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asciilifeform: just as one example
davout: the interesting in this bit is that if you s/devs/power rangers/ it works just as fucking well, if not better
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mircea_popescu: "This guy owns enough BTC to crash the price to 0 on the fork if it develops. Basically imagine launching an altcoin that starts out with the current blockchain as genesis. Then imagine a huge holder acting to destroy this altcoin to protect the original Bitcoin."
davout: mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134318.msg1435904#msg1435904 <<< hearn, in reply to me: "because some parts of the protocol are directly exposed to underlying libraries like OpenSSL, you have to match their behaviour exactly as well, including all their bugs." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134318.msg1435904#msg1435904
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as the old thing is bitcoin, and the new thing some shit gavin made.
davout: sgornick: an implementation detail in some older client does not count as a protocol rule in my book, if proof was needed that the 'teh-code-is-teh-spec' approach is fundamentally braindamaged, well, look no further
sgornick: Oh, ... I think I see -- you are saying I didn't go far enough? Not only are trxs with post-fork taint worthless, but there could be trxs with no taint that would confirm on one side but would be invalid as they were already spent on the other side?
davout: sgornick: as danielpbarron points out "Yes, that's why it will be so dangerous to accept payments from anyone that includes coins tainted with post-fork coinbases." is not completely accurate
benjamindees: as an asset, sure, assets are easy to control with conventional means -- threats, taxation, theft, etc
benjamindees: not as a currency
davout: benjamindees: it's not really as if bitcoin was taking banking too seriously either
adlai: i like how the idf doesn't put the number in the name (though they are planned for five), calling them just "multi-year plans", as though resigned in advance to the inevitable delays
mircea_popescu: have trouble understanding your proposal - ordinary users will be easily bamboozled by a government sponsored security update. Further, when the crisis hits, to disagree with the line, to doubt that the regulators are right, and the problem is the evil speculators, becomes political suicide, as it did in America in 2007, sometimes physical suicide, as in Weimar Germany."
mircea_popescu: er, more serious, and more disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks are difficult for ordinary people understand. I
mircea_popescu: "The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigg
davout: benjamindees: i may be thick here, but i fail to see how this relates, as a miner i might not one someone forcing a scarce resource that i sell, such as space in a block, to be inflated away
adlai: if we look at the blocksize limit as a parameter of the tax system, this isn't inflation, it's a tax cut - which we may wish to reverse in the future
adlai: blocksize limit + tx fees as the taxation apparatus of bitcoin's decentralized regulatory body
davout: benjamindees: inflation of block space supply doesn't count as inflation to you?
adlai: the point, if i follow correctly, is to establish a channel for conveying specific data across the airgap, as opposed to ethernet-over-fiber, which would defeat the purpose of the airgap
BigBitz: There is no such thing as optical ethernet.
davout: because if you manage to put some microphone somewhere and sniff audio, nothing theoretically prevents you from sniffing optic signal leaks as well, guess it all depends on the implementation specfics
davout: i don't think sound is inherently flawed, as long as you are in a controlled environment
mircea_popescu: BigBitz optics as the element that goes over the airgap. rather than sound.
BigBitz: optics are not an airgap solution - if you mean fibre optics - or do you mean actual optics as in vision/eyes?
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2015 19:18:11; danielpbarron: .@aantonop Being banned by Reddit is almost as worse as @rogerkver not being allowed in the US
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@unaffiliated/thestringpuller', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
cazalla: just approved a couple of comments on your article as well
mircea_popescu: and as to the question of "how was gavin turned", the answer is obvious : cultural immersion. he happens to be part of the problem, much like if you put ximenez in charge of the supreme court you'll get burnings at the stake out of the legal process irrespective what the laws say.
mircea_popescu: that should tomorrow tide agree to rebrand its detergent as "bitcoin", then it will be okay if there's n omore bitcoin. because bitcoin has no identity but is merely a name, and since the empty name is "more widely used" the project is nominally "more successful"
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron almost as worse ? wtf is wrong with these college grads!
danielpbarron: .@aantonop Being banned by Reddit is almost as worse as @rogerkver not being allowed in the US ☟︎
thestringpuller: my first gig as a war profiteer!
mircea_popescu: not the best ? perhaps. but a nude statement of unbestness is as useful as an aeroplane made out of air.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, this "thing as its name" approach is very much empowered by legal abstractions such the corporation,
mircea_popescu: but an imaginary "social media platform" where value is UGS but all work is somehow, magically owned by the name, which is being bought and sold as *the thing it stands for*... well ?
mircea_popescu: it's as if every teacher in the hs left to go attend pravda readings, and the children are now stuck with the cleanning ladies.
mircea_popescu: it's because the smart people that should be scoring them left their spots in the local hierarchy, because "better things to do" and now a retard like altman is left herding them around, as best he can.
mircea_popescu: why is reddit so fucking stupid ? "because it has stupid people in it" no. not because of that, stupid people are universally present and as inert as dirt.
mircea_popescu: it's not necessarily or striclty a matter of "pay" as in, the obvious direct "gimme 20 bux i need for mcdonalds".
mircea_popescu: decimation it's not as bad an argument as it seems.
mircea_popescu: specifically because by buying and selling stuff like watsapp or instagram or whatever as if they were representative of something they're merely SYMBOLIC of (their user's aggregated intellectual work) we're in essence going about carring handles of suitcases
decimation: even if you decrypt it, it might not be illegal as long as you don't disclose it
mircea_popescu: well it's not clear what, "either" is improper. "commenting on nothing while misrepresenting themselves as talking about one or the other."
mircea_popescu: anyway, i imagine it's just some "play around with computor" thing, not seriously proposed as a solution to anything
mircea_popescu: decimation i don't like it, because : as a way to transfer data between the two computers where there's a cable, it's stupid. even serial protocol is better, but we have tcp etc. as an airgapped solution is stupid, because sound.
Vexual: as rime goes by, stealing bitcoin will feel like a really bad idea
Vexual: sure as shit cheap oil aint about making exactly 11 texases fit into australia, so whats left over?
mircea_popescu: very quick and dirty "all carbons" evaluation, but still, as a general hint
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Lighter than Vancomycin's 1449 as a further illustration of the sheer size of the space.
mircea_popescu: As an aside, if you're outside the field, you might wonder why it's worth working so hard to find natural products when we have so many synthetic organic chemists in the world cranking out new compounds. One big reason is the ridiculous, insane hugeness of chemical space: the number of possible compounds at or under the molecular weight of teixobactin defies description, and I mean that in a completely literal sense. T
mircea_popescu: as the guy aptly points out, it's never been a better time to be a biochemist.
BingoBoingo: Who woulda thunk there's be worthwhile shit in stuff that doesn't culture as cheaply as possible?
asciilifeform: which is just as much of a fact in the sea as on land
mircea_popescu: ld, as print media struggles for survival, creating controversy sells magazines whether it’s ethical or not.”
mircea_popescu: “All of us at The Inn at Little Washington have much to be grateful for as we enter the new year. The Inn remains the longest-tenured Forbes Five Star and AAA Five Diamond restaurant in America. We possess the highest Zagat rating (29, 29, 29) in the world. Once again, The Inn has received The Washington Post’s highest 4-star rating from restaurant reviewer Tom Sietsema. Most of us understand that, in today’s wor
asciilifeform: (which i will always imagine as a 'snob cobol' no matter how many times told that 'snowball')
asciilifeform: artifexd: the signature itself will almost certainly start life as a gpg output.
ben_vulpes: in the game of retarded telephone that is the us link reposting scam masquerading as 'nooz'
asciilifeform: the unit cost of menstruettes is roughly same as cigarettes (afaik)
asciilifeform: 'digerati', as i understand, encompasses a set of peculiarly wealthy ('dotcom boom', normally, but often barnacled to this or that mega-corp success of some vaguely computerized sort 1980-2000) ☟︎
asciilifeform: as a result of losing a bet in school
asciilifeform: identified as a u.s. state dept. muppet
asciilifeform: aha because 'then may as well the breaking of the tablets, all bets off'
mircea_popescu: as late as 1880 it was held that such option is not on the table
mircea_popescu: but actually, as it was, with a view to its own self coherence.
asciilifeform: as mere aesthetic preference, i'd rather if folks were able to be honest with themselves and others re: their motivations. but i did not fight rms's war, cannot say 'he oughta have....'
asciilifeform: whereas cultivating 'sainthood', lame as it is, appears to have worked - at least for preserving his skin.
asciilifeform: i suspect that he spun the whole thing as 'moral philosophy' because if he had readily admitted that gpl was merely a successful hack against usg's 'laws', he would have been killed.
mircea_popescu: yes, as in lent to him.
asciilifeform: as in, lent to him ?
asciilifeform: rms was speaking of the right to do as you will with things that are physically yours, without gestapo suddenly breaking down the door and demanding to see if you've multiplied unauthorized numbers
asciilifeform: arguably microshit is reborn in these other devils, much as ibm was reborn in it
mircea_popescu: the situation was microsoft or go hang yourself, to which a lot of people who didn't particularly wish to hang themselves reacted as best they could,
mircea_popescu: neither of it enacts rms as some sort of Jesus unless im missing a lot ?
mircea_popescu: i guess "important" is not the best word, as im discussing size-importance.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2015 04:41:46; asciilifeform: naggum had a piece where he confessed to thinking of 'open source' as a weapon, purpose-built for the destruction of a particular evil (microshit)
mircea_popescu: "MP def lost the intellectual battle by the brag of wealth as his last effort to win."
mircea_popescu: 's "just as much bitcoin as bitcoin only better" ? poopy for him lol.
mircea_popescu: "just as much a cryptocurrency, only better!"
asciilifeform: i'm not sure why it even matters what the gavinists do, so long as the original blockchain continues to run as designed. it then remains a 'hawala' between actual people, and zimbabwe can do whatever
mircea_popescu: so what's next, if this somehow succeeds ? two years from now, liberia uses bitcoin as nat'l currency, suddenly the workers go on strike, ask for double salaries. govt asks gavin to fork btc to give them an extra one-off five million btc to pay the workers.
mircea_popescu: references to formal definitions as "by the very definition" are shaky.
mircea_popescu: cazalla if it does translate into traffic you'll see it as a worsening of the demographic quality lol.
mircea_popescu: apparently the libertards are actually retarded enough to have misapprehended bitcoin as some sort of ally for their stuff.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2015 06:34:07; asciilifeform: re: rms and his oddities, i'd note that quite a few (most?) folks would end up regarded as similarly odd, if they somehow were set free to do wtf they pleased
undata: yeah, given a sane interface to feed transactions all manner of other programs can do as they please
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] the default change behaviour is asinine (owing to how it destroys wallet backup as a concept) but i cannot recall how it can be seen as 'vulnerable' << wallet notion itself is asinine
asciilifeform: smart as in 'smart free speech.'
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is exactly like that alt coin that went nowhere which was going to give everyone with bitcoin as many of the altcoin as they had bitcoin
mircea_popescu: which is as it should be, really.
mircea_popescu: 1 tx is say 400 bytes. if i split 1k btc into 1k 1 btc txn that's 400kb. if i dump 400kb on the network as it is now, about half would be put into a block immediately.
thestringpuller: As Louis Armstrong said, "As I think to myself, was I ever this dumb?" LOL
Apocalyptic: as sensible as the whole statement
thestringpuller: "It looks like he made his goal in life to be the most detestable person in the internet. (Methinks he is still nowhere near that rank, though.) However he is a precious resource, as an expert bitcoiner who enjoys kicking some of the most sacred cows in bitcoinland."
mircea_popescu: i was thinking that as i wrote, but then dropped. yes, an apt analogy in many ways. very inept in others tho
mircea_popescu: gold has a problem of demographic. the only people that think gold is functionally useful as a monetary metal are poor. they may be a numerous echelon, relatively speaking, what's left of the upper middle class proceeding on vague intuition and memories. however, they're poor.
kakobrekla: might as well put it here.
kakobrekla: as dead as wot seems it still changes.