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mircea_popescu: you can't go around simply solving the most general case of everything. precisely because such a thing
as closed system exists.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 13:25 mircea_popescu: "Put another way, grep sells out its worst case (lots of partial matches) to make the best case (few partial matches) go faster. How treacherous!
As this realization dawns on me, the room seemed to grow dim and slip sideways. I look up at the Ultimate Unix Geek, spinning slowly in his padded chair, and I hear his cackle "old age and treachery...", and in his flickering CRT there is a face reflected, but it's my ex girl
mircea_popescu: see, engineers are worse than whores. a whore might pretend like she's not working, but an engineer does inept shit like "/* This should optimize out, but it is wise to make sure this assumption is correct. Should these have different sizes, we cannot cast between them and the overlaying onto ERRATIC will not work. */" so
as to ~pretend~ like he doesn't see WHY exactly he wants to take that code out. seriously, ooga-booga-bu
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but
as a factual matter -- object files end up a few mb, and they're not 100% symbol by mass. you jsut can not have this many.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but you see it
as an improvement because you perceive it forces their hands down the right path, whether they want to or not. it's a rapeprovement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not do it properly then, get rid of symbol clashing
as a concept altogether, let everything be the last thing it was and be done with it.
mircea_popescu: and in likbez-mp : can anyone explain "weak symbols"
as a concept to me without making it sound like a hack ?
mircea_popescu: nt that does the exact same thing, but will resolve to the same library
as implements __register_frame_info_bases. */
mircea_popescu: (
as reported by diddled buyers of biotexcom organization of reproductive medicine)
a111: Logged on 2014-01-16 04:40 asciilifeform: "Sewers caused all our troubles. The masses of this country are not like your Americans, nor even like the British. They are slave stock. They are good for nothing but slaves and only when they are used
as slaves are they happy. But we, the decent people, made the mistake of giving them modern housing in the cities where we have our factories. We put sewers in these cities, sewers which extend right down to the
mircea_popescu:
as per the "this is the shop where we don't have talapia. the shop where they don't have salmon is down the street"
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 00:53 asciilifeform: they're
as diff
as x86 an' x64
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see, the cardboard "entrepreneurs" don't exist in the us like in the orcistans,
as named individuals. they're named... legal persons.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 14:33 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624146 << alpha was already half-dead when hp swallowed compaq, in '02. iirc compaq shitburied it in '01 and sold all rights to intel, who proclaimed the arch now known
as 'itanic'
as its replacement.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-15 18:36 asciilifeform: this, note, is ~still~ a bug ( or , worse, aarch64 dun know how to longjmp-task ? i.e. not implemented ? ) and will have to be cured. but
as i undestand diana_coman is currently interested in x64.
mircea_popescu: (for thread completness : dood's a "crypto skeptic" for the simple reason that i told 'em to get in back in 2011, when ro speakers were going through a phase of our-homegoat-just-
as-good-
as-mp's-mercedes, and so of course they "knew better" then. romanians are dumb enough to get locked into these permamently, just like any other rural morons.)
mircea_popescu:
as a smart woman once said, "to have fun you need to organize it". i know, cuz i wrote her.
diana_coman: fwiw yesterday I had in parallel this recompile task going too, but all sorts of stuff going with it so it's still ongoing (and apparently I'll have afterwards to write-it up
as well, on top of the sjlj data )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no dude,
as she points out, it's eulorism avant la lettre.
mircea_popescu: precisely through same process
as yielded here, timings for serpent etc, there's readily recognizable meta-structures
mircea_popescu: in no case do i know of anyone who has actual data re such things
as "ok, so manual claims, but NUMBERS for this penalty"
mircea_popescu: well, i won't trust my own understanding of asm and contemporary cpus
as far
as i can throw it ; but if indeed the operands in zcx impl were slower, you'd see it take less time!!!1
diana_coman: I'm atm doing the inventory of ave1's versions of gnat scripts and apparently even 2018-05-29 relies on downloading stuff that meanwhile moved/vanished
as they always do; moreover, I have the darned stuff , now need to figure out how to cut out the download and just point the script at local source, ugh
mircea_popescu: the observation that perhaps sjlj is not actually
as tightly optimized
as zcx is trying to percolate through my brain
diana_coman: in other things, re
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894896 -> this should now be fully sorted i.e. IP change for dianacoman.com propagated
as far
as I can see + redirection working fine for any link so please let me know if you still encounter trouble with any dead links; if you use only hosts (no DNS) then simply adding dianacoman.com on same IP
as ossasepia should work seamlessly
☝︎ mircea_popescu: diana_coman can we do with 2 and 3 extra handlers
as a bonus plox ?
diana_coman: i.e. same
as above with Max at 16.77mn (but real X at 22.36mn) without sjlj -> 0.9s
mircea_popescu: a cool. ok, so 22mn takes 1.25 s i'd say it's in the zone, and we're good
as such.
diana_coman: right;
as soon
as mircea_popescu confirms the code is what he wanted, will do
diana_coman: ftr with exception handlers the main trouble is simply that the sjlj overflows the stack very quickly; so far not
as much any clear difference in *speed* but certainly a difference in stack space used
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 07:40 diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-14#1896320 -> hm, trinque, do you suspect it's really just down to V version? I can easily re-run the thing with a V pressed to same node
as yours to rule that out, if that's the case
mircea_popescu: consider the math : i go out to eat, i eat at $100 a plate joint. i go out for a show, or a bender, or a casino trip, or what have you, i come back thousands lighter. meanwhile what's your living space, 100 sqm ? 1000 sqm ? you'll get fucking lost in an acre, really. with modern insulation what's the lossage, a few cents a day ? how THE FUCK will you care so much about the cent
as to go cold rather than use electricity, while
mircea_popescu: anyway, re above trends : there's a very visible trend in energy generation away from low quality and towards high quality. this means absolutely a move away from everything and into nuclear.
as nuclear increases and fossils drop, the outlook will significantly change -- eg in romania i'd have not even considered heating on any other premise than natgas ; bathroom had eg towel rack consisting of hot water pipes and other such
mircea_popescu: it seems to me premature yet. on my judgement, there was a lot of optimisim at the chump level re obama's bullshit electro-rooves. that will have to blow over,
as it was a scam. consumer market will reel a while in disdain-distrust of "such nonsense".
mircea_popescu: except
as per teh "three ring binder" theory, it doesn't actually require anything besides their being made.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 16:54 asciilifeform: ( i'ma take mircea_popescu's word for 'they are available to konsoomer' , evidently currently worth slightly moar
as chump bait than
as ore )
mircea_popescu is more than welcoming criticism / commentary from experts ;
as far
as my lights see, we have in fact checked that documented penalty and found it missing in practice.
mircea_popescu: but there is no such thing
as a TRULY unhandled exception. either it hoses the box or else it goes to the default handler.
diana_coman: being starter, I preferred not to force a choice there; but at any rate, if the previous node is basically broken
as I gather that's certainly a problem
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 03:04 trinque: I still want to know whether your genesis.vpatch matches mine, and this is at least
as important
as whether it produced a bootable drive
mod6: and if alf's way seems like a sane thing to try, that's what I'm working on now. otherwise, I'm all ears and can adjust
as you see fit.
mod6: I'll try to do this the way that #t sees fit. but, on my own, left to my own decision making (
as I don't know much about these things) might be a bit askew.
mod6: Ok, I see this
as distinctly differnt.
mod6: Maybe we're talking past eachother a bit here. Anyway, I don't know much about these things. I'm kinda learning bit by bit
as I go... it all certainly doesn't "fit in head" or whatever yet.
mod6: If going through all the motions to try to figure out what the actual hardware problem is, and it'll get me across the finish line, great. I'll do that, but I think you're acting
as if I'm somehow trying to violate you.
trinque: I still want to know whether your genesis.vpatch matches mine, and this is at least
as important
as whether it produced a bootable drive
☟︎ mod6: *nod* it's something dumb
as fuck
mircea_popescu: i'd like a purpose made item, fit in head
as such, can keep for later.
mircea_popescu: "what goes through a fly's mind
as it crashes on windshield ?" "its arse".