at end of lines