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BingoBoingo: Also for inquirers into the new qntra bsns http://validator.w3.org/unicorn/check?ucn_uri=qntra.net&doctype=Inline&charset=%28detect%20automatically%29&ucn_task=conformance#
decimation: asciilifeform: how can 20 MB 'load' faster than 20 MB?
asciilifeform: 'Gavin's testing of 20MB blocks shows that loading (disk io) for these is 4x faster than 20 1MB blocks.' << did someone actually make this argument ?
asciilifeform: and here i was, thinking i'll have to hang for jaywalking
decimation: why didn't you bring your concerns to the community so they can try and find a solution together?
asciilifeform: 'Any more information on this? The fact that he is secretly building 10k nodes on a network with 7k active nodes and dropping is a concern in itself and makes me want to support Gavin's hardfork even more so.'
asciilifeform was never able to read the phorum for more than a few min. at a stretch
asciilifeform: so -that- was the 'run into the ground' thing
decimation: I like that line, because it summarizes the activity of about 90% of the american 'security state'
decimation: lolz "Implicit in the the nature of the location an the assertion of the police station being a "safe space" for conducting commerce is that this location open 24 hours a day and 7 days per week is under constant surveillance." << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2015#979013 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:39:06; asciilifeform: likewise, the orphans thing is an easy ddos vector
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-01-2015#998153 << solution: only signed packets get to initiate transactions on your node? ☝︎
cazalla: wow, they fkn locked the fork off thread because hey.. can't have actual blocksize increase discussion can you.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.0
BingoBoingo: TomServo: Thanks.
BingoBoingo: davout: How is the new Qntra mobile experience?
mircea_popescu: the budgets these girls make work...
cazalla: i remember seeing that and thinking surely it's staged
mircea_popescu: clearly enjoying herself too, which goes a long way
mircea_popescu: she takes it pretty far, eventually is all naked
hanbot: nah, apparently that one wasn't indecent enough for a year of jail
hanbot: i dunno anything about her ass other than it being in the wrong jurisdiction
mircea_popescu: is she the short sweet ass ?
assbot: Kendra Sunderland Admits To Filming Library Sex Video ... ( http://bit.ly/1yOZxyb )
hanbot: friendly reminder to not go to the library horny: http://www.inquisitr.com/1802797/kendra-sunderland-admits-to-filming-library-sex-video/ ☟︎
asciilifeform: the testatron just now outpaced the 'pogo.'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: straight to jurov's www
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's not how this works tho
mircea_popescu: this ensures that trying to ram-dos the node would require as many different nodes as a fifth of the total number of blocks it can hold.
mircea_popescu: !up teek
mircea_popescu: something simple like, "whenever a parentless block is handed over the retaining of which would cause memory pool for holding parentless blocks to be overrun, a) drop the handed block ; b) close the connection and ban that peer for half hour ; c) discard all chains of parentless blocks longer than six items ; d) connect again" ☟︎
ben_vulpes: it's almost as though the satoshi codebase were a projection of software that knows how to talk to the one! true! bitcoin protocol.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well actually, the thing could just look at how much memory it can allocate and then never outpace it.
ben_vulpes: once it worked, though, it was doomed to work.
mircea_popescu: it was never seriously supposed to work, and it was specifically not intended to be used.
ben_vulpes: a coherent vision of how all of the parts interact, the emergent behaviors of the system and a robustish bit of software that can make sense of the system.
ben_vulpes: if you'll forgive the rant, this is what the satoshi codebase lacks.
ben_vulpes: someone *designed* each and every mechanism to work together.
ben_vulpes: a thing i learned about engineering when i was...oh, six...was that the steam engine doesn't just work because doodz sat and tweaked at it until everything went around just rightly.
ben_vulpes: anyways, the parallels between how bitcoind only accidentally works and misc odd behaviors of this ancient floppy plastic toolbox are very apparent to me at precisely this moment.
ben_vulpes: resulting in the thing resting at the unstable point at the top of the arc.
mircea_popescu: vulpes is home alone and trying to find alternative passtimes to masturbation.
hanbot: ben_vulpes it's a trap!
ben_vulpes: there's an interesting configuration of the trays where the center of gravity of the top tray is balances the CoG of the bottom tray. this requires torquing the whole assembly such that the CoG's go in a funny place.
asciilifeform has one of these
ben_vulpes: toolbox on the table has a top tray and a bottom tray, connected by parallel braces, mounted at identically-spaced points on both trays. trays move on an arc defined by mechanisms constraints.
asciilifeform: even if for some peculiar reason it were not possible to reduce consumption, the thing ought to know when about to be killed - and shoot itself in the head with some decorum, rather than wait
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the logical thing to do, for it, would be to jettison the entire orphanage if approaching the hard limit << this may be a good idea, if actually something's needed.
mircea_popescu: o nm i read the 11th as a month
ben_vulpes: "git" shows sun march 11 2012 as last commit at ref tagged as v0.5.3
ben_vulpes: * asciilifeform [] knows how/why but still bewildered that no one has at any point seen it fit to bolt on basic sanity << features, bro
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes et al: happen to remember what block height was at the time 0.5.3 was current? if this is in the log, i have utterly failed to find it
asciilifeform: ^ also happens to explain the memory thing
hanbot: for the record, i deeply enjoyed the sedition discussion. i vote for asciilifeform as most likely to sedite.
asciilifeform: not in the experimental 'orphanage burner' build
hanbot: that triples.
asciilifeform knows how/why but still bewildered that no one has at any point seen it fit to bolt on basic sanity
asciilifeform: who the hell writes a program as hungry as this, that is entirely unaware of its own resource consumption and lacks any feedback mechanism ?
asciilifeform: this would require replacement of allocator (as suggested in thread from 2 days ago)
asciilifeform: the logical thing to do, for it, would be to jettison the entire orphanage if approaching the hard limit
asciilifeform: inference, with only a small leap, is that orphanage-burner testatron would have oomkilled precisely one time, had it ran under 128M constraint
BingoBoingo: So who what's to test qntra's new, more modern CSS?
mircea_popescu: anyway, off to eat brb
asciilifeform: i remember the dude from ro
mircea_popescu: if oyu carefully read the log, you'll see a couple explicitly exposed tho.
asciilifeform still thinks we get the discount-shelf infiltrators here
trinque: I'm gonna head out; man that pissed me off
mircea_popescu: We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.‘ << this part is the funniest, incidentally, considering the APPALLING record of usg agents trying to infiltrate a god damnd public channel so far.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask midnightmagic!~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic. Trust relationship from user trinque to user midnightmagic: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=trinque&dest=midnightmagic | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=midnightmagic | Rated since: Mon Mar 7 15:45:54 2011
assbot: Beyond Bernard von NotHaus - The New York Sun ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ckyr9z )
asciilifeform: just the right candidate for 'death ray'
mircea_popescu: it's not much unlike someone going around trying to pass gavincoin for "real bitcoin", which we don't stand for.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in practice what he did is not really defensible tho.
asciilifeform: ge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.‘
asciilifeform: ‘Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism. While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country. We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challen
assbot: Bernard von NotHaus: The 'Domestic Terrorist' You Can Call a Hero ... ( http://bit.ly/1KfjTYb )
assbot: 0 results for 'financial terrorism' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=financial+terrorism
asciilifeform: !s financial terrorism
mircea_popescu: so therefore...
mircea_popescu: come to think of it... bitcoin not being money, not really a good... clearly it is a SUBSTANCE, right ?
asciilifeform: (do you have a garage? garden shed? did you take chemistry in school? probably guilty.)
asciilifeform: midnightmagic: you won't be going to jail for sedition. it'll be something more prosaic, like 'conspiracy to manufacture a controlled substance'
trinque: anyone else from the US want to piss himself publically?
mircea_popescu: the above being also an interesting consideration for they who wish to argue "the libertards are in charge". pls start from that and let me hear the logic.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic seems you're safe enough here. careful in #gavincoin-assets tho
mircea_popescu: "The federal government has never won a sedition case against militia-types, white supremacists, or neo-Nazis. Since World War I, they have won numerous seditious conspiracy cases against Puerto Rican independentistas, communists and others on the left, but no one on the radical right has ever been convicted of plotting to overthrow by force of arms the government of the United States."
mircea_popescu: ossess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both."
mircea_popescu: 18 U.S.C. § 2384 "If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or p
asciilifeform: 'erryday a new reason to not want to be an usian' >>>>> 'every day a new reason not to want to be dragged behind a truck until nothing remains on the rope but a flap of skin'
asciilifeform: at this point one can probably 'plea bargain' to witchcraft
mircea_popescu: well who knows what happened thar.
asciilifeform: ianal, but that's a 5-year minimal
mircea_popescu: "Three members pled guilty to possessing a machine gun and were sentenced to time served."
mircea_popescu: erryday a new reason to not want to be an usian.
mircea_popescu: On March 28, 2010, nine members of the Hutaree militia were arrested and charged with crimes including seditious conspiracy.
mircea_popescu: Ms. Berg was represented by the ACLU. Charges were dropped in 2006.
mircea_popescu: Laura Berg, a nurse at a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs hospital in New Mexico was investigated for sedition in September 2005 after writing a letter to the editor of a local newspaper, accusing several national leaders of criminal negligence. Though their action was later deemed unwarranted by the director of Veteran Affairs, local human resources personnel took it upon themselves to request an FBI investigation.
trinque: midnightmagic: what in the fuck treason do you think you've committed by being within earshot of a discussion of history
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic im sure the usg thinks it can do anything it pleases.
midnightmagic: I'm not sure but I think that non-US citizens can't be tried for treason..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "he bitchslapped the officer with a large print version of the complete tax code"