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mircea_popescu: to
this day i suspect xiaoping's plan was exactly 1. industrialise
through giving away
the products
to
the west. within half a century you will have
the industry and
they will have collapsed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly,
this was a strongly held byzantine notion,
too.
mircea_popescu: "why vote for women ? because if women spend more
time
talking
to
the state and less
talking
to
their husbands,
the state will be stronger and society weaker"
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assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:50:13; mircea_popescu:
the socialist state does not want a normally functioning society, but instead
this stellar configuration where
the state is at
the center,
mircea_popescu: but
the idea being
that sybil attacks succeed when and only when
the nodes are
too agreefull.
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mircea_popescu: exactly antitethical
to how wots work, incidentally. because coherence is
the only possible attacxk against a wot.
☟︎ trinque: asciilifeform: yep,
that would make sense
trinque: I was
thinking of it in
terms of "go read
these books" and "you know, don't steal
that guy's potatoes"
trinque: as I
think about it, mostly a fairy
tale
that extends
the reach of foot-soldiers
to nightmares
trinque: this calls into question whether
the interaction between sovereign and subject is one of
the dispensation of a (hopefully better) OS, as I stated, or whether he is rather
to be a force of nature which is so, regardless of what winblows
they're running
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 19:43:16; asciilifeform: chetty: ''Winston made another convulsive movement.
This
time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as
though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course,
that is not
true. When we navigate
the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient
to assume
that
the earth goes round
the sun and
that
the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what o
mircea_popescu: trinque but "how do you know", after all, if opinion enacted reality (or properly, if
there were no objective reality past opinions)
then his gambit would actually work.
trinque: gavin can't have shamcoin because bitcoin does not work
that way,
too bad
mircea_popescu: right ? whether ou find it or not, it's always
there
to fuck oyu over
the mouth. with a stick.
trinque: perhaps we find objective
truth when we bump into it, so
to speak
trinque: mircea_popescu: you have a hell of a way of provoking a cascade of
thought/reflection with a single question
mircea_popescu: a woman
that remembers her
time as queen of sheeba and a sow
that remembers
the greatness of mud make just as good mates for a hog mounting humiliation porn
thing.
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mircea_popescu: well for
that matter
the pioneers fired on
the british.
trinque: mircea_popescu: if
there is an objective mode of being, I am further down
the mountain
than it
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu centralism would be
that eretz israel geese in a barrel
thing again
mircea_popescu: <trinque> sure one can't apprehend reality in some objective way << if
this is
true, how come gavin's not getting what he wants ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> well, first hoover,
then fdr <<
the pissing on veterans is a universal sport.
this is why being a soldier is dumb, being a mercenary is better.
mircea_popescu: centralism is ever
the
temptation of
the stupid and
the lazy, for very good game
theoretic reasons :
they know
that greatness won't be oozing out of
them personally any
time soon. perhaps if it were all put into
this box
then it may ooze it ?
trinque: pete_dushenski: I just spent a long
time sitting once upon a
time
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> which is, as good as any, a demarcation point for
the birth of modern usg << more like
the birthplace of
the central planning element
thereof. "we affirm congress has
the authority
to central plan economic activity"
mircea_popescu: btw : he only ended up in jail because he was a politician, and poiliticians exclusively are required
to DECLARE
their fortune.
mircea_popescu: hanbot lol nastase.
totally. he did end up in jail
tho.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform door
to door shakedowns are incompatible with
the present day usg.
pete_dushenski: trinque:
there was a moment where I realized my whole model of my life, experience, etc was
that, a model << curious, when ?
trinque: one cannot just give up modeling at
that point
pete_dushenski: the less critical capacity,
the more articles of faith
trinque: there was a moment where I realized my whole model of my life, experience, etc was
that, a model
pete_dushenski: we all have
to believe in something, some moreso
than others
pete_dushenski: this os is definitely in
the first! biggest! best! vein
trinque: but some confucianism for
the peasants never hurt
trinque: pete_dushenski: I
think we'd agree
then. I'm saying
the OS
that's being distributed is a mangled hack
pete_dushenski: it's not clear
to me
that reality is digestible below a certain level of intelligence
trinque: pete_dushenski: I am saying
that
this religion is irresponsible
pete_dushenski: whether
they pray
to
the state or science or
the church is a matter of fashion
trinque: pete_dushenski:
this form of govt does not broadcast a coherent model of reality
pete_dushenski: sure, except for how it might be seen
to be "irresponsible"
trinque: if
that exists, in other words, humans are wired
to mostly receive
their understanding of what is real from authority,
this mode of "state" is exceptionally irresponsible
trinque: in
that
the ruler clearly always has
the power
to sort of speak declaratively about reality, and he/it will be mostly believed, or at least ignored
trinque: this brings
to mind again my (hardly novel)
thought
that
the usg is a shattered sovereign, rather
than
the absence of one
trinque: asciilifeform: right, I assume
they can and will warp reality
to suit
them as needed
pete_dushenski: more digestible when
the claim is geographically isolated
pete_dushenski: usa locks up girls, refuses
to "negotiate with
terrorists"
pete_dushenski: @nntaleb: In 80s
terrorists captured 4 Russians in Beirut.Russians kidnapped 10 relatives of
terrorists, sent body parts.Nobody since messed wRussians
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform:
The giving of false
testimony - a crime, seen in Russia as small change - in
the U.S. can lead
to 26 years of prison.
The fact
that, in essence,
the matter concerned a young girl who did not wish
to admit her love affair with a married man, interests no one in
the U.S.
The principle of
the machine is: do it [the crime] - receive. [consequences]
the machine is merciless and incorruptible.'
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe
the man in
the uniform
to be a bandit, with whom one can come
to an understanding. he believes him
to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able
to, by pressing on
the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute'
the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need
to beat up Monica or
toss into her purse heroin or am
trinque: better
to just give unto bezzledom what is bezzle
pete_dushenski: found on floor with name on it, hey ppl win
the lottery all
the
time!