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gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: kk, added to "the list"
asciilifeform: basic operations mapped to 'f' keys, just like in the ancient 'norton commander' it was originally a clone of
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: will, for example, traverse most known (and, with minor fiddling, unknown) types of archive as if they were dirs
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: plenty of things.
asciilifeform: but none (discussion limited to modern-ish hardware, rather than collectables) that don't have mc.
asciilifeform: i own computers that do not run emacs,slime,cl.
asciilifeform: but it's definitely an acquired taste.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: while we're on the subject, is there anything you consider absolutely essential for computing outside of CL+SLIME?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i'm afraid not. you will have to investigate personally. i built my emacs some years ago, and thoroughly forgot.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: if you've information contradicting the stackoverflow question in question please say so. I'm in the middle of building a non-retarted linux distribution and would like to have Emacs as battle ready as possible by default.
asciilifeform: perhaps it wasn't a flag, but had to actually diddle the src.
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall this
assbot: Logged on 21-11-2014 01:14:46; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: text editor experiment << when you build 'emacs', you can select 'use mmap for buffers' as a compile flag.
gabriel_laddel: this is the thread I was following up on http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-11-2014#930233 ☝︎
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gabriel_laddel: !s doesn't do this for some perverse reason
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mats: its fast approaching ten years of life, im surprised you don't know of it
asciilifeform: i have no idea what that is.
asciilifeform: that 'toshiba' was as close as i ever got to perfect.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: the never ending quest for a bed-ready computer?
decimation: asciilifeform: every time I install rhel6 I have to spend 10 minutes de-poettering and de-gnoming it
asciilifeform: decimation: gnome tendrils get pulled in by virtually every popular xorg app
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm rather curious as to why you're fixing (for some value of that word - more akin to fixing up a corpse before burial, w/e) up a openbsd box when you've got your own gentoo 'fork'?
decimation: I can't keep the kde and gnome stuff straight
asciilifeform is at this moment roto-rooting out gnome tendrils from an openbsd box
BingoBoingo: Very hard for a person to quit heroin, but easy for heroin to quit person!
decimation: asciilifeform: re: useful classes < at purdue they had welding, but it was always completely booked
kakobrekla: if its really hurtin that much
kakobrekla: i can dispose of that for a modest fee
mats: gonna miss this xmas deadline :( this 0.35btc has been burning a hole in my wallet
mike_c: he better not show up with the same thing as last year
kakobrekla: he must go to show off the rng or smth? :)
kakobrekla: i dont leave the house if i dont have to.
mike_c: i think he hates travelling.
mike_c: but that's just the time the rest of us will be there.
kakobrekla: lol i dont mind the rally but has nothing to do with it :)
mike_c: well, hopefully there will be a rally soon and you change your mind.
kakobrekla: well that seems to be the case round the globe
mike_c: i hear bitcoins in argentina are dirt cheap too
mike_c: aww. it's a new stamp on the passport!
kakobrekla: no, i dont think so.
mike_c: kakobrekla, you going to ba in april?
kakobrekla: -1.26, i wonder if this accounts for the general shit quality of miner hw
mats: unlike the war islam is waging on the rest of the world, on the express command of the prophet
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adlai: actually it's just beginning so an end tag is inappropriate. this is why XML is bad, kids.
adlai: all information deducible from one transaction graph is deducible from the other, and using unique addresses means that unspent transactions aren't [yet] linked to the business
davout: i don't think address reuse enhances privacy either
adlai is still far from sold on this whole address-reuse-helps-privacy thing
adlai: in the case of multiple business addresses, it's easy, but in the case of the business using a single address, you can still see which input from the customer transactions was used
adlai: there's the example of several customer transactions to several business addresses, and several customer transactions to one business address; in both examples, you can see which customer funds have been spent where, and which haven't been touched.
BingoBoingo: adlai: Sure, if only one service does that. If common though confounds assumption of 1 identity 1 address
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've seen them just sitting and littering a yard. That's a use.
adlai: BingoBoingo: the argument in that blog post kinda assumes you can't distinguish between inputs from the same address
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i only know of two uses - wagon, and breaking-on.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You may interpret wagon wheel purchase however you like. I'll decline to offer the use case for such a versatile tool at the moment.
BingoBoingo: It's just about naptime you your enablement is going to be hampered next time
diametric: BingoBoingo: thank you for enabling my laziness
kakobrekla: davout sure, theres idiots who can tie shoes and theres idiots who cant.
Luke-Jr: tbs, if thats MPs blog, I doubt it says anything sane
davout: kakobrekla: there are degrees in catholisrry tho
mats: i apologize for making this a topic of discussion
davout: kakobrekla: something like this
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sounds like if mainlined would be an occassion to go shopping for wagon wheels
kakobrekla: idk why are you all still wasting time with someone who digs jesus. it sez on his forehead, 'idiot, can not be reasoned with'.
assbot: Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin user anonimity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1sxK7Nt )
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: Services that reuse addresses across multiple customers help to conceal which customer funds are going in of and out of the service http://trilema.com/2014/why-exactly-reusing-bitcoin-addresses-strengthens-bitcoin-user-anonimity/
adlai: "im not sure random ppl can tlk rite" < moar fixd
adlai: also "[adlai's dad] is one of the best drunk drivers I know" - one of his friends
adlai: if a human can carry on a conversation while driving, then the social stigma against that conversation being digital is a failure of technology alone
BingoBoingo: That broken thing.
diametric: jesus taking the wheel while you chat?
Luke-Jr: brb, moving to car
Luke-Jr: adlai: any Gentoo user can customise the list easily
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: Is this the "filter all address reuse" idea
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: say what it is, then
Luke-Jr: adlai: they already do - but it's "hardcoded" because that's simpler
adlai: just let each running node choose [whether to, and] whom to filter
adlai: this doesn't need to be hardcoded precompilation
Luke-Jr: asciilifeform: there is a more long-term solution that would help the current case AND your proposed daily-changed-addresses case, which once implemented, I do plan to propose for mainlining
adlai: preferably through the QT interface because then I never have to know it exists
adlai: Luke-Jr: why not make a patch that lets people dynamically enter filters into a running, compiled, program?
BingoBoingo: Better places to fight monoculture.
adlai: that's true
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: so you'll surrender if opponent so much as lifts a finger in opposition? or do you have some 'round two' answer that doesn't involve centrally-controlled zap lists.
Luke-Jr: adlai: node operators are just outsourcing their decision-making to a central group of developers
adlai: the arms race having not yet picked up speed is not exactly an invitation to speed it up
Luke-Jr: adlai: for me, part of this isn't so much the spam filtering, as much as it is trying to combat monoculture
Luke-Jr: adlai: yes, there is - but they haven't done it yet
adlai: Luke-Jr: even if you succeed, you have admitted yourself that there are rather trivial ways for the entities you're trying to filter, to sidestep your filters
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: don't lie and say that it won't be a remote-updated kill list. because that's the only answer - other than surrender.
fluffypony: adlai: you should ask him how far his Tonal Bitcoin efforts went
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: let's suppose that we agreed with your 'blockchain environmentalism' philosophy, and wished to expell the dice men. say they start to switch addrs daily. what will you propose as a counter-attack?
adlai: you. personally. Luke-Jr. are wasting energy on this.
adlai: but the debate (no quotes needed, it's very real, otherwise you wouldn't be engaging it) is also a great waste of your energy
Luke-Jr: adlai: because the "debate" is run by trolls; the sane people have mostly been supportive once they learn what it's actually about
adlai: asciilifeform: well yes, this comment was aimed more at Luke-Jr
Luke-Jr: asciilifeform: that would make sense; people seem to assume something monumentally stupid is worthless, but in practice it isn't. ☟︎