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Framedragger: btw this is such $s il n'y a pas de hors-texte
Framedragger: i'll have to re-do the whole dates/times thing anyway once i move to postgres, which i want to do anyway
Framedragger: phf: ...yeah. i wanted to switch to utc so changed environment settings for when it next restarted and then it restarted sooner than expected. SUCH ENGINEERING :/
Framedragger: i guess it has a socialist bent to it - i thought - noobs won't read actual logs so might as well quote what's actually needed; and, it is useful for when it's just a couple of lines. but it does add to the thickness of logz.
Framedragger: regarding readability, yah /me prefers phf's html too, i think :D i'll see about it after more important things are taken care of; but it's prolly good to have different designs, too.
Framedragger: of course a mutual recursive *chain* could maybe be constructed....
Framedragger: believe it or not bot writers (scriba just piggybacks on a general bot) think about these things, sometimes :p
Framedragger: (if same irc nick invokes same line multiple lines that line won't be repeated foreva; so there's that)
Framedragger: i'm not sure regarding explicit list of bots for each bot for good citizenry / collaboration purposes, but as phf said his bot already does that, kinda.
Framedragger: ah! lol. in relation to mutual recursion, scriba won't repeat same line forever, fwiw; it will switch to "..."; but mutual destruction hasn't been empirically tested, so heh.
Framedragger: in other news, znc took more time to reconnect upon connection failure than i want it to take. gonna improve things.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: (fair enough, i understand your viewpoint here)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah...fuck. lol. RCE possible. good times
Framedragger: that's a ridiculous slippery slope; street thieves also run private business enterprises in that respect, i suppose
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: absolutely. and at the same time you can understand why a bunch of people do not intend to hold any money with you ("these people have money?!" - mp laughs), because even if the "ban" is legit, it doesn't exactly inspire things.
Framedragger: se of the gpg contract, but that's separate, too, i guess
Framedragger: wasn't the whole point of it that kako disagreed of you attempting to charge bbet money for spending money twice (ironically, zero fee tx will be more difficult with no block size increase - which i'm against, too). that this was not in the gpg contract. so he did not sign bbet statement. and then bbet proceeded to be liquidated. you also disabled his mpex account for an unsigned comment on qntra or wherever which did not breach any clau
Framedragger: asciilifeform: this is prolly again one of those "mind" things
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: don't disagree with your characterization. but i don't think the "entirely and unmitigatedly wrong" is objectively / necessarily the case. mining konspiracy, i don't know, mircea. but at this point i'm too out of the loop for the "i" to be mean anything here.
Framedragger: totally sure it was meant with "mind". it's kinda gotten out of hand and is imho not constructive; i mean, to keep to this narrative but not put it into (coherent stream of) words
Framedragger: my frustration with kako is that he doesn't think it's worth the time to write up a coherent narrative from his point of view. i'm sure it'd be useful to have it. maybe it's because it's impossible to have one in that case; maybe not; i for one don't fucking know
Framedragger: ftr i haven't made up my mind and a man is more complex than just a binary state machine
Framedragger: punkman:flimflams: "oops flushed the orderbook again", "oops mispaid dividends again", "HELLO I AM THE CEO OF BITCOIN, HERE IS THE BITCOIN EXAM, oh what do you mean btc addresses don't keep a balance?" "it's not socialized losses, it's btc cartelisation research" "you were being an asshole so I banned your mpex account"
Framedragger: "the only possible explanation is that not all of it contributes to the narrative he wants to build."
Framedragger: "i'm more curious re kakobrekla's motivation for withholding any of the info."
Framedragger: asciilifeform:pankkake: the 'can't admit being wrong' thing is quite true, and whether you can afford dealing with mptronics, is very personal matter. so i do not actually disagree, as such, with pankkake.
Framedragger: you know, i recall shitty philosophy students dissing entire philosophical works by just calling them "platonic". can't really do justice by generalizing like that, can you now
Framedragger: i want to try trinque's bot, too, but setting up sbcl etc and making sure things are reliable will have to wait for laters
Framedragger: btw ftr i want to thank punkman for recommending sopel bot (previously willie, if anyone's heard of it) as the core irc bot to be used. it's properly maintained, has clean code and good docs.
https://sopel.chat/ Framedragger: incidentally, how would one go about doing development across branches in V? or is that fiat fancy to be banished from all that is good? :)
Framedragger: (sorry about log spam - i'll fork the bot into a development branch (new features and bugfix tests) which will run on a separate test channel.)
Framedragger: phf: thanks for adding scriba btcbase log's list of bots btw
☟︎ Framedragger: right, off to watch film, will monitor things.
Framedragger: process managed by upstart, will restart if needed etc. let's see if it pisses people off :p
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ahh nice. (and now i recall you mentioning this before - some log memory in mind FINALLY ha)
Framedragger: heh, yeah. (though, plenty of chinese IoT crap out there, too)
Framedragger: ...but maybe instead of reliability they offer you push notifications to your Android CNC App (tm), and share buttons to social networks?..
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-06#1535099 << (probably on some superficial level) this reminded me of a film i recently watched at airport: "elena" (2011, zvyagintsev). it's a pretty good film (nothing extraordinary), i think, and i recommend it. i don't have a particular intuition but i suspect that elena's relationship to her husband may pique mircea_popescu's interest, and he'd have words about elena
☝︎ Framedragger: which still makes it interesting :) but yeah ok
Framedragger: i recall someone attempting an implementation / spec of this 'everyone has their own currency' thing. just with wot being less central to it, perhaps
Framedragger: asciilifeform: multidimensional in what way? simply that it'd have many parameters; or that there'd be many cliques / 'issuers' / whateva?
Framedragger: (i meant, one shared factor between three places)
Framedragger: my english is not sophisticated enough to mediate a genuine point of curiosity *without* any implied frustration whatsoever
Framedragger: (is deedbot no longer relaying new phuctorings?)
Framedragger: [testing more encoding madness for logs, plz ignore: Вопрос]
Framedragger: i'm sure you're right, no bot would have survived. wonder if you could use sth like fastnetmon (if it can eat your logs or if you can format them accordingly?) to analyse the DoS / sql attack further..
Framedragger: [oh, and there's an off-by-one error in the bot - ahem. will fix]