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mircea_popescu: "The law, known as Section 377A, was retained in 2007 after a two-day debate in parliament where related provisions that made heterosexual oral and anal sex a crime were repealed."
mircea_popescu: in todays heretic tales, using bechamel sauce as a base for pizza instead of tomato sauce works fucking great.
gribble: Nick 'ben_vulpes', with hostmask 'ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'ben_vulpes', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
assbot: Scientists Have Discovered an Activity Just as Pleasurable as Sex, Drugs and Gambling - Mic
jurov: http://mic.com/articles/102494/scientists-have-discovered-an-activity-just-as-pleasurable-as-sex-drugs-and-gambling
mircea_popescu: money works the same way, there's us and there's reddit, and there's no real path for the redditard to get in the wot. sure, he could, but as the article says, "The small chip camera owner cannot cross the forbidden zone for 30 BTC reasons, and even if he did, he wouldn’t have the necessary skills."
asciilifeform: sometimes the death of a profession is not all smiles. i once saw a rant lamenting the invention of LaTeX as a terrible calamity for mathematics. argument was that, whereas it was once possible for mathematicians (and physicists) to remain entirely innocent of typograpy and its brute labours, now the typographers gave up and went home. and now you (maths folks) also are stuck being typographers - and generally, no
mircea_popescu: the more violently the better, as a general rule.
mircea_popescu: so, no, it's no longer a profession. it's dead as its own thing, no matter who does what to whom.
mircea_popescu: bounce anyway, so stated our dispute boils down to me saying that it is upon you either to present an outside criteria or else yield. (which is why i assumed your criteria is presented, and summarized it as "pre digital"). my point generally is that you can't present any meaningful criteria anyway.
mircea_popescu: jurov i bring as proof the difficulty real fags have in dating.
bounce: hmhm yet it's doing it, as a side effect of its market research and segmentation science.
mircea_popescu: not so many. just as many as poorly managed youth existed. it's a lengthy history full of gaps.
bounce: there's a market for hand-painted portraits just as there is a market for professionally-done photographs. the argument re the latter is that the marketeering is busily making the required machinery unaffordable. my point was the mechanism at work.
asciilifeform: 'responsibility sink' is simply my shorthand for any apparatus which lets you 'make a decision' without putting your arse on the line as decision-maker.
asciilifeform: claim is not a fact << when talking about a scam, the claim is the fact (that is, the fact of the scam being set up as such or other) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it cannot die for so long as so-called decision makers want their 'responsibility sink' mechanism.
mircea_popescu: bounce anyway, to summarize : the discussion as to whether a profession is doing ok or not, or even is still alive, can not rely on a discussion on they who call themselves followers.
mircea_popescu: i suppose since nancy reagan was hiring court astrologers the argument can be brought that the colonies were slower on the uptake, but be that as it may...
mircea_popescu: no, no. it was never important, as i measure it.
mircea_popescu: it has exactly no influence as i measure it.
mircea_popescu: actually dali should probably get mention as the chief marketing whore rather than those two. makes little difference anyway.
ben_vulpes: but when the codemachine could run just as easily on 60/year...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: the downside to an unlimited buy wall as a consulting shop is the imperative to eat through as much of it as possible in the time allotted <<< ever seen http://trilema.com/2012/cum-iti-negociezi-salariul/ ?
mircea_popescu: punkman: saint john of las vegas ? << think I've seen that, what's mp's take on it << i thought it was somewhat similar to dead man. just as totally fucking absurd and meaningless, but not unpleasant neveretheless.
gribble: Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
gribble: Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: whether someone thinks the sun comes out for their merits or for their sins is entirely their problem, as it were.
mircea_popescu: maybe pankkake tried to generate a bitcoin address, itcame out as 1systemdsux and his head explody
mircea_popescu: I wonder how many people hit on incredibly improbable but bothersome stuff like 1smallC0K or 1yoMOMMAisHO or 1JeSuSgAy w/e and as a result think bitcoin is evil and gather around the hater sites.
ben_vulpes: the downside to an unlimited buy wall as a consulting shop is the imperative to eat through as much of it as possible in the time allotted
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone taking bets on the name of the chick that informed mr fox as to the intricacies of the russian soul ? << even money on lolita
pete_dushenski: "So… You judge a society as successful if it has enough money for a vibrant arts scene but not enough to alleviate the effects of poverty? Call me crazy, but I don’t think the first of us started forming this grand experiment I call society just so we can finger-paint together." << lulzy contravex comment o' the day
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal thestringpuller people in l2. same as voice.
cazalla: <thestringpuller> slow news weekend <<< yup, i think the article as above are probably good for weekends
cazalla: used is ok, as long as it is not written by terrorists
mircea_popescu: saturday night tho ? ZERO! i don't mean, most of the fat ones with good business didn't bother, leav ing just a few of the sketchier, hungrier fellows. no, i mean exactly zero. as if saturday night is not a time. not part of the world. does not exist.
punkman: was same price as some Nestle shit, and not much sugar, not a bad deal
mircea_popescu: by looking at what scammers claim as part of their scamtext, you can guess what the general sea of idiots imagines is going on.
cazalla: so october is 1 month down for qntra, if anyone has criticism as well as feedback on what you liked/disliked and want to see more/less of, i'm all ears
mircea_popescu: are you aware that trade as-is is credit-supported so people don't actually need to put up even the actual value of the items ?
mircea_popescu: the problem are all the edge cases. did you catch that discussion in the logs, as to what localbitcoins is vulnerable to ?
mircea_popescu: anyway! this is how services such as localbitcoins work.
gernika: mircea_popescu So in a case where two parties have no information about each other (which is essentially the same as when one party is in the WoT and one isn't, or when one party wants to do a trade they're not rated for), a nash equilibrium allows a way to incentivize both parties to complete the transaction faithfully by forcing both parties to risk the value of the item being traded contingent on the trade being completed
mircea_popescu: you mean lolis as in freshman, 19yo womenz mats_cd03 ?!
mircea_popescu: "he fucked, like, a real woman" valley girl speak as opposed to "he fucked a real woman" nohomo bro speak
adlai reveals himself as having not even read the materials associated with ether
jurov: that's as good as anything
ben_vulpes: same reason as i; to practice writing under someone with a cane
ben_vulpes: then toured the states as a slam poet
mircea_popescu: i was going to send you a pack of biscuits, peanut for the dog, chocolate for the fox. none for you, ofcourse, as men don't need to eat. sadly thestringpuller doesn't seem ready to take orders still.
thestringpuller: Pierre_Rochard: Do people use that? It's really insecure as is.
mircea_popescu: 'd like a "day" name as a single line between the "home | log | search | bash | stats | wiki" and "prev/next" to be settable with an assbot command
BingoBoingo: Still not as fucked as the original submitter's time frame for resolving it... A month before the season ends.
gribble: Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitreserve-holds-your-bitcoins-as-fiat/
BingoBoingo: qntra.net/2014/10/bitreserve-holds-your-bitcoins-as-fiat/ from thestringpuller
Apocalyptic: it's probably not worth much as is
undata: adlai: half in here imagine themselves a mongol as they sit hunched over a keyboard
asciilifeform: ('usg' here should be read as the entire nato blok.)
asciilifeform: see the life of, e.g., leon theremin, to see that this does not always work as planned - but it is still the only thing that works.
undata: should the ruler not care about the continued breathing of the peasants, the peasants are best off making themselves as useless a burden to him as possible
thestringpuller: Random and off topic. Pierre_Rochard was telling me about a country whose economy was riddle with Ponzi Schemes to the point real businesses were losing value because the ponzi's outnumbered the real businesses. I think it's Albania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_schemes_in_Albania Maybe someone can help shed more light as he didn't know what the country was at the time.
mircea_popescu: anyway, any frustrated desire is as entitled as any other. once it satisfies itself so it's no longer a desire it will have gained its rightful death.
mircea_popescu: im not going as far.
mircea_popescu: you don't like the ulterior effects of socialism, but you do like some of the premises, such as "X for all", as in, "a future for all", "a chance for all" etc.
mircea_popescu: about as good science as krugman's economics or obama's peace.
asciilifeform: what modern folks think of as 'dictator' is really, (psychiatric observation) the name given to a fellow who tries to do the job of aristocrat without having been bred for the task (as in a woman who thinks she can fill in for a milk cow)
thestringpuller: jurov: well, chtuhlhu would certainly be "perceived as worthy" << unless someone like Cartman befriends him.
jurov: well, chtuhlhu would certainly be "perceived as worthy"
mircea_popescu: specifically, "What fucking plans ? Why does the dictator have to absolutely have some sort of plans, aforethought ? Maybe he’s a dictator in the proper sense, because his group perceived him as worthy. He didn’t go to them, like an obnoxious lawyer spawn, with a list of whatever items are fashionable - promises, intentions, qualities, college degrees - to ask to be made a dictator and thus have the gaping void and
asciilifeform: extant problem is not the overabundance of 'flies' (plenty of funded garbage in babylon as now) but the disappearance of 'cutlets'.
asciilifeform could point out that today's phd is not the same animal as james clerk maxwell's. but doubts that it needs saying.
undata acknowledges that a lot of people "doing it right" got smashed to pieces when the USSR collapsed as well
asciilifeform: the only thing inventor (artist, whoever) can do is argue to the arsonist that he'd be of more use as something other than firewood
mircea_popescu: and if putin keeps hammering him in the head all over the middle east, your scrip may be as good as the confederate's.
mircea_popescu: this is the quintesential broken approach. there's "food" as you're talking, there's "food" as he's talking.
asciilifeform: thing is, food (per se) is presently a mostly free ride, for so long as petrochemistry keeps trucking.
asciilifeform: 'inventor must be wealthy' works about as well as 'computer ought to be a cow.' wouldntitbenice.
asciilifeform: just as looking at a set of weights doesn't grow muscle.
mircea_popescu: just as terrible as well!
chetty: sadly as long as people keep looking for a 'ticket' this will continue
asciilifeform wasn't bottle-buddies with kepler, cannot attest as to the degree of enthusiasm with which he sucked the cock
asciilifeform: it is also worth thinking about what kind of cocks folks we regard as 'genuine article' had to suck, in their times, to stay fed. e.g., kepler's tours of duty as court astrologer.
mircea_popescu: just, as people stopped trying alchemy they rejected it, it's all therein contained.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform self-styled "regulators" love to whine pathetic about the "irresponsible risk seeking behaviours" of banks or whoever, conveniently omitting to mention that it's the disease of the system, it's what socialism necessarily breeds (through blindness), and that they themselves took some insane gambles. such as the 50 year "let's finance pseudoscience, who knows,\ maybe it pays off"
asciilifeform: ('lisp' as properly defined is not a programming language, but merely a catalogue of avoided mistakes in the construction of a programming language. see: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=405 )
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (not the literal qwerty, but the 'platonic' qwerty seen as the overall human failing where folks agree on buggy shit and then cement it in place through 'sunk cost') << fwiw i disagree with this assesment. english is broken because it's a commercial pigdin, language without a country. the old languages of yurp are actually fine, and to this day more powerful than any synthetic syntax.
asciilifeform: (not the literal qwerty, but the 'platonic' qwerty seen as the overall human failing where folks agree on buggy shit and then cement it in place through 'sunk cost')
mircea_popescu: adlai> we could define that the turd network doesn't count as output, since it's communication between computers and not output to the user <<< reading this sort of shit makes my head bleed
adlai: what languages would you count as broken?
asciilifeform does not regard quines as particularly interesting, because they are only a real challenge in retarded programming systems
adlai: we could define that the turd network doesn't count as output, since it's communication between computers and not output to the user
mircea_popescu: copy of its source code ~as its only output~
mircea_popescu: adlai it royally sucks as a "philosophy", or "economic theory", too.
asciilifeform: about as related as cats and sprats
adlai: "ATLAS SHRUGGED royally sucks as a novel, with cardboard characters, rivers of contrived coincidence and dialogue made of macaroni http://www.davidbrin.com/aynrand.html#sthash.1W0F9hdP.dpuf
asciilifeform: adlai: a riotously entertaining book, as thickasthieves might attest
mircea_popescu: as human history presently stands, the reality of such memory loss is actually supported