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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was discussing a more general rsa scheme, not gossipd specifically.
PeterL: I will have a look at making a reversing function for the mpfhf
PeterL: I will check in later once I am back at my computer with my key to verify this conversation has been with the real PeterL ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i mean the bitsize ; it's not just that though, partially known secrets, low exponents etc all conspire to empwer the latice reduction.
mircea_popescu: i know right ?
mircea_popescu: (and, of course, for short messages ie shorter than n i can just compute the e-root).
mircea_popescu: and upstream, to make clear what "semantic security" means : rsa is deterministic, if i wish to see if your "encrypted" string really was message m, all i have to do is encrypt m myself. if the results match i have cryptographic confirmation.
mod6: meanwwhile, I'll add a preface to the HOWTO doc on the minimum requirements. thanks to diana_coman for gathering them up once upon a time.
mircea_popescu: i think you misconstrue alf's padding algo.
mircea_popescu: or how shall i best put it, that's not equality but modulo congruence. whereby 7 = 5 mod 2
PeterL: oh, wait, no, I didn't see the extra ^ e in there
PeterL: so I guess "too small" would be something like two or less?
PeterL: I tested the fermat test, and with 100 numbers of 1024 bits deemed prime by the fermat test, 50 were found to be composite by miller-rabin
PeterL: I looked at miller-rabin, and switching over to that algorithim is quite simple
edivad: but i've done two times becouse the first has gone wrongly to the standard output
mircea_popescu: i don't maintain btcbase ; phf does.
edivad: i know, it wasn't a smart move, but if you see a spike of traffic now you know that it wasn't a ddos attempt
edivad: ok thanks, intially i thought that maybe doing 400-500 mb of http traffic could be seen as a bad thing
edivad: I've done it yesterday for a friend that asked me a dvd with the logs inside, to read them when on holiday with no internet access
edivad: a thing that i've not asked and now i remembered
edivad: when i'll login again in IRC, what command should i use to authenticate?
edivad: now that i've registered my pgp key, should i be able to authenticate signing something?
edivad: well, I have a spare brazilian passport in the drawer, so when I've read the universal plan, I instantly got some very powerful energy for a future exit plan
mircea_popescu: i can see that heh
edivad: but then after a month i realized that I was needing a better plan
edivad: since it was the first work experience, I was even able to enjoy it
edivad: in this summer holidays aside of ruinous altcoin trading I've done some painter job paid 5 euros/hour
edivad: mircea_popescu: because the universal plan for wealth makes some great guidelines, but then since every situation is different, I'm trying to understand if there is a better approach for who hasn't already a job and is studying
edivad: but my question is: as a student without a regular jub, should I need to a aim at a minimum wage job, to possibly apply for credit and then fly away to a second/third word country, get a decent house, marry and reproduce?
edivad: I know bitcoin since a couple of years and learned the hard way how to protect my funds and stay away from scams. Now I finally got into the sweet spot where I realized how many orders of magnitude my savings are safer in bitcoins
edivad: thanks, basically i was reading the universal plan for wealth
edivad: may I take advantage of my troubleshooting sign up into the channel to ask about tmsr?
edivad: guys, i'm gonna having asap my usual generous amount of morning coffee, since i was typing in the wrong VPS
mircea_popescu: i have 2.6
edivad: i'm on ubuntu 16.04, fresh installation
edivad: tried also yestereday to troubleshoot with mod6, (there was another issue related to the locale of my OS, then fixed with him), but now i'm stuck at 0x0B
mircea_popescu: edivad this is somewhat odd as i recently had a new node configured, came out just fine.
edivad: fwiv it seems that V download seals and patches but then the bitcoin source code is not included, and i should gather it on my own?
edivad: i'm a junior sysadmin trying to install trb on my VPS without success
BingoBoingo: lol "M. Poopscoop provides a solid foundation to comedy gold. With the current pace of events, in particular coinbase and the DPR trail he doesn't get as much laughs as he used to. I don't have the impression that is going to change anytime soon with the comedy features at an ATH." << The studious ignoring highlighted
asciilifeform: oh before i fughet, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-08#1695461 benchmark is 0.8s on crapple shitbook, and 2.52s on ye olde workhorse x60 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i think those are for smoking.
mircea_popescu: i see you're enjoying.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dumbsticks, maybe youy don't make a fool of yourself in prose.
asciilifeform: also i thought mention of mp/trb/et al were a hangin' offense at tardstalk
mircea_popescu: baccalaureatelifeform. i chuckled.
mircea_popescu: aha. well technically, i found them because got bored today and dug into older reports in moar detail.
asciilifeform: however it does not seem possible to do without it. but i have not proven this impossibility.
mircea_popescu: i recall.
asciilifeform: now wouldja believe i spent 3 wks trying to eliminate the if N mod 2 = 0 ... condition in Square_Comba
mircea_popescu: i thought that's done automatically already, in formal verification
asciilifeform: hence why i went for man-provables.
asciilifeform: it thereby follows that i could unroll comba into explicit cases from 1 to 8 words ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-08#1695463 << i realized that this might not be true : the (empirically found, but seems to hold on all of my iron) threshhold for karatsuba +ev is > 8 words : ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and in typical medium success stories, https://medium.com/@andreaarmstead16/how-i-become-a-bona-fide-member-of-the-great-illuminati-1ee9eed25ea3
a111: Logged on 2017-08-08 19:19 PeterL: ok, so if I switch the primality algorithm, what do you think of the rest of it?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-08 18:55 PeterL: so I felt like taking a stab at gossipd, take a look? http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ul3Op/?raw=true
asciilifeform: currently i suspect that this thing is at the theoretical limit of performance you can get without doing something nonportable.
asciilifeform: (i.e. on archs with smaller bitness)
asciilifeform: mod6: i almost decided to throw it all out and use generic multiply-by-self for squaring again
asciilifeform: i.e. PeterL put in a great deal of sweat, it shows; but the result does not make my work any easier, unfortunately
PeterL: ok, so if I switch the primality algorithm, what do you think of the rest of it? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i understand what is meant by 'prototype', but an rsatron (ignoring for a moment the constant-time thing) that uses fermat's primality test as the sole probe, is analogous to a grenade with a half second fuse
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 00:17 asciilifeform: sina: the reason why i am not particularly hot&bothered, is that your prototype does not contain any of the parts that comprise 99+% of the necessary work of an adult gossipd
asciilifeform: at the same time i dun wanna discourage PeterL or other folks, from their exercises.
asciilifeform: i'ma save log space, and invite PeterL to read what i observed re the last d00d's gossipd prototype.
PeterL: I know it has limitations, yes
PeterL: like I said, prototype, if it works then can be ported to using ada (at least that is my idea)
asciilifeform: PeterL: i have to rain on the parade, but i dun see what you win from writing own rsa in this one. py arithmetic is not constanttime
asciilifeform: i'm doomed to actually read this, arenti
PeterL: I took a stab at writing my own rsa
PeterL: so I felt like taking a stab at gossipd, take a look? http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ul3Op/?raw=true ☟︎
asciilifeform: '(setq shell-file-name "C:/MinGW/msys/1.0/bin/bash")' << every time i see these, i think 'why, poor bastard, why'
phf: can't find it in logs, but i'll link you other version when i get to non work computer
phf: asciilifeform: no i haven't tried printing it, i saw this version, but i believe it's derivative. there's prior work with much nicer "diffs against dpANS" approach.
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf i noticed recently that http://cvberry.com/tech_writings/notes/common_lisp_standard_draft.html exists. some years ago i tried to do same thing, but the sheer bulk of the pdf choked every printing co., incl. 'lulu'. ever tried ?
BingoBoingo: !~later tell cazalla From what I hear still good. As always check the label/model number in case they start experimenting with Chinesium.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the genderfucked alicesomethingorother who 'i'ma meal-squares-mostly-eating-person' ? that's my mental image of sv
mircea_popescu: the problem with this simile is that i am unsure which is mapped on the cake and which on the wasps.
asciilifeform: i find it fascinating, the psychology of folx who voluntarily sign up for svtron.
mircea_popescu: i kid you not.
asciilifeform: while we're on subj, i get these hilarious invitations to sv conglomerates, ~every day
asciilifeform: i was working under the possibly mistaken assumption that not all pretty criminals are subhuman ('for convenience, i'ma shit right here where i stand')
asciilifeform: ( i.e. lone d00d, with at least 2-3 day plan horizon; rather than crowd of monkeys )
mircea_popescu: you keep saying this as fact, then i link you to dead feinsteins, then you forget about it for a week or two, then back to it.
ben_vulpes: i know, i'll make an ico
ben_vulpes: i want to issue junk bonds backed by battery powered dreams too!
mircea_popescu: i dunno, who the fuck can make sense of the stuff. kids come up with kid notions.
asciilifeform: what, i wonder , is the thought process ? 'i open crates with this, ergo it is fighting knife also' ?
mircea_popescu: like "i used the juice" bank robbery, planned, sure.
mircea_popescu: father with inept son watching keys locked inside -- "did you do it deliberately ?!?!" "uhhh i dunno...."
asciilifeform: whether monkey could 'decide to show up for work' -- i do not know
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 18:03 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562128 << http://glyf.org/tmp/DMT.gif cc asciilifeform, i came accros that dmt guide that i was talking about in my archives
mircea_popescu: you see, they can't use the good boat designs "because they haven't been digitized" which is code for "we lost them". so they're stuck with "This recipe i found on a site", entirely http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691198 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you're welcome to not believe, on ops grounds, "i will not believe enemy is dumb". but that aside, as a theoretical concern, how the fuck else will you explain "recent models actually worse performing than earlier models" ?
asciilifeform: i regard , for instance, a pill that's take phuctor from ppm of keys phucked, to ~most -- as interesting
mircea_popescu: i am not so convinced.
asciilifeform: i usedta work in one of these
mircea_popescu: something like that. though i expect they had a coupla people specially for interfacing with him.