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asciilifeform: aite. ( there's a still-appreciable population of folx who actually go in for 'wet computer' nonsense. )
mircea_popescu just counted, trilema (articles only) stands at 10`631`726 words. this excludes my comments there and of course whatever my share of the log's 2mn lines (ie about what, a further 20-30mn words ?) is. ☟︎
phf: the wisdom of this joke is lost on me. though past few days the joke that's on my mind the most is, the one about shtirlitz: borman i shtirlitz pyut vmeste. borman govorit, "shtirlitz, a ved vi yevrey!" "Net!" govorit shtirlitz "Ya russkii!!!"
asciilifeform: he mentioned something about a funeral. ( in 2 month from now ! i've nfi )
shinohai: Actual item from newsfeed: "How a leader can move forward without consensus"
mircea_popescu: anyway. people are way the fuck worse at science than they are at politics ; and women ESPECIALLY so. but the general population sucking is not a reason to ignore the field.
phf: mircea_popescu: i actually think we had a thread. activity is either happening, and thus further cultivated (i.e. doers encouraged, talkers are shed, whatever the method), or else there's nothing happening at all. in a sense that you can't draw your pistol faster than your draw speed, so there's nothing really to worry about. i ~suspect~ that there's just no effective culling happening
mircea_popescu: anmyway, on the strength of what you presented you got a few k's worth of go away money there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usgistic 'memberships' ( and this case was no exception ) routinely contain a 'we can do WHATEVER the fuck we feel like, incl. throw you out by the ears' clause.
BingoBoingo got a speeding ticket earlier this month. In ~two weeks there is a hearing on motions and discovery
asciilifeform: asciilifeform lives next to a large reservation for these creatures. lab that makes usg-approved, 'law-abiding' drones; ic fab which makes safely-useless rubbish; electron microscope where asciilifeform is not invited within cannon's breadth, even for money; etc
mircea_popescu: "Why is the FBI focused on the amateur side, and such a higher risk or higher threat from people coming out of the more traditional sciences?" << because people coming from "traditional" are already neutered.
mircea_popescu: yes. and what a lulz that was.
asciilifeform: the beginning, we wish to continue the conversation and use this as an exchange of information, so I would say that amateur biology on the stage from the FBI's perspective should not be perceived as us taking the community seriously from a threat or security perspective, these are the whitehats in this room. It's our goal that we operate safely and securely to identify those blackhats if they are out there. .... we're from DNA 2.0. W
asciilifeform: 'FBI question, not biocurious... there's 30k or 40k people getting PhDs in biology, and 100s of people in amateur biology. Why is the FBI focused on the amateur side, and such a higher risk or higher threat from people coming out of the more traditional sciences? Nathan: Well, we're not a one trick pony. We have a lot of assets dedicated to academic biosecurity outreach. We have established such a great relationship with DIYbio from
mircea_popescu: (likbez : the result of microscopy is a set, of levels, that are not numbers in the proper sense. consequently you wish to see a list of them, but can not do implicit color conversions such as blue+yellow = green, because color #45 the microscope saw has nothing to do with #65 or #72)
mircea_popescu: this way you actually have a de facto lossless, and rather useful, microscopy remote format.
mircea_popescu: you don't want the "color levels" nonsense of bitmap/jpeg family. you want the gif palette, and a clearly explicit mapping to the electron microscope output.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course it's not a 'proper' ray! It's a DEATH ray! No reason to be polite
asciilifeform: 'GMO is not allowed unelss you have a certified lab. The chief of the fire department institute, it's called CDDBTK (what?), but we have a positive dialog about when to file they will give us permission apparently to do GMO work. '
mircea_popescu: so not a proper ray!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo bullet may have a waveform associated with it, but it's trivial!
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> aaactually deathray is one of the few items that stayed quite the same since 1890. << Nah, now they jacket the mass of lead atoms with a different metal
asciilifeform: phf: can't permit a doingnothers-gap!11
asciilifeform: it was in a trilema
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall that time when somebody wrote in and asked mircea_popescu to 'lend him a gurl' ?
asciilifeform: 'What about if we just block all possible ways to do this? We could block the production of any of these dangerous things? We could have someone decide. But it would also block legit things, and people will work around it. Another thing we could do- we plan to introduce blocks of some sort, but we don't have a plan for how those blocks will work. '
mircea_popescu: < kanzure> jrayhawk_: would you be willing to host a microscope? responsibilities would include keeping it plugged in and internet connected. also there would be an irc bot that controls where it looks. you'd also be pestered to load samples periodically. << did this 2014 idea ever get implemented ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: couplea shades ~below~. you couldn't stay in business as a vacuum repairman with this type of empty skullcase.
mircea_popescu: not a fucking clue, just bumbling idiots barely a shade above the herd they supposedly shepherd through "Science!!"
mircea_popescu: you know, it started with this 80s "judges are not to wear their capes in kid court lest the implicit, intended majesty of office scares children". then the "slightly aloof" but totalluy "genius" uni professor occured in the 90s. he spoke like a dork deliberately.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wouldja argue with a Berkeley Professor ?!111
mircea_popescu: let's go back to the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691201 lulz for a moment here. ☝︎
asciilifeform: all this international trade of drugs? You can't make any of the drugs we have right now in a clandestine way. You have to have giant tanks, or fields of poppeye. I have no idea what the effects of this are, but I think they are probably really big.'
asciilifeform: ake this methcoli. Maybe she thinks it's about French culture, and then it grows in her intestines, and she gets either really high or really dead. This is a rusty nails situation. There is a risk that is not intuitively related to what you were doing. This is what scares me. Somehow you have to mitigate that risk. There's also the drug thing with geopolitical consequences of being able to make drugs easily. Right now, why do we have
asciilifeform: 'But I am more concerned about drugs, like methamphetamine. I think meth might be easy to synthesize at biologically active quantities with existing technologies. Why is this a problem? I'm not into drugs myself, but there are dangers. They are probably going to do it with a $40 yogurt maker, you do the engineering in a yeast... then there's a problem. This is someone who .. thoroughly deskilled at this point. It takes no effort to m
mircea_popescu: i said "Crack whore has a couch" not "crack whore will never light her couch on fire"
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> just dumping this rare element overboard for no reason other than we don't feel like keeping it anymore << speaking of He, it's pretty much the only material in which usg has a monopoly. china and to some degree russia own the rare earths/heavy metals, but teh u7s got teh heliumz.
BingoBoingo: kanzure: See http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/
asciilifeform: 'The question was asked if you guys would sell.. if you guys ordered with a DIY scientist, not affiliated with an academic lab, someone said- not DNA2.0- or IDT.. yeah, maybe it was IDT. I'm not remembering that because, if you are a bonafide science doing bonafide work. What does that mean? It means you're not on the exclusion list, and it means you're not a bad actor....'
asciilifeform: ublished work on bioterrorism stuff. Bonafide researchers in academic institutions are (aren't?) on the list. We've only had one circumstance where we had someone we chose not to sell to, and we referred to the FBI in 10 years of business. It's not a huge practical issue, but it doesn't take a lot of mistakes.'
asciilifeform: 'I would consider it irresponsible to sell a potentially dangerous composition of matter to someone who you don't know or haven't met. It's just bad judgement. Most of the people on that list are either folks with a history of exclusion for various fraudalent activities, either domestically or internationally, or people who might potentially being terrorists kinda environment, or folks who have published in North Korea, or who have p
mircea_popescu: "If you are using city water, filter it. If you are using a closed circuit flow system, check the water and change it every six weeks or so, or drop a few drops of Algaecide in the recirculator. Better yet, use diluted Dow Frost. << howling shits, who uses anything but prop glycol for this ?! srsly, water ? you spring 20 bux for your car, but want the laser free ?
asciilifeform: 'For example, National Institutes of Health database which has a great list of compounds and sequences that are suspect, it's wonderful to do searches against it. But you're not allowed to do them during the business day because it puts too much pressure on their servers, so you're supposed to do that after hours.' << ahahahahaha
gribble: Error: "#s" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why the pantsuit actually thouight clinton is a star or at least star material.
mircea_popescu: "Weclome to the conference. I am the local WMD coordinator for the SF division. I've been working with the biocurious folks in SV. Welcome to SF, you guys have a great time, the weather is fantastic." in other lulz.
kanzure: so for at least a ~year many of us had regular "coffee meetings" with local area special agent
mircea_popescu: kanzure i can't discern much from this wall of links. can i have a three sentence summary ?
mircea_popescu: o hey, at least its not a pdf.
kanzure: ultrasound imaging requires a prescription in the usistan (sorry i forget your pet name)
mircea_popescu: a there is that.
kanzure: wheelchairs, can't build a wheelchair according to 'em
asciilifeform: kanzure: join doesn't put the people who were talking, magically back, and you folx don't appear to have a culture of linking to logz (or mechanism for handily pointing at individual lines)
kanzure: turns out the fda regulates a lot of things
mircea_popescu: kanzure a, whjat's that 5 times about ?
mircea_popescu: how not ? it's a thing, silly name but i spoke it yest. lessee
mircea_popescu: kids do it all the time, "i have a professional tennis racquet, just like agassi". it's ok for a 15yo.
mircea_popescu: this notion that "if i pile up enough blue items to make a bower i'll thereby be a bower-biologist and science will frlow from me" is nonsense.
mircea_popescu: heck, i met this chick in cairo, she lived inside a perfectly empty hole in the ground most us solitary inmates wouldn't deem fit as a prison. she had six children.
kanzure: i'm confused because it sounds like a goal
mircea_popescu: because you don't want any or because there's a certain amount of equipment you need before you can have children ?
gribble: Error: "shoot" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of < kanzure> there is a certain amount of equipment you need before you can do useful biology things << hey kanzure do you have children ?
asciilifeform: hey we have a usd ticker!111!
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Error: "forkolade" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: do we have a shitcoin ticker yet ?
mircea_popescu: a NAME is not required for reference.
mircea_popescu: living in "a brand-driven society" means something. this is what it means.
mircea_popescu: but let me illustrate : have you noticed how when under space pressure and trying to introduce a tech item, whatever it may be, the ONE BIT that's ABSOLUTELY NEVER omitted is the name ?
BingoBoingo: Well, a half inch is an eternity
mircea_popescu: this, shockingly, is actually a point.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> shinohai do they all wear that kinda suit ? could be worth a lotta lulz. << It's a black thing
mircea_popescu: a right.
shinohai: I think the pattern looks like the chalk lines on the cloth when you go to get *fitted* for a suit
mircea_popescu: shinohai do they all wear that kinda suit ? could be worth a lotta lulz.
mircea_popescu: shinohai only way to run this is as a training exercise, really.
shinohai: I tried the whole "find x in teh logz" thing for someone once, though it was not a matter of being lazy, it was more of my time is worth more than pennies to do so.
mircea_popescu: past season, i also read a million lines. the machine is going, what you feed it is its problem, but it will be going nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: phf but in any case, i ~can~ read a million lines. take me a season, but then again what are seasons for,.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 20:21 mircea_popescu: "we'll... ahem... protect the item... from derp-ass spammers who might want to do... exactly what roger ver is actually doing... in a few years ie today"
phf is mildly curious is mp is doing his "once i found a thing, i read the whole archive" thing on 5gb or whatever it is of their log.. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "we'll... ahem... protect the item... from derp-ass spammers who might want to do... exactly what roger ver is actually doing... in a few years ie today" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: im sure if you pin down anyone enough to ask it's you know "a protective patent" to "protect it" from "the bad guys"
shinohai: I hear they lock you in a room and force you to read coindesk articles all day.
mircea_popescu: anyone with a diy interest in microbiology should be doing precisely that at least fucking once, these days.
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> you could have a dialysis membrane in a microfluidic chip i guess << speaking of vaguely this : the great success of the new microflora research chips was so great it even made it to qntra! seems an eminently crowd-source-able item, in a useful way at that.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705403 << I didn't expect it to be used direct to address anyway, but rather to just change hands, then the other guy has to ask for a withdrawal ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i wasn't aware you had a such.
kanzure: sure is a strange way to do coinjoin
mircea_popescu: kanzure you'll have it in a few hours.
mircea_popescu: i just get a "x might want to be upped" notification, that's it.
mircea_popescu: so use a shillbert webwallet as a proxy
mircea_popescu: a good for you!
mircea_popescu: so the -ists as basically, the filename, whereas the file contents is a pile of heuristics/hacks, work as well as you might expect ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think a thinking man is any kind of ist. i think it's an affect, one could be a rationalist and then he's going to talk about occam and denounce causes, or one can be some kind of mystic, and then he's going to have a particular stance also. i don't think any of this has to do with with any sort of understanding.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Urban Dictionary: pencil dick: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dpencil%2520dick>; What do people consider to be a pencil dick ? : bigdickproblems: <https://www.reddit.com/r/bigdickproblems/comments/32edi6/what_do_people_consider_to_be_a_pencil_dick/>; pencil dick - Wiktionary: <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pencil_dick>
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mommentum-inertial could work as substitute for mass-inertial as a ready notion. who knows what other cleverness lies silent.
danielpbarron: shinohai, thanks to this latest annoyance i'm a little closer to understanding how such a mirror might work
mircea_popescu: so basically, either a slut (cock comes through the glory hole, i suck it, what do you want from me) or else a fanatic (allah told me!). otherwise, thinking man has no alternative but to be rationalist ?