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trinque: I don't care much about the presidency, but listening to Trump talk about how weak we look around the world, and having no qualms about being an asshole towards the rest of the machine, that's entertainment.
mats: hearing about the potus run secondhand makes me glad I don't waste cycles thinking about it
mircea_popescu: then derps go "o hello here is where you apologize" and the answer comes "no, this is where i'd fuck your mother, if her cunt didn't stink"
punkman hopes "megyn" isn't a name
mircea_popescu: "Even if you don't have any money of your own to scam, your data may well be of use to someone, and having your identity abused can mean trouble for you further down the line. So don't make it easy for the crooks - try to stick to sensible and cautious settings on your social media accounts, as far as the providers allow, and avoid sharing anything you wouldn't want the whole world to know."
BingoBoingo: Living in a shittier area would be more fun, but It's nice knowing that the whopping 20 blacks in town don't make this a target for DOJ purge agitation
shinohai: I live in a darker area than I'd like, but all-in-all it isn't bad.
shinohai: I recommended Debian because he obviously isn't quite experienced enough for Gentoo yet.
mircea_popescu: if only ubuntu weren't fucktarded we could recommend it to noobs. ☟︎
n6: trinque: my issue is i need an ethernet bridge to install gentoo and don't know how to do that.
shinohai: Pretty simple. Read logs. Don't ask people to help you do one thing, and do another. I have neither the time nor crayons for people like that.
n6: I don't see buildroot-asciilifeform-pogov4.patch in the list of files.
trinque: even if you end up with a working pogo, if you don't understand the steps which resulted in that, you've gained very little
n6: kakobrekla: I don't know what you mean.
trinque: yeah I don't need no stinking touch screen
trinque: other than that, don't care, and would rather not be obligated to carry one
trinque: buttons that aren't impossible would be nice
ascii_field: not like they don't all use approximately same chipset
punkman: the brick doesn't look too bad though, I don't think it's big
shinohai: But don't do it to us, we'll melt down like tumblrinas
n6: googling around it seems like I might need a cert but don't really understand what its asking for.
mircea_popescu: "you can take the girl out of the trash, but you can't take the trash out of the girl principally because she perceives all the alternatives are shit"
wywialm: Adlai, oh, i didn't even notice - thanks for that!
mircea_popescu: it just doesn't work that way.
mircea_popescu: looky here : copybook headings aren't gonna change through human effort. be it positive "har har, we're so good" or negative "har har, i'm a cynicist so this works now".
mircea_popescu: if you don't really want to do anything, go webcam.
mircea_popescu: ther problem with this is that the actual work keeps being pushed on things that can't actually do it.
mircea_popescu: they'll acknowledge it just as soon as they don't have an option.
mircea_popescu: so don't get liquidated.
mircea_popescu: if you find it doesn't match you got a good story for a blogpost.
punkman: compiling your own gpg won't fix your problem
n6: mircea_popescu: appstore dev tools 2.6gb and no progress bar. going for 6.4 off the website hope the command line tools just installed for later version don't fuck me.
n6: ascii_field: I'm install it from the app store.. they don't even have a progress bar hope its installing.
mircea_popescu: whitehouse you don't buy, you take.
n6: ascii_field: installed ports but still don't see path to gpg infact don't even see a "port" command used https://www.macports.org/install.php "OS X 10.10 Yosemite"
mircea_popescu: whenever you run across one of these "software projects" in bootstrap/qt/whatever the fuck tell them "This is not programming, this is hogramming. Be a pro, don't be a ho."
ascii_field: 'I'm positively _delighted_ that I can buy consumer products so cheaply and so conveniently, but -- get this -- I'm not in the business of making microwave ovens or wine glasses or books or speakers, but I _do_ expect those who _are_ to have professional tools, so I can buy consumer goods inexpensively with moderately high quality. I don't _want_ Joe Blows' Homemade Microwave Oven, OK?'
shinohai: If you have to ask "why check sigs" then I can't even begin ....
ascii_field: otherwise can't fathom how.
ascii_field: prolly didn't copy the config
shinohai: mod6 says it builds a binary but won't run. As soon as mine completes I'll confirm.
ascii_field: shinohai: i don't see an error
shinohai: Something like that, though I still can't make cross-compilation work. I'm not the wizard ascii_field is.
n6: let me rephrase, that doesn't make any sense sorry.
funkenstein_: Bundesministerium für Landesverteidigung und Sport <-- doesn't seem an obvious target of diddled crypto
cazalla: shinohai, a stay in hospital is pretty well subsidised here if you go public and don't mind the total lack of service, or you can go private (we don't really have pre-existing condition stuff here.. if you take out private health insurance, any pre-existing condition is covered after 12 months)
shinohai: It's cheaper for me to hire a private nurse. I get better care and don't have to be in a filthy hospital.
punkman: greece hasn't reach that level of ridiculousness yet, but all hospital supplies are way overpriced
BingoBoingo: <wilbns> BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do? << His body language, his carriage, when he does and doesn't express discomfort. Coincidences between Greenwald finding things out and things going to shit...
ben_vulpes: don't lie
phf: a build process tool, relaytool, used in some ungodly way to produce a dynamic libraries during build. uses bash to work and is so specified in #!... configure wants to run it by explicitly providing bash /bin/bash ./bin/relaytool. somehow doesn't detect bash, so calls /bin/sh instead, which puts bash in sh emulation mode and breaks relaytool. this, and much more, in todays adventures with eulora builds!
asciilifeform: it doesn't respond to incentives
asciilifeform: not sure if involved. at least in the usual sense. thing isn't a horse, or dog, more like a very ill-tuned piano
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but i mean... you wouldn't propose the alarm clock is a manager would you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eulora, conceivably, but i don't know enough about how it was built, and precisely by whom, and to what kind of outcome, to say anything interesting
asciilifeform: say, example of 'good management' in that sphere that doesn't, when you scratch it, reveal itself to be a case of programming-with-human-compilers
mircea_popescu: the proof of the fact that people with dayjobs can't manage are the dayjobs in question.
mircea_popescu: it shouldn't be MANAGED by them, however.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't speak for other distros, but the magic moment of gentoo beginning its slide into hitler's bunker is often said to be the time when the lead programmer went to work for microshit.
asciilifeform: hey, gcc doesn't expect to move.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a good idea incidewntally. if i ran the school, it'd be "this class fails 90% - if the teacher doesn't flunk that many we'll draw lots, but student body DOES get decimated one way or another"
mircea_popescu: i thot the vulgate is that lawyers aren't allowed on campus.
mircea_popescu: phf i don't get this lawyers thing tbh. nothing left of the 60s parisian uprising in the us ?
gernika: phf didn't see it in the list of updated formulas but the hash changed: b94bbf8834183935a1e03bd3736942e455a02e1c
phf: ben_vulpes, gernika: i just pushed another version. see if "pf/homebrew-eulora" is in brew update results. also it /should/ now use gcc-4.6 but who the fuck knows. rebuild if don't mind spending electricity, i'll continue reading homebrew source code
phf: homebrew on the other hand can be told "this thing doesn't build with GCC/llvm/clang such and such" but can't be told explicitly "build with this compiler", because!
phf: xcode comes with clang/llvm and a bogus llvm-gcc, which pretends to be gcc, except fails on all kinds of obscure flags, and certainly doesn't respect gcc semantics
williamdunne: phf: Objects aren't created in a very accessible manner. Simply received from an event
assbot: Logged on 09-08-2015 23:34:47; mats: https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8713
phf: i.e. you don't need to know about streams to use that function
mats: https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8713 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: rank nonsense. you can't "be made" a king.
mircea_popescu: (this is why the jp don't have the irght idea - the respect of they loath to insult is not worth the shit it's printed on)
asciilifeform: wouldn't surprise me if it means something like 'deep sea fish'
asciilifeform: just like a turd isn't normally given a name before flushing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall your observation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229166 ? i often have problems naming something that i strongly feel doesn't deserve a name ☝︎
trinque: in related news, my script works for both disk images and block devices; however, I need to figure out why the usb device isn't present at the time the initrd goes looking for root
mircea_popescu: orthogonal concern isn't it ?
mircea_popescu: phf we're feminists aren't we ?!
phf: i've met xach a few times at post-ilc pub sessions, i think he's doing lisp consulting for clozure, but yeah i don't really know the details. i think him, fare, etc. would dismiss this place on superficial grounds being self proclaimed feminists. last i checked fare's twitter it was an equal mix of lisp conversations and sjw rhetoric
asciilifeform: (xiah lee, don't expect to see anywhere. he literally ran out of money and went to wash dishes for minimum wage, and sold his computer iirc)
phf: williamdunne: rob warnock has a series of posts on how to use lisp effectively even if you don't have emacs running, i often find it a reasonable path for lisp novices, particularly when you don't want the complexity of emacs to get in the way of early explorations. http://xach.com/rpw3/articles/BJqdnd9R65ee3qDbnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d%40speakeasy.net.html, http://xach.com/rpw3/articles/PJudnYz2hfC-HQbYnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d%40speakeasy.net.html, http://
ben_vulpes: ah it ain't so bad
punkman: isn't it just 'object?
trinque: I'ms ure there's some pretty printer too; I haven't used it
williamdunne: I found this and got excited, until I realized that they haven't written all that much..
williamdunne: Yeah, seems pretty good so far. Only bummer is that all of the libraries I can take advantage of elsewhere don't really exist, and if they do they are entirely undocumented
trinque: you shouldn't even notice them
fluffypony: wouldn't it just be thcoopbot?
williamdunne: Although evidently he doesn't quite understand the concept of a private message yet
williamdunne: Scthoopbot isn't very inspiring at the moment. Just doing it as my hello lisp project
asciilifeform: imho ought to go in some kind of logical order - iirc most folks don't even have rotor working yet.
asciilifeform: won't work
asciilifeform: oh and don't every try to move'em
shinohai: I even didn't hate on him for that Stairway cver.
ag3nt_zer0: Dietrich Fischer Dieskau is the guy who cracked open the wonder of "classical" singing to me - Before him, I liked it, but didn't really feel connected to it in the same way that I was to sonic youth and nine inch nails haha... then I saw some videos of dieskau doing Schubert lierder and I was fuckiing blasted - the dude like physically changed into the different character of the song - and the lyrical sensibility of Schu
n6: I hate to ask for support in here again but gave up on lsub idea and reinstalled, now I can't get wireless working at all using cli, tried setting up a conf file becuase wpa_cli woudln't connect with wpa_supplicant but that didnt work. at a loss for where to go next on my quest for a source based distro.
asciilifeform: plus the phree usg condoms don't have fruit juices, built-in vibratory devices, and other nonsense
mircea_popescu: i don't get this.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure they'll make you whole, but if they don't you certainly can get a lawyer and sue them personally and u of maryland for joint and serveral liability.