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mircea_popescu: will you summarize ? i dun intend to read it.

r0nin-: i got it going

asciilifeform: r0nin-: dun go away, i'ma make a mirror just for ya

asciilifeform: iirc i mentioned this to phf here.

asciilifeform: (i.e. if you, yourself, already computed H(x), then you know how many turns of the crank it took. and can pass that number along.)

asciilifeform: i dun see how not.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you proposing to simply "take" bound time every time ? cuz i dunno this can bew done irl.

asciilifeform: didn't i derive a bounding function for it...

mircea_popescu: it dun have to be mpfhf so much as i'd like a GOOD alt.

mircea_popescu: tbh, i'd very much like to have an alternative there. i put in and took out the thing twice before announcing, this is the third.

asciilifeform: lol just when i thought up of a hypothetical way to save it!111

asciilifeform: am i missing something?

asciilifeform: but i dun see how they can live together

asciilifeform: well either it, or the constant-spacetime. and i'm quite sold on keeping the latter.

mircea_popescu: to be sure, i don't think you're making a weak case. im leaving the matter open, at least for a while, can you live with that ?

asciilifeform: yes i can think of a contrieved situation that calls for one. but no i don't want it in the rack next to the ordinary ones.

mircea_popescu: i don't carry around all my rifles all the time, to take a leak, etc. i can't.

mircea_popescu: i mean, i call out "hey, slut" and a dozen eyes rise. these are collisions, and what of it.

mircea_popescu: this is not altogether a weak argument. consider the converse though : suppose i wish to refer to my key by using fewer chars than 512 ?

a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 14:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, the more i think about it the more i'm convinced the ONLY "fingerprint" for rsa key may be... the modulus. 4096 bits and fuck you, if you can't take 32 chars you don't belong here.

asciilifeform: i dun see this picture, where we GOTTA take a shit into this here fine vase, 'or empire will'

mircea_popescu: i opted for 2.

asciilifeform: if i specify a pubkey for myself with 65536-bit public mod, then other people can simply decide that i'm an arse and that verifying my sigs isn't actually +ev for them

asciilifeform: ( i dun see any reason for a standard exponent, for instance. let it be a W-wide prime , different for each man )

mircea_popescu: pretty much logs only i thought

asciilifeform: for my part, i'm curious re what part of rsa mircea_popescu thinks even needs to be standardized

mod6: I think it's fine, we can ratify / ammend it as needed I suppose.

mircea_popescu: there's been too much waffling re keys on my part (which means -- any). i feel bad about it an' i perceive gotta write up

asciilifeform: ( why? i have nfi )

asciilifeform: tru ( and i linked an rsa-to-nsat generator thing earlier today )

mircea_popescu: which is why i read frege, and i don't read obama.

mircea_popescu: but i would have thrown frege against a wall had he "impossible" something i oculd trivially disprove.

asciilifeform: i bet mircea_popescu had a riot reading russel & whitehead , 'idjits, taking 1500 pgs to prove 1+1=2, which i know to be so'

asciilifeform: 'bro do you lift!11' 'hey i lifted myself off the bed today!'

mircea_popescu: it's certainly possible. i know the list "3, 5, 7, 11" is a list of primes through memory.

mircea_popescu: once you found the misspelling you found it and ere you found it the text was just as correctly spelled as it will be after you find it : "as far as i know, correctly spelled"

mod6: In that case, I have a bit more simplified version of mine that more closely resembles what I started with before.

a111: Logged on 2017-08-15 18:44 lobbes: Interesting seeing teh different approaches. Instead of primality test, I just iterated through a static list/array of primes (I figure that list ain't changing anytime soon). Here's my potato code: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/X0jSt/?raw=true

asciilifeform: i.e. 'this dun happen to folx with a working immune system'

mod6: using PeterL's method, i get the same number with openssl

lobbes: True. Plus if someday I need a bigger list, then I gotta go editing hardcoded lists vs just flipping a parameter somewhere

lobbes: Interesting seeing teh different approaches. Instead of primality test, I just iterated through a static list/array of primes (I figure that list ain't changing anytime soon). Here's my potato code: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/X0jSt/?raw=true ☟︎

mircea_popescu: so it turns out, i never heard of gut tb because you generally need aids to get it. and back when i was reading they didn't have aids just yet.

asciilifeform: or i suppose it would, if you have the guts from old tv sat dish

mod6: im not sure i know how to code this.

mod6: i thought it was 1*2*3*5*7*11*13 ... all the way up through whatever prime fits into < 4160 bits.

mod6: maybe i misunderstand the request.

mircea_popescu: because i don't. it's eaten >9k fathoms of cable and we plumbed no bottom yet.

mircea_popescu: i'm tal;king of the nobodies on a stick herp0derping importantly

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't care about the fucking shrems involved. we know they're smegma.

mircea_popescu: "look mom, i'm just like the nigger on tv! talking of the satcom portion!! would you like to hear more meaningless words ???"

mircea_popescu: "<Socal> Ah ok I don't know about FIBRE I was simply speaking on the SATCOM portion"

asciilifeform: i dun think this one has the excuse of mere idiocy

shinohai: Charlie Shrem on twatter: "Bounty: I want to run a full node and connect to @Blockstream satellite. Sell me a DIY kit with all requirements" ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never heard of this before ? i mean, lung, bone, some vacuous organs. but gut ?!

shinohai: tl;dr I'm afraid to get picked apart if I come to #trilema, I prefer to stay on steemit and feed idiots full of shit.

a111: Logged on 2017-08-15 14:58 asciilifeform: ... even with 1MBit (!!!) , i.e. 1048576 .

mod6: a topic for further discussion i suppose.

asciilifeform: ... even with 1MBit (!!!) , i.e. 1048576 . ☟︎

lobbes: aka, I get the same output as both of PeterL's runs

lobbes: If using the 4160 bit limit, then I get the following (comes to 4150 bits): http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ED76z/?raw=true

a111: Logged on 2017-08-14 17:20 mircea_popescu: this is actually going to be teh magic number of the republic. so at this juncture i would like to ask everyone to compute "the largest primorial (ie, product of all successive primes) that fits in 515 bits", sign it and put it into deedbot.

ben_vulpes: oh subject of, i just had a grand time with rushdie's satanic verses.

mircea_popescu: i suppose a better translation would be "doctor, i hear voices, they talk to me, should i worry ?" "you should worry when you start talking back."

mircea_popescu: as per that ancient "doctor, is it bad if i hear voices ?" "only if you start answering."

ben_vulpes: i...don't follow

asciilifeform: you can't use ada's array concatenation feature either, to cheat, because i banned it. it introduces implicit jump.

mod6: <+asciilifeform> and incidentally mod6 , is it obvious why this only works if L is restricted to powers of 2 ? << no, i think im missing the entire idea of why this is written this way.

asciilifeform: array slices retain the indexing of the underlying array. this is The Right Thing ( see prev thread on subj where i explained to mircea_popescu ) but makes iterating over them slightly trickier in certain cases.

asciilifeform: mod6: an array slice ( concept which also exists in common lisp ) can be thought of as a sane man's pointer. i.e. it maps into the original, and writes go through; but it is guaranteed not to spill, out of the original or out of its own more constrained bound

mod6: i dun get why, if you didn't change the maff, why you would make it more complicated

mod6: i dun get it then

mod6: maybe i should ask a different question: which part do you find to be less readble?

asciilifeform: mod6: i dun understand the question

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is the "i just wanted to" right opposed at the "i just wanted to left" removal as being too radical ? after all, they DO "just want to" undisturbed ? or what ? << It seems like there is a mass of confusion in them.

asciilifeform: hence why everything that oughta be inlined, i empirically determined, and already is.

mod6: that's what i was trying to get at. i suppose the compiler would just reject your request to inline then, or perhaps thats ctronic thinking.

asciilifeform: i thought this was clear...

asciilifeform: ( in so far as i can tell, it indeed respects the standard, and preserves control flow as written )

asciilifeform: mod6: idea with this item, is that L is a power of 2 always. in 'classical' one, L can be anything (e.g. a 192-bit ffa ends up 3*64 on my box, i.e. L=3 )

asciilifeform: i abolished the 'record' thing

mod6: but i've only scanned it once. so perhaps I shouldnt comment too much on that.

mod6: as it stands, at the moment, sounds like a mechanical push. with the ability to set the length to some power of two. i'd say it's a bit harder to follow, code-wise, with the recursive calls perhaps.

asciilifeform: i suspect that the reason is that the op fit in cache ANYWAY even prior

asciilifeform: yeah i thought also.

phf: for a second there i thought freenode finally jumped the shark

phf: i see

mod6: phf: fwiw, i don't see a111 in my current /names list.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-14#1697933 << pretty easily. asciilifeform had a bumper wreck in bmore once, passing cop declined to take report, demanded 'who was killed here? if nobody, i have no time for this, and no one else from station will come either' ☝︎

asciilifeform: which is odd, because i still see the bots !

mircea_popescu: is the "i just wanted to" right opposed at the "i just wanted to left" removal as being too radical ? after all, they DO "just want to" undisturbed ? or what ?

mircea_popescu: um. "The goal is to turn peaceful protests violent, and spark a Civil War." i don't get it, how is this a bad thing ?

danielpbarron: i did get a pm on tardtalk recently but i didn't log in to read it; just saw the notification email

shinohai: I honestly think anonymint uses crystal meth

shinohai: penalize by selling the fork and buying another honest one, but he will need sufficient mining resources and other significant BTC holders to enjoin him in this fight. Rather I think most astute BTC holders will realize this is the end of the paradigm and liquidate.'

shinohai: "I believe Mircea Popescu has gravely miscalculated. Either he has been coloring his own BTC within the danger period (i.e. being careful of the lineage of the BTC obtained in recent times), else his BTC is also susceptible to being stolen. Otherwise, he would need vast mining resources to maintain his own fork or he would need to penalize/bribe miners to not steal his BTC where it is so encumbered. He can

mircea_popescu: this is the typical end product of the imbecile "just the facts" "i am equpped to think for myself" ustard.

mircea_popescu: did i ever tell you the story of the progressive tea shop in timisoara ?

asciilifeform: relatedly, a shortwave ( or even ultralong wave! ) transmitter of genuine ( i.e. best-known-pov ) blox, would be a fine thing