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mircea_popescu: for one thing, nicotine is not addictive. for the other thing, EVERYTHING in the us is glue paint and floor sweepings, from usda a+ beef to coca cola.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's afaik ~exact description of ameri-cig. and for that matter, ameri-chicken, an' similar product
mircea_popescu: ~none~ of the points are factual. moreover, imagine an "encyclopedic" article on, say, obama, in the same terms.
mircea_popescu: scraps, and shaped into curls.[1] The cigarette is ignited at one end, causing it to smolder and allowing smoke to be inhaled from the other end, which is held in or to the mouth. Most modern cigarettes are filtered, although this does not make them safer. Cigarette manufacturers have described cigarettes as a drug administration system for the delivery of nicotine in acceptable and attractive form.[2][3][4][5] Cigarettes ar
mircea_popescu: "A cigarette is a narrow cylinder containing psychoactive material, usually tobacco, that is rolled into thin paper for smoking. Most cigarettes contain a "reconstituted tobacco" product known as "sheet", which consists of "recycled [tobacco] stems, stalks, scraps, collected dust, and floor sweepings", to which are added glue, chemicals and fillers; the product is then sprayed with nicotine that was extracted from the tobacco
mircea_popescu: let's take the first para.
mats: asciilifeform: any idea what thats called? i thought 'food stamps' (EBT) are a debit card
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, check out the smoldering wikirage : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/minigame-smg-december-2018-statement/ << Trilema -- MiniGame (S.MG), December 2018 Statement
asciilifeform: the tomato-sellers take it to usg booth and trade it for ordinary moneys, minus tax.
asciilifeform: at one point i noticed that at the food market , good chunk of the crowd wasn't paying with money, or even card, but with wooden monopoly money thing . mostly mex-looking chix, with children. turns out, it's what 'welfare' comes in naodays
BingoBoingo: Indeed. Which network the employer picks determines employee dietary decisions.
asciilifeform: they do that here with train tickets.
asciilifeform: lol! 'i owe my soul to the company store'(tm)(r)
BingoBoingo: Then again here they also have this privatized food stand deal where employers can issue a part of employee pay as "alimentation tickets"
BingoBoingo: They try that here too. Pay with card get X% back as VAT rebate.
asciilifeform: it varies by vendor, and whether yer an idjit (idjits pay interest, cuz they actually use the card as a credit line)
asciilifeform: i was speaking of general-purpose 'bank gives you 5% of the spent money back'
BingoBoingo: They try that here. Many of the big chain sucker traps here will offer incredible discounts for using the right card to the point it is anti advertising the pricing of their wares.
asciilifeform: well orcistans typically can't afford to do what usg does ( i.e. print green with which, among other things, to pay chumps to use cards, in the form of 'reward point' )
BingoBoingo: Well, one thing the oppresive VAT here does is keep something of a cash economy alive
asciilifeform: for all i know , somewhere in the reich there's still an old amish d00d remaining, plowing field with horse, eschewing ipnoje, etc. or maybe usg already found him and put into психушка and took land for unpaid tribute.
BingoBoingo: Plenty of times in old country I'd see the Amish buggies going up IL-13 to the Murphysboro Walmart in order to commune with Inca
asciilifeform: i shit thee not.
asciilifeform: aaand they take 'paypal' at the market. via ipnoje.
BingoBoingo: Ah yes, even the Amish go to Walmart in the US
asciilifeform: ( i.e. ~actually~ independent, dun need city man for anyffin, not petrol, not toilet paper, nuffin ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: last 'independent farmer' in the reich lands, i suspect, died during reign of carter. if not earlier.
BingoBoingo: 's easy to hide the inputs behind big ears
asciilifeform: point, from lizard pov, is not so much to '+ev project', but to put new nails in the coffin of the independent farmer.
BingoBoingo: Well, that's the story of all state projects. The "factor in" part.
asciilifeform: it has 'level 9000' incaization potential tho. hence the interest in the 2 major inca camps.
asciilifeform: not so big yield when you factor in the petrol (not only for tractor, but for pesticide, herbicide, etc.) mircea_popescu has a mega-piece re subj.
asciilifeform: ( d00d was a mega-believer in the plant and 'let's use it for errything' )
asciilifeform: ( usg seems to have copied just about erry hruschevism, down to the corn thing )
asciilifeform: copied in turn from hruschev's lulzidea
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, thing was born as pseudo-civilian cover for missile technology development
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'nasa' is a bag of lulz, even by usg standards -- entirely a 'whitewash' project for ye olde 'black budget', historically ( when e.g. 'shuttle' worked at all, was used largely to enorbit $maxint-yet-disposable spy cameras )
BingoBoingo: ;tldr Teen scams unicife out of 1000 USD, national news
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lzGMl/?raw=true << for thread-compleeetness, traditional form of stein's algo.
asciilifeform: if only 1 of a,b is shiftable (i.e. even) that's an unshared factor of 2, and preserves gcd if removed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can shift; so long as you increment counter when you've shifted ~both~ a and b buffers , cuz that's an actual shared power of 2 factor. ( it's what happens in stein )
asciilifeform: hm i distinctly recalled a thread where he agreed to work as eulorist -- or was that a temporary thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mocky did some (very good btw) work on the foxybot ; then went to qatar ; now looking for job.
asciilifeform: hm i think i missed a thread..? diana_coman mircea_popescu ain't Mocky the client dev ? why is diana_coman stuck baking client also..?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 15:45 asciilifeform: so theoretically can have a steinized daykin ( it remains to be sweated out whether this is moar economical than stein, i'ma get to it today )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885097 << you can't simply shift the buffer just because IT is even ☝︎
asciilifeform: the 1st step to adaizing a cpp turd is to remove the cpp threadisms, they will not only not work with ada's sane tasking but actually destroy the guarantees of the latter ☟︎
diana_coman: myeah, all sorts of practical restrictions to consider here; I just wanted to make sure I'm not overlooking some available option before weighing them
asciilifeform: it's what i'ma do to trb after i solve the mmap thing.
asciilifeform: then you dun need to try an' pry open the internal structure of ada task to somehow fiddle it from inside cpp.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if you 'de-thread' the cpp item, you can call its knobs from ada task. is what i meant 'reentrant'.
diana_coman: ugh, I was rather hoping I was just thick and not getting it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: admittedly i dun know enuff about your proggy to say whether it is possible to make ada piece 'prime mover'
diana_coman: mainly because the whole thing is anyway only one thread of the mess as it were; but yes, reentrant should work too
asciilifeform: why wouldja need to fork in cpp if you have ada tasks ? make the cpp coad reentrant and call it from the tasks
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman already is quite well-versed in the subj from baking eucrypt
diana_coman: in the vein of "fork in cpp and from that thread call Ada proc that then spawns tasks"?
asciilifeform: or, vice-versa, import and fire the necessary cpp knobs from the ada.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. ada knobs that are ordinary procedures and can be fired from the cpp )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, the concrete mess is this: smg_comms is in Ada, has sender and receiver task types so one can create those as needed, perfect; onth eulora client is this ball of CPP mess and it's unclear to me if it can even be made to use smg comms as it is or what
asciilifeform: for that matter, i never even was able to learn where it was ( to any moar precision than 'hbomb radius' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf is 9000x moar genius spy than asciilifeform , evidently -- i tried 9000 ways to sweet-talk dks into 'lemme into that warehouse', summed to 0
asciilifeform: you can't signal it, or do anyffin else useful to it, there
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what wouldja even ~do~ with ada task type from cpp ?
diana_coman: does anybody know whether/how can I use Ada task types from C/CPP code? afaik from GNAT docs there isn't a way to export task types as such
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc he described it: agreed to go to indiana jones warehouse and manually photograph manuscripts
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 09:42 phf: i agree that the secrecy approach doesn't work, i wasn't the driver behind it, i was skeptical about it, but i wanted to see it play out, and it failed spectacularly. i did the relevant manual labor and promised not to share what i got out of it. and yes if i thought about it, the blood oath puts me in the position of the very same whisperers, where whatever i have i can't make use of. my vague comments about old men and gold chests are
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885068 << for my curiosity, was that labour anything like nicoleci 's ph trans[actions] trans[cribing] ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Yes, in Angloland "escuela de Rugby" might imply something vagualy masculine, but here... It's old women trying to save little boys from futbol
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> cuz whenever they hire a new "engineer" he just dumps more code in the pub and that's it, "he fixed things" << AHA Heathen WP Pluginisms
asciilifeform: and yes they keep 9000 copies of 'same' lib.
asciilifeform: ( does it spawn new anthills ? apparently does. do the ants survive winter ? sadly also apparently yes )
mircea_popescu: cuz whenever they hire a new "engineer" he just dumps more code in the pub and that's it, "he fixed things"
asciilifeform: i dunno how one'd even begin to answer the q of 'whether it works'. what even means 'works' when referring to the anthill.
mircea_popescu: i expect what really is going on is that they have half dozen copies of the "same" lib, diff versions, w/e, and they load them all i nthe hopes one works.
mircea_popescu: i would be utterly surprised if this worked at all.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-06 16:55 mircea_popescu: just the sheer insanity of the js loading model. who the fuck can't put it all in one file ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885123 << it's deliberate. they fiddle'em regularly, and section'em so the unfiddled bits stay cached ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Possible, Goats are know to eat sheet metal and Llamas are big goats in hairy armor
asciilifeform: mountains 'eat' towers.
mircea_popescu: maybe they eat the towers.
BingoBoingo: Apparently there's no phones up in Llama herding country
BingoBoingo: Hard to tell. ~half the conversation was in spanish. Girl's dad made a phone call because he went into the city as he does from time to time.
BingoBoingo: lol, I actually had occasion to hear Incan language last week.
mircea_popescu: much like "all that needs to be, or can be expressed in redskin tongue takes <1 page, which is why they don't need writing, can remember a page"
mircea_popescu: there's never been, since the origin of the world, cause or use for a full 100kb of js. what fucking 730k, there's not that much to say in that scriptlang.
mircea_popescu: "dDLzd487PGS.js" is 718514 bytes ; "uGPoR8851vS.js" is 730348 bytes. this is just a SECTION
asciilifeform: y'know, not only it never made much sense when written, but they put it through mungers also
mircea_popescu: just the sheer insanity of the js loading model. who the fuck can't put it all in one file ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: lol what is that, 50MB ?
mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4YRQW/?raw=true << meanwhile this is what a myspace pageload looks like these days (they call it "facebook" but it's the same "valuable" nonsense by&for morons turner used to make a small fortune out of a large one)
BingoBoingo: In other news... amazing how comment spam shifted from viagra to... http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LvP1y/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2015-07-08 19:34 ascii_field: far more interesting is the trait hasn eysenck called 'psychoticism'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193607 << this makes for a pretty lulzy re-read, in the context of the meanwhile better fleshed out notions of structure and trees and whatnot. isn't it obvious, asciilifeform , that the ~substantial difference~ is not at all the "head rng" but simply the extension and especially quality of the conceptual trees involved ? the "head v" so to speak ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "being in legal trouble" is generally a decent first order approximation of that youth. (not that the empire isn't abusing imagignarly "legal process" to attempt to wage war and other such bs, but i guarantee you nobody targetted some schmuck selling fireworks in rural bumfuck because of his roger ver-ness.)
mircea_popescu: so the idea of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881910 isn't as much "don't make promises to people outside the walls" ; it's rather "don't make the ~sort of promises~ they make outside the walls ; but if you're too young to know the difference don't make any at all". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: saeculum promises include the unpromiseable so regularily as to naturally create the suspicion it's deliberate.
mircea_popescu: d contrast this with "marriage vows" or whatever bullshit in this vein.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-18 17:42 Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-18#1863546 >> if this is true then "you're not smart enough be here" is as meaningful as "not telepathic enough"