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phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705282 << i think empiricist, but also perhaps a mystic would be another alternative, i.e. knowledge through divine revelation. i think perhaps also traditionalist, i.e. inherent knowledge ☝︎
mircea_popescu: kanzure a ty. the reason i ask him is that i know him, you see. like in http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
mircea_popescu: 14:43 < kanzure> i was just going through "the list" in my head (i don't really have a list, i'm just making things up that sound important) << ehehehe. this is becoming very alike that seinfeld episode where they had an opposite world and there was an opposte alf named fenn and so on. THE RSMT!!!
mircea_popescu: kanzure> i wonder if people just signed their work with leibniz's name as a way to get it preserved << your reference points are pythagoras and perhaps
mircea_popescu: the original privateers were created through letters patent ; the meaning of the word there is very much in the vein of monarchical absolutism. it was later co-opted when industrial revolution folk wanted a way to claim transcendence for acts of commerce.
mircea_popescu: kanzure you are experiencing the following problem : you do ocr on old text, which produces ambiguities that bite you in the ass. yes the string "patent" can be found in medieval and early modern period documents. the item thereby denoted however is not a patent.
mircea_popescu: 12:23 < kanzure> there is a certain argument about not always throwing away legacy code, but i currently forget the exact argument << it was joel writing up netscape implosion.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:10 kanzure: phf: that sounds like something else. the lesswrong folx are moron navelgazers. yes it makes sense to "use thinking" but not if the output is just a pile of ponyfic and fearmogering.
asciilifeform: does it make sense to proclaim it a 'way of life' ?
asciilifeform: is a man whose sphincter still works, and who does not shit in pants, a 'sphincterist' ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:00 phf: but yes i still think that you're a rationalist, without quotes. i don't think you would object to it, i mean, if you go by definition (opinions and actions based on reason and knowledge) rather than "rationalwiki" "rationalist".
mircea_popescu: protective confines of your steel gift. They do want to, all of them do. Impediments, such as exist, all come from circumstantial happenstance, you have to be careful not to pinch their delicate skins putting it on -- and mind that for every inch of physical skin males have miles upon miles of mind-skins enveloping them like a far-reaching cocoon. Once on, you'll have to make sure it doesn't rub wrongly, and especially teach
mircea_popescu: "Every male you ever run into will be looking for an excuse, to explain to himself, and to "everyone else" as he represents that in his head, why he isn't doing, more, better, etcetera. You happen to have an exceptional answer, and one that he is extremely eager to receive from you. For this reason you are to expect no fundamental problems, it's not like you might run into a male that doesn't want to find himself in the safe,
mircea_popescu: consider http://trilema.com/2017/how-to-take-control-of-your-provider-a-guide-for-whores/#selection-181.0-185.907
mircea_popescu: very much a case of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687603 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway. it is a plain example of "bitcoin corrupts" at work.
asciilifeform: i can't comment, having not even a faint clue
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 03:59 mircea_popescu: pro tip : nobody has any incentive to help fucktarded nobody on a stick keep his unearned and unwarranted claim to importance.
asciilifeform: but find a californirast who does not believe himself master of all culture
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even false, i dunno there's much worth reading in english. i mean one can be done with twain and shakespeare in a summer.
mircea_popescu: i can't. it's as incomprehensible to me as the girls. a boy that dun wanna fight, really ? exactly like a girl that dun wanna fuck, i look at these like a dog looks at a painted bone. "nice work i guess lol. but..."
asciilifeform: so he answers 'show me FUN!! things, your work is a snore, nobody's flying to alpha centauri on it'
mircea_popescu: if it's the case that "here's this list of 200 primes which popped 2000 moduli", then we should make a histogram of moduli per prime.
mircea_popescu: and often it announces a p and a p'!
mircea_popescu: a speaking of which asciilifeform i was meaning to ask, seeing how they keep popping in pairs : how many times as a % of cases is that when we pop a modulus we pop it for BOTH p and q ?
asciilifeform: very easy to kneel to the majesty of nsa, when you skipped kindergarten and have nfi how to find q given a p...
mircea_popescu: a recall the gazelle and cheetahs scenes ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to a large degree yes.
mircea_popescu: kinda why literature was a thing in 1700 france ; was not a thing in 1900s us.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:35 mircea_popescu: because the political power is a super-2 exponential on smarts, whereas cost is a logarithmic on stupidity, it's very easy to be powerful hanging out with smart people. almost as easy as it is to go bankrupt hanging out with many people.
mircea_popescu: goes right back to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704371 ; it's very easy as an author to write great books -- write books that only appeal to the intelligent and get a free ride on your reader's backs. ☝︎
asciilifeform: a few of them were , sadly, by herbert
mircea_popescu: right. which is why in my mind it's represented as a sort of you know, moon. "you can't reboot the machine without knowing what it's doing"
mircea_popescu: ie, like a very beautiful girl ; not like a very well trained $sport boy.
asciilifeform: ( a more refined variant of the real-life 19th c profession of 'calculator' )
mircea_popescu: yes, but in a mystical rather than artisanal sense
asciilifeform: original was entertaining. mentat was a sort of artisan, humancalculator-rationator.
mircea_popescu: yes, i did read the original coupla books, as a 15yo boy.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 13:24 phf: but i think it was cool as a kind of roleplay toy "learn all these tricks and you'll be just like a mentat from dune"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704886 << my understanding of " a mentat from dune" was "a guy who takes a lot of showers", rather than what i discovered later was the general us view on the matter, "guy who does lots of xword puzzles". i have nfi where that typically 80s idea "xword puzzles make you smart" came from. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Those things are fun. Like a morbidly obese golf cart.
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Well, sometimes a big oem doesn't make a truck that quite exactly fits your job or your site
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 10:14 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1703826 <-- aha. wouldn't surprise me if profiling were possible from "sandboxed" js, a la https://arxiv.org/pdf/1507.06955.pdf or similar attacks
mircea_popescu: no, it was very much a supermarket forklift, plain and simple
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Well, cheap used forklifts are like anything else. There's collector's markets, enthusiast clubs, and modding hobbyists. Though mebbe you'd picked up a cheap one.
kanzure: BingoBoingo: i unloaded the FIB from a trailer, if that's what you mean.
mircea_popescu: kanzure is this a girl one of yours ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:39 kanzure: you could safely argue it would look like a plot of the sha256 function against a graph, but i would also be surprised to hear that
BingoBoingo: trinque: How is the ongoing weather? Perhaps submit a piece on that if reallity differs from what is on tv?
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> yea had to get a forklift to move this thing << Do you still have forklift? What kind, is it for sale?
shinohai: "I put all my mETH on a rooted Google pocket surveillance device, how could it possibly all be gone?" http://archive.is/sL9Rj
kanzure: illiteracy does not seem to be a serious concern around here ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and for so long as 1 honest unit exists, for yoke test -- to even a child, working with bare hands )
asciilifeform: if you substitute a chip that shits out prng stream, in place of the transform specified in http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/fg-genesis.vpatch -- it will be immediately obvious to anyone who follows my audit recipe.
asciilifeform: ( it's a cpld, to be pedantic. )
kanzure: are you willing to accept sufficiently shit fpgas? you can do something like massive buffering of the bitstream and then do analysis to check for known circuits in a lookup table :\.
asciilifeform: ( which expects, e.g., a TB output, known only to the auditor )
a111: Logged on 2017-02-24 02:36 asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.'
kanzure: anyway what was the goal, i thought it was established that circuit was insufficient, given doping layer trojans (yes there was a follow-up article but it was dumb)
trinque: "goal" is being used as a placeholder for the macro-expanded version which lines up the causes ☟︎
asciilifeform: kanzure: mp insists that he 'has no goals', but i've got a few. one of them, is a 100% nato-free workstation comp. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( and yes, i am no stranger to buying surplus instruments. but they only SEEM cheap. what if you needed 25 of them ? or a guarantee that they continue to work for six months, without major interruption ? then welcome back to seven-figure list price. )
kanzure: yea had to get a forklift to move this thing
kanzure: i bought a FIB recently btw. have you played with one?
asciilifeform: i'd buy a desktop atomic force microscope, say.
asciilifeform: plenty of unsolved technical problems, of the 'yes, golden toilet from lockheed exists, but how about a human-priced version that pisses on patents and 'property''
kanzure: that's a reasonable request. i'll make catalog. ☟︎
asciilifeform: electroporator is trivial, i can get surplus one or make own for a hundy
kanzure: apparently you forgot the reason why i entered. i had a question and it has been answered ("nah we only do noise- it's intentional though, so it's okay to be worthless.")
asciilifeform: take a fat, greasy shit right into the mouth of 'intellectual property', 'bioethics', misc. retardations.
asciilifeform: if -- as i understand -- you're a money man, kanzure , what the hell are you still doing in the heart of the shitreich ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: diode could take over in hobbyist niche, if 30W diode didn't cost same as 100W tube. ( 30w cutter is a toy, fit only for carving porn into wooden planks )
kanzure: this is sounding more and more like a market. there's even demand. hmm.
shinohai: This is a single achievement btw .... asciilifeform is responsible for `V` which I also consider a product.
asciilifeform: other than a usgcomplianceshitcoin.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704931 << i designed, make, and sell, a physical product, kanzure . what do you sell ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: so not sure what is the improvement, other than a slightly less-breakable setup.
kanzure: like i said, this all seems like a bunch of noise. you're welcome to haphazardly flounce around but at least be honest with as much.
kanzure: prefering solid state lasers to co2 tubes is not a crime. but you're welcome to chase ancient tech.
asciilifeform: or... 15:26 <@fenn> now this may sound radically radical, but why not just use a metal tube << this and elsewhere, demonstrates that any and all of these people, are innocent of having ever worked with their hands, or studied so much as kindergarten experimental physics, chemistry, take yer pick
asciilifeform: even i have a working co2 setup. and i'm not even '1%'.
asciilifeform: 15:06 < kanzure> uh, my complaint about lasers isn't about the laser itself, but rather the optics usually associated (or, in cases where i need to maintain a co2 tube, i also mean co2 tubes)
asciilifeform: kanzure: you've been doing this since... '07? or when. what do you and the platoon of talkers have to show for it ? where is the desktop-biolab-on-a-chip ?
asciilifeform: 17:12 < justanotheruser> sounds like what a scientist would do if he became a 1%er
asciilifeform: 17:12 < justanotheruser> kanzure: because you buy stuff for a bunch of people on IRC in the name of science
kanzure: phf: that sounds like something else. the lesswrong folx are moron navelgazers. yes it makes sense to "use thinking" but not if the output is just a pile of ponyfic and fearmogering. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 02:59 asciilifeform: 'can't use bitcoin PERIOD' unless you have a proper, honest motherfucking node, with ALL the blocks' is the Right Thing.
phf: but yes i still think that you're a rationalist, without quotes. i don't think you would object to it, i mean, if you go by definition (opinions and actions based on reason and knowledge) rather than "rationalwiki" "rationalist". ☟︎
phf: but i think it was cool as a kind of roleplay toy "learn all these tricks and you'll be just like a mentat from dune" ☟︎
phf: there was a wiki in 2005 or so, called "mentat wiki". i think it was cool not so much for the content as the premise. it was supposed to be a collection of techniques for memory recall, arithmetic, problem solving, that sort of stuff.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1703826 <-- aha. wouldn't surprise me if profiling were possible from "sandboxed" js, a la https://arxiv.org/pdf/1507.06955.pdf or similar attacks ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: and wd on the half dolla a day huh.
BingoBoingo: in trouble seems heartless to me. She’s much more politically active than I am, and I finally asked if she did that to avoid the possibility of giving money to someone who voted for Trump, and she admitted that was one of the reasons. I think that’s awful, and we’ve been fighting about it ever since. She thinks as a gay woman I should see her side, but I just can’t."
mircea_popescu: kanzure recommend a coupla good log days in your estimation if you will.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform saw the lulzy part where superficial fenn correctly identifies usg as "a bunch of neonazis that want to gas everybody except themselves" ?
asciilifeform: pretty sure that the curative asteroid would also leave behind a few blind,deaf crapple campus janitor, to tell tale.
mircea_popescu: 16:53 < nmz787> hmm, there's a new biotech thing starting on the floor below genspace (or at least where genspace was) << i wonder if this sorta thing ever gives them any pause.
mircea_popescu: yeah. complete ablation not the way to go, even the mongols left a blind and a deaf man to tell the story.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-27 20:03 mircea_popescu: the stupid cunt universally depicted in movies comes from the boston common, a one square mile area of little distinction.
asciilifeform: pretty much all of nerve center of derpistan is a few square km, today just as it was in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-27#1703758 . ☝︎