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mircea_popescu: in general it dun give a very convincing picture of alf-starving-under-bridge.
mircea_popescu: with class 1 the problem is that you claim bitcoin is not worth money ; with class 2 that you claim to be poor but then engage in the sort of shopping upper-middle class tech people do.
mircea_popescu: class 1 is actually quoted above, "or is it out and out, deliberately learned helplessness in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744043 (as recurrent throughout logs) ?" ; class 2 is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736269 and so forth. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: sucks to be poor.
mircea_popescu: it does also contradict at least two classes of things you say, so one never knows, but can take word for it.
mircea_popescu: well, this may well be true, and if it's true it's unfortunate.
mircea_popescu: why ? quit day job, dedicated to item, delivered late 2016, got prize, had 10 btc moar to name than now. how many btc has dayjob produced ? more ? less ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're cutting bits and pieces of a thing then hurting self with them as a proof the item was dangerous. item wasn't dangerous as it was, you cut it up into harmful pieces deliberately!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not very clear to me how your x=y things work, BUT, if you had told me in 2016 that you intend to delay c-s ada impl by 1-2-n years to wait for ffa i'd have told you symmetric cipher really dun need ffa for any reason and eulora won't wait into 2018 for it etc.
mircea_popescu: o hey, how was trip trinque
mircea_popescu: yes but there's important points there as to how things work.
mircea_popescu: from whatever available.
mircea_popescu: both the "for honor" and "for money" circuits are functional and actually functioning. needn't be confused randomly.
mircea_popescu: item, which is generically useful, and in exchange it gets paid with the exact sort of intangibles and goodwill these sorts of intellectual leadership moves warrant and generally attract -- for example by s.mg being married to 100% of its product line to date as a deliberate move ; and being very inclined to consider its isp offering when that comes online (is it coming online btw ?) and such things.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the "and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway" portion of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746522 : that discussion was mid and then late 2016 ; on dec 2017 i had to direct s.mg tech to CREATE rather than simply use a cripto lib. for this reason i don't wish to pay nsa anything -- it didn't do the work i wanted it to do. it's true that it released a "intangibles and goodwill" sort of ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: on which basis i predict there shall be moar облом in the future.
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing the question's not yet ripe for addressing.
mircea_popescu: well what can i say.
mircea_popescu: which part ?
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing six digits is a large enough chunk of change it'd warrant some quite serious examination in any case.
mircea_popescu: or i guess is it the idea that "even had i worked full time, it'd still not have been quite enough" ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ent of your own time on your part (ie, wasted it in fiatlands instead of using it productively in the republic) ? or is it a case of on the contrary, judicious use of your time ("the republic'd have made me rich but empire made me richer still") ? or is it out and out, deliberately learned helplessness in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744043 (as recurrent throughout logs) ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so for my own curiosity : considering the choice to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655064 (i recall a more recent mention but search isn't yielding) has cost you over the past YEAR the equivalent of what appears like 118`337 here + whatever the non-delivery of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591437 would have amounted to (iirc no amt was ever set down ?), are you putting this down to a case of bad managem ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
mircea_popescu: quite!
mircea_popescu: yes ; but can you appreciate how ffa is a lot more apt for tmsr-rsa than for a simm cipher ?
mircea_popescu: but the man who decides to pursue pure research and is annoyed that industry meanwhile makes money is in a very strange mental space. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well no, you could've alternatively delivered eulora-crypto, btmsr cipher, etcetera. evidently hindsight is more informative than foresight, and i'm not even saying you should have or anything.
mircea_popescu: why облом ? you got exactly what you wanted!
mircea_popescu: when you think "hey, ima do the right thing, spend two years making ffa" you make some decisions. they're fine and good, inasmuch as they're yours. but to be decisions, they're the choice of something over something else.
mircea_popescu: nobody can be obliged to it.
mircea_popescu: but this outlook is a luxury, the prime luxury of life, in fact
mircea_popescu: not that i'm particularly concerned, myself. i'm rich enough to not specifically care to monetize work ; trilema can be free for all i care, and i'm more than happy to minor partner with a view to a very long term.
mircea_popescu: i was discussing nsa, as such.
mircea_popescu: the more concerning point is that ~ mircea_popescu ~ has to date made 0 btc out of all the support work he put into asciilifeform 's projects!!!
mircea_popescu: well, you enjoy the freedom to work under your own direction, and a major proportion of all the gains this work produces.
mircea_popescu: 2013 it turns out.
mircea_popescu: heck, in 2012 or when it was, 10 btc went for http://trilema.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/
mircea_popescu: well i mean... there's an over-time tendency for btc bounties nominal value to decrease and for their fiat value to increase. this is normal, as the item grows.
mircea_popescu: why is this relevant ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was paid in 2016.
mircea_popescu: the problem isn't the payinbg. the problem is the workdoing.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-118024 << 25btc.
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is nonsense ; i even paid for you know, legal footwork if you recall.
mircea_popescu: the deeper problem here is that the evolution of warfare has rendered a symmetric cipher useless. for the launch codes or how you call it we're mostly in consensus to use pure rsa, if memory serves, and for the prattle of eg game server, serpent will do.
mircea_popescu: well sure.
mircea_popescu: the implication isn't "but instead sat" necessarily. you take this altogether very personally, but there's a good dozen "crypto experts" opining importantly in the comment section there.
mircea_popescu: well, they don't yet need it for anything. at least mentally. aanyways.
mircea_popescu: (nothing in crypto is useful, either, which severely limits the rng uptake apparently -- if your crypto dun work anyway what need is rng item or somesuch)
mircea_popescu: evidently nothing in crypto is useful without rng ; what's this to do with anything ?
mircea_popescu: it is not clear to me why this is uselessly.
mircea_popescu: actually it was written with a view to having the bounty paid to nsa. it's just nsa had to actually do some things.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point re "it's unfortunate that open ended terms, such as one's own life, and other things, end up quite closed termed in the end" is sound. yes it's quite unfortunate, and rather regrettable. nevertheless, it's how it goes ; if i knew better in feb 2016 i'd have said "this'll be open for a coupla years". as it happens, i didn't know any better in 2016.
mircea_popescu: evidently not ?
mircea_popescu: but that discussion was re absent submission to cipher contest ; not re your work making the ffa item you came to the conclusion is generally necessary.
mircea_popescu: so then what's the problem ?
mircea_popescu: an' there's nothing wrong with this.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as it's made for being correct, it's made for whatever it'll be used for.
mircea_popescu: in general i expect it is made for ~any purpose. be it rsa, c-s, or yes, tetris.
mircea_popescu: or in better terms : the conversation could have been carried in 2016, in the terms of "here's what the future looks like, wut do" rather than end-of-2017 in the terms of "here's what i don't like about how the past looks".
mircea_popescu: it does however not answer "where the hell was the discussion of s.nsa's march 2016 promise wrt february 2016 cipher contest".
mircea_popescu: this is not unreasonable.
mircea_popescu: 1998.
mircea_popescu: http://www.verify-it.de/sub/challenge.html << poor guy even has a contest.
mircea_popescu: i recall this now.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-05#1397388 ah there we go ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever saw it myself.
mircea_popescu: or, to state it conversely, waiting copulation upon the perfect erection will result in a very old virgin bride, AT THE MOST. generally it will result in divorce.
mircea_popescu: the item doesn't even exist implemented at all! still today, as then. lego blocks implementation would beat this situation.
mircea_popescu: in a word, yes.
mircea_popescu: think of how proteins work in the body, it's exactly the same thing.
mircea_popescu: otherwise the result is that you leave it unsignalled for a coupla years and it dies out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, because they have to attach to the item, so the item can then be followeds.
mircea_popescu: but the specific sequence is required, that's what communication is, that's how signalling works. "actually... i was going to do x for y, but can't, and won't before z". that's gotta be -- either in the comment section of the linked march 2016 report, or in the comment section of the linked contest, or i guess unideally here. but explicitly.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: none of these make it.
mircea_popescu: the important parts in order of importance : 1) distress call ("god damned it") ; 2. failure discussion "i can't do this c-s i was going to do for the cipher comp". these must be present as teh header.
mircea_popescu: not as such.
mircea_popescu: what happened to "god damned it, i can't do this c-s i was going to do for the cipher comp because no ffa" ?
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: whatever happened of that march 2016 promised cs implementation candidate cipher ?
mircea_popescu: heh! so many hopes, so little time...
mircea_popescu: "The S.NSA entry is to be an implementation based on Cramer-Shoup. As it turns out, Cramer-Shoup has never been publicly implemented by anyone, at all."
mircea_popescu: was this jan/feb 2016 or different period ?
mircea_popescu: ie, http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-january-february-2016-joint-statement/#selection-451.0-457.21
mircea_popescu: for some reason i was looking in 2016 era s.nsa reports
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: this is quite true.
mircea_popescu: leaving the mpi_second_cut as the basic root for further/other work also.
mircea_popescu: going to construct a v tree (on the basis of her sig) that builds into eulora crypto lib.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mpi&search= << it's in there, that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: not at all.
mircea_popescu: a then, that's getting patched.
mircea_popescu: i expect it'll be patched into mpi. which she's going to also sign to genesis. sorta like how i signed mp-wp, and unlike how you didn't genesis it, or did you ?
mircea_popescu: yes, well, there's no practical way to negotiate ad hoc two such copies if indeed they exist. logical move is to syncronize by patience, wait for it to appear see if it's any good.
mircea_popescu: but anyway -- i see no impediment ; or can wait for diana_coman 's published item on her blog sign then if happy, or.
mircea_popescu: why didn't you even yesterday is the more productive question here. what exactly changed since today ?