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mod6: Wasn't actually too much later I was walkin down the street in Tucson thinking... "I wonder when someone is going to make a currency out of cryptography like Schneier was talking about in Applied Crypto.."
mod6: Not like the trees up in MN.
mod6: Gave that shit up in a hurry.
mod6: Shit is like razor wire or something. And what's worse, is they're a sort of locust style tree -- and when they have leaves on 'em shit sticks together like velcro.
mod6: Umm no. Those mesquite trees and palo verde trees have NASTY barbs on them. After cutting down 1 mesquite tree it looked like I got into a fight with a wolverine.
mod6: I needed some cash in like 2008 and was like, "alright, lemme get a saw and do some slash & burn for cash...". Was thinking, "Oh yeah, eazy-money, here we go!"
mod6: Did I ever tell you guys about doing tree work down in Arizona?
mod6: some days though, i really do miss running the chainsaw and the smell - the trees, the gasoline
mod6: hehehe. it's been a steady march into perdition in the salt mines the last week or so.
mod6: im gonna give this shit up, go back to being a lumberjack.
mod6: java 8, fixes your shit, fucks your wife, pays your bills, disciplines your kids. all part of the thing dontchaknow.
mod6: Same guy also told me, "Yeah, there are some performance problems... but we're gonna switch to java 8, so that should take care of it."
mod6: I had a guy tell me with a straight face, "I only write performant code."
mod6: Good Gentlemen. How's everything going today?
mod6: let us know how it goes after you get 1.4.x
mod6: ag3nt_zer0: shinohai has it. no gpg2.
mod6: thanks for the notice phf
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's what i like about idiots, that they're determinedly idiotic. rarely you run into amateurs, it's generally pros all the way. << "expert beginners"
mod6: I'm gonna try again with a different browser.
mod6: I'll link my questions in #pizarro.
mod6: I'm finding it hard to paste my things into there.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: be so kind as to comment on the post, my good man << alright, cool.
mod6: mircea_popescu: That might be something for us to consider, I do believe that ben_vulpes said he would handle this himself, at least for now. I guess there no reason why one couldn't be brought on later if the labor involved in that becomes to great for the operations manager.
mod6: (That's all I've got for now, other than those things, looks pretty good to me ben_vulpes. Nice work!)
mod6: Question 4: Where should mod6's and asciilifeform's, and whatever remaining Bitcoin Foundation funds be sent? Do we need a public address to pay these to?
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks for your guidence here.
mod6: Ah, alright. Maybe there should be a line in there about that, and perhaps unanimous decision required. Or something of the kind.
mod6: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, any one else, feel free to weigh in on any of my Q's here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> wherever it feels like neh ? << Ah ok.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> sure, when bonds convert, same as everyone << Sounds fine to me.
mod6: "asciilifeform, mod6, and the chairmen of The Bitcoin Foundation will each appoint one board member, hire ben_vulpes to manage Pizarro, and hire BingoBoingo to perform remote hands labor."
mod6: Question 3: From the language of part, it sounds like asciilifeform, mod6 and Both Co-Chairs can each appoint one board member. A total of three board members will exist. Can an elected/appointed board member give up his seat at any time for another person? Or if not is the term of the board seat for the existance of the entity?
mod6: Question 2: Where will the shares be issued? Or are they simply just to remain non-transferrable and a line item on the AN0 sheet?
mod6: Question 1: Will the foundation receive any shares for it's 1 BTC contribution?
mod6: Just being a bit more clear on that part.
mod6: Possible change to: "asciilifeform will pay for BingoBoingo's plane ticket home out of his own pocket, with mod6 as backstop and ben_vulpes as secondary backstop."
mod6: Alright, one thing that can be cleared up imho: "asciilifeform will pay for the ticket out of his own pocket, with mod6 as backstop and ben_vulpes as secondary backstop."
mod6: Evenin', just catching up here..
mod6: Gotta few things to take care of, be back in a bit.
mod6: nice! thanks trinque
mod6: What a time to be alive, I tell you.
mod6: !!v 6488330E8BD5E2D68C38ECBAA9E71692D5D9241ECE339BD300AF99C402042DF5
mod6: !!pay shinohai 0.03000000
mod6: (did I just not see it? maybe it's already there somewhere)
mod6: trinque: hey, suggestion here for deedbot.org -- A link from the homepage to the Help (help.html) would be nice. or i'd settle for one in the "frequently asked questions" page too.
mod6: Give it the best possible chance of success out of the gate.
mod6: I think it's worth it, to go through the hairpulling, to turn it from "adventure" into "venture".
mod6: I hope that it would be an initial amount that will get pizarro off the launch pad.
mod6: I agree, on both parts mircea_popescu.
mod6: aha, thanks for the guidence here.
mod6: It did me too, but I figured what he meant from 11 BTC total.
mod6: So, let's see: 5 BTC from mod6, 5 BTC fom asciilifeform, 1 BTC from The Bitcoin Foundation = 11 BTC. One board seat for each of these; mod6, asciilifeform, and The Bitcoin Foundation. ben_vulpes, and BingoBoingo are to be given Special Stock Warrants for their work.
mod6: Well, chew on this a bit. Let's think all this through.
mod6: That may not be a bad idea. However, there's maybe a lot more that needs to go into creating something like that. Not sure what our time-horizon is here...
mod6: maybe mod6 gift's you 1 BTC for board seat?
mod6: The smile on the llamas face was best btw.
mod6: Can I represent the foundation from one seat, and then myself from another?
mod6: Here's the thing, if the foundation gets a board seat, who is to represent it impartially or what not? In the given case where I have 1 board seat from say 1 BTC, and ben has one from 1 BTC.
mod6: What I think is that it maybe clearer, better for Pizarro to have private investment -- especially since the two co-chairs are also going to be involved in either "management" or "board seats".
mod6: trinque: to me, it's not that expendature is inappropriate, that's not what I'm saying. I think trying to help Pizarro get off the launch pad is a great thing for the Foundation to do.
mod6: You are to be manager, there are to be greater than one board memebers.
mod6: Ah, yes. Forgive me.
mod6: mircea_popescu: I think the offer on the table, from ben_vulpes, was for him to be "manager". Am I correct, ben_vulpes?
mod6: trinque: This is a very good question, and so far, other than Pizarro, adds up to 1 renewal of a domain name.
mod6: Ahem. 0.36578854 BTC.
mod6: That seems accurate to me as well, as the foundation owns the server assets.
☟︎ mod6: I also still plan to, if I can get a few minutes here, to publish V 99993.
mod6: ben_vulpes: yeah, the SoBA is gonna be a bear this month indeed.
mod6: I'm gonna give mircea_popescu, diana_coman, BingoBoingo, asciilifeform, phf, and others time to catch up and weigh in, if so desired.
mod6: Let's see where this conversation goes.
mod6: I think I could be persuaded to do that.
mod6: Let's discuss, and see what makes the most sense.
mod6: Of my own coin. (sorry, didn't mean to end the sentence ahead of time).
mod6: What I'm offering, if it is more palatable, is for me to return the Foundation's money and make that whole again, and instead offer up a 5 BTC private / or gift to Pizarro.
mod6: I'll admit that how it is with the 1-to-1 matching and so forth with asciilifeform, seems to be a bit of 'bubblegum+shoestring', which, let's face facts, it is. This is somewhat of an emergency put together entity.
mod6: When thinking about how to re-structure, or re-word some of the Pizarro Charter, it becomes way simpler, and easier with The Bitcoin Foundation out of the equation. And probably would provide for a better structure, a more sound structure, perhaps.
mod6: And I believe that answer, passing the smell test, was "Yes, indeed it can." "This is a useful expendature of the monies."
mod6: there might be a better way to go about this without the Foundation's involvement. Like I said before, I could have just put up my own coin for this. Just again, as discussed yesterday, the thought was "Can The Bitcoin Foundation do something here to help Pizarro, for the Republic and the betterment of Bitcoin as a whole?"
☟︎ mod6: So reading through some of the comments, questions, concerns rasised by mircea_popescu, and diana_coman, I started thinking yesterday that maybe -- since there are specifically hard-to-draw lines between mod6's role as Foundation Co-Chair, ben_vulpes's role as Foundation Co-Chair and their roles as ``managers'' or ``management'' in Pizarro ...
mod6: I've gotta do a few chores around here, bbs.