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asciilifeform: ebay hunting for usg surplus tech is a national sport.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except they CANT be had in the us << tell that to kanzure, or any of the ten thousand folks like asciilifeform but moar-loaded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the value of ME running pogos is minimal. there are N+k**p things i can d << lol, we know these were for friends, not mircea_popescu's house
mircea_popescu: except they CANT be had in the us.
asciilifeform: 3mw gensets << those, one can get in zimbabwe
mircea_popescu: and to add to that, hearst & co were DEFINITELY pro hitler.
benjamindees: I was referring to Hitler.
benjamindees: since I'm not the CIA... no
mircea_popescu: to go from there to fuhrerbunker in less than a decade... you need a real idiot for such a thing.
mircea_popescu: ardly, hypocritical way the British ruling class did all they could to hand Spain over to Franco and the Nazis. Why? Because they were pro-Fascist, was the obvious answer."
mircea_popescu: " In 1936 it was clear to everyone that if Britain would only help the Spanish Government, even to the extent of a few million pounds' worth of arms, Franco would collapse and German strategy would be severely dislocated. By that time one did not need to be a clairvoyant to foresee that war between Britain and Germany was coming; one could even foretell within a year or two when it would come. Yet in the most mean, cow
mircea_popescu: because these logs were INSUFFICIENT i swear. i leave for a full few hours and what do i get ? NOTHING
mircea_popescu: no no allow me to belabour teh point moar :D
mircea_popescu: if the whole thing's out of power your problems are probably closer to finding enough ak47s rather than generators.
mircea_popescu: buenos aires is larger than north carolina.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes perhaps you don't understand what "the town" means.
mircea_popescu: which kinda is what the definition of metal is.
ben_vulpes: once you need it so does the rest of town.
ben_vulpes: how does renting a backup generator by the day make sense?
mircea_popescu: actually you can get it on lease, and on quite excellent terms. with any luck, BY DAY.
mircea_popescu: however, the point is more along the lines of "solutions exist"
mircea_popescu: as you might imagine, it's more expensive to run than just use the grid.
ben_vulpes: but you mention a 3mw gennie, so that's relevant
mircea_popescu: well i dunno what teh topic really was cause i'm not so sure i said what it seems to be the case i said or something
ben_vulpes: wasn't reaaaally the topic iirc
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much the lowest "i did something positive for the world i live in" barrier they'll ever meet.
mircea_popescu: for they, the pogo.
mircea_popescu: there are, however, bunches (i'm told) of people who would like to do something, but for reasons of barrier of entry, can not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it most certainly cannot be true that he cannot get a pogo shipped in. but quite likely true that he cannot get a pogo shipped in for 18 usd per. <<< it doesn't even reach that. the value of ME running pogos is minimal. there are N+k**p things i can do to halp bitcoin.
ben_vulpes: first gotta resolve the "embedded" vs "external" question
mircea_popescu: that i never ended up using because... there hasn't yet been a power outage.
mircea_popescu: or tell you about how on reports about "power outages" i had all sortos of arrangements in place, including the option to have a container generator installed (worth about 3mw)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i distinctly recall that machine tools are uncommonly difficult to obtain in ar, for example << do i need to show you pictures of the casa del transformador again ?
mircea_popescu: the great debate of "with what" is eagerly awaited. im even working to import two (2) popcorns for the occasion.
ben_vulpes: cart before the horse until the db's replaced
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: my plaintive cries << it's not a bad plan i don't think.
mircea_popescu: on the positive side, mining's also nailed down.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: there are all of these things that make sense in the context of it, but... <<< i come fresh from a three hour session of discussing eulora game model with c people.
trinque: mircea_popescu: maybe they'll crowdsource a sweet name for wwiii from reddit this time
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'we've never heard of you' <<< i'll insure against that one, for cheap.
mircea_popescu: trinque: how many countries have to be fighting a war for the phrase "world war" to apply? <<< ww1 was instituted by gallup poll.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: better than refreshing a faucet << pretty much teh point.
mircea_popescu: "oh i hate shootin gelephants and the empire is too heavy ; oh how the latrines stink" is really not adequate for one over the age of about 15.
mircea_popescu: this "british socialist, tour of derpage in spain" thing is wormtalk.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he could have been lord curzon II, or else he could have been the Russian Lafayette.
mircea_popescu waves at all the people.
asciilifeform: (would lose the occasional bits)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this kind of thing was not unheard of in the old days of windowed uv-erasable eprom.
kakobrekla: yet this normally doesnt hapen
asciilifeform: just as, say, your fingers are not (get a flashlight and see if didn't remember this)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: all transistors are phototransistors.
kakobrekla: quite the lulz there
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adlai is doing this, shuts up
danielpbarron: dude, take the small amount and build some rep; what's with all the whining?
adlai: i'm not going to declare in advance that i want X% of profits, or a Y% upfront fee, if that's what you're looking for
adlai: so at this point i'm working further on my code, and waiting to see if anybody interested in using it has terms in mind already
adlai: i'm not set on a specific configuration for how such terms would look; i'm interested to see what works for them. mircea_popescu outlined the terms he offers people who manage profit centers, and it seems that he's not willing at this stage to risk an amount which is worth my time to manage, and this is understandable
jurov: you seem to avoid at any costs mentioning concrete terms to potential investors in this chan
adlai wonders whether that quite does him justice, but arguing on irc gives less of a fuzzy feeling than becoming that someone
ben_vulpes: i'm just saying that i admire your persistence. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2014 01:18:27; mircea_popescu: there is exactly one avenue to do that : make it so good some actual trader starts using it, after which go work for him.
adlai: ben_vulpes: context is http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2014#913052, the thing is usable, i'm trying to get people to use it. maybe not the most tactful, but i don't have my own pr lady (yet) ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: <adlai> [] this is actually why i suggested that for an mpif pc, it'd make the most sense to run the bot on s.mpoe itself << i admire the guys persistence
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it most certainly cannot be true that he cannot get a pogo shipped in. but quite likely true that he cannot get a pogo shipped in for 18 usd per.
asciilifeform: -everything- is a problem of the poorly networked.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu originally contested the difficulty of importing heavy things, saying it was a problem of the poorly networked
asciilifeform: (see also other threads re: same)
assbot: Logged on 18-06-2014 22:22:37; benkay: the word i got was that large, tech-heavy equipment gets stalled at the border.
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall that machine tools are uncommonly difficult to obtain in ar, for example
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2015 06:26:04; mircea_popescu: i live in the sticks.
ben_vulpes: is the typical american to expect those to be hard to come by in the "civilized world"?
asciilifeform: or materials with which to work
asciilifeform: notice that the author had no trouble procuring modern tools
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the risk of circularity, the place where you can easily make the kind of arrangement pictured in the film.
ben_vulpes: not at a term i don't understand.
asciilifeform: and what provides for security is that he lives in (laugh, but) the civilized world
asciilifeform: i don't know the author personally, no. he's just a blogger.
ben_vulpes: for that matter, where is it?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what is it about that place that provides for space and security at such a low cost?
asciilifeform: it all exists, yes. and the folks who live there are almost qualified to graduate out of usa.
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asciilifeform not so foolish as to think about 'homogeneous enforcement environments', knows that there are, e.g., vast deserts in usa where folks set off trucks full of dynamite for amusement, etc.
ben_vulpes: a pauper like myself, though?
asciilifeform: i mean, to keep the space for pleasure
ben_vulpes: the risk of losing my hands was not worth the pay.
asciilifeform: so, not so cheap that one could budget it as lunch money ?
ben_vulpes: which makes sense, coming from an inhabitant of the Forbidden City
asciilifeform: sounds very spiffy, but i notice ben_vulpes is referring to this business arrangement in the past tense
ben_vulpes: i grow to suspect that you see all of the ussa as a homogenous enforcement environment.
ben_vulpes: and the guy who ran the place had his own out-of-sight apartment that was rarely shown to other tenants
ben_vulpes: granted, we had to run it from the mains entry point *ourselves*
ben_vulpes: and yes, there was 3-phase.
ben_vulpes: people lived there yeah
asciilifeform: e.g., were you free to live in and legally receive mail there, if you wished ?
asciilifeform: and a total lack of draconian conditions in lease ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: your warehouse had heat? 3-phase current? private apartment out of sight of other tenants ?
asciilifeform: but the workshop fella posted that to 'youtube' and was not afraid of being robbed. (however, long after, he since moved, to a larger space, iirc.)
asciilifeform: it's the best security there is.
asciilifeform: 'nobody knows this is not a warehouse full of old shoes' is not 'minimally secured'