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mod6: im looking into these mapOrphanBlocks data structures as they basically go unchecked for size in 0.5.3.
fluffypony: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/15/codeplex_repository_out_of_favour_as_microsoft_moves_major_projects_to_github/
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tchotchke | I'm going nuts with my mother's accumulation of tchotchkes - it's bad enough she never parted with one she got as a gift - but why did she have to buy more?
ben_vulpes: * asciilifeform [] has never worn or so much as touched a hat made from a rarer animal than rabbit << i cap out at elk
mircea_popescu: also all that talk about unsheating your own conscience / not constructing your mental process as a reaction to bs / etc.
ben_vulpes: at least you're not stooping so far as to toe the clutch
pete_dushenski: rounding corners and squeezing opportunities, to be as vague as humanly possible
mircea_popescu: kinda funny as to what counts to insults these days.
mircea_popescu: about as fun to fuck out of them, too.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i'm kinda waiting for the moment when broken code is defended as "different perceptions of software". why should it fixed ? it's not a bug, it's a rights issue!
mircea_popescu: maybe send them as teachers to china ?
asciilifeform recalls reading an article long ago re: how crypto actually enjoyed greater legal protection in usa back when it was classified as a weapon of war
Adlai: original btc was an experiment, doesn't excuse treating it as "just an experiment" nowadays
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: original pgp was not an apparatus for one-off deals with strangers, but something to use between friends, as i understand. << what you say is accurate, but doesn't excuse. suppose i knock up a girl, and the blastule in her folds goes "hey, daddy's cock was crooked, so let's make the baby's cunt crooked too. nothing like baking in random assumptionbs for no good reason!"
Adlai: also, coindesk publish press releases as articles in return for money
asciilifeform: 'those concerns “are being addressed” as Ethereum moves toward its planned launch sometime this year.'
Adlai: we'll leave the zoophilic overtones as an exercise to the astute log-reader
Adlai: they have to cover up, although not as much as the cousins
asciilifeform has never worn or so much as touched a hat made from a rarer animal than rabbit
decimation: first time I went there it struck me as a shithole
Adlai: hey now, bfl miners exist, i have one as a doorstop since it doesn't work anymore
mircea_popescu: oh so he came dressed as a bfl miner ?
mircea_popescu: what's gavin dressed up as this time ? perianne boring ?
mircea_popescu: nanotube's idea was to re-create the wot as a p2p thing of sorts, and he's been working at it for a while, but hey. it's hard.
Adlai: dunno, i authed with gribble as usual, then messaged assbot !up, and had to auth with him as well
mircea_popescu: dude, they're selling themselves as something more than "zack & miri make an agency"
PeterL: might as well put their initials instead of signing their name
asciilifeform: what's funny. any good crapware artist has 'protocol' - as in, what order to put the bits in over the wire
cazalla: anyway, he came looking for me, not me him, just as easy to neg rate him and move on with it
asciilifeform: once you switch to the opticals here, they - as decimation pointed out in this and the last 3 threads on the subject - tear out your copper.
PeterL: and is it just going to get juicier as time goes on?
PeterL: you can timestamp whatever you want, as long as gpg signed first
mircea_popescu: so that someone in 3714, with nothing but an inscription of deedbot's deeds, can verify our contracts just as well as we can.
davout: say i want to timestamp a contract i made with someone also in the L2 group as nested clearsigns, i doesn't really matter which signature is checked by deedbot, right?
davout: as in 'wanna timestamp some stuff? fine, verify with and otp"
mircea_popescu: PeterL idea kinda is to make a further record of people's sigs, help guard them against mitm and other nefariousness. but as davout points out, now the bot needs a key.
undata: mircea_popescu: I read the payment as coming from the party wanting a signature, not the bot?
punkman: davout, I'll just say that there were many cases with invalid signatures posted as deeds
undata: and signed as such
davout: mircea_popescu: with the fingerprint for a key it could simply do what you said wrt requesting trust data as a json blob from the w.b-a.link thing
mircea_popescu: PeterL weren't you a biochemist by trade dabbling into code as a hobby recently ?
nanotube: kakobrekla: i have no idea why i keep keyid as a separate column in db either. probably something grandfathered in...
asciilifeform: davout: picture if you were trying to pass a document off as having been signed by X. you generate a key with the correct name, etc. and colliding keyid, then try to pass it off as the genuine article; then, when chumps swallow it, sign with it
asciilifeform: original pgp was not an apparatus for one-off deals with strangers, but something to use between friends, as i understand.
asciilifeform: hence the 'key id' was meant as merely a soft handle to quickly pick out the right pubkey.
undata: I'm hacking on it as well
Apocalyptic: davout, re "looks like this can't be verified correctly without either relying on a keyid as an actual key unique identifier OR keeping a synchronized keyring and actually verifying the signature" I suspect there actually is, playing with the source atm
davout: what *is* specified is that the bot must verify that the signer has L1/L2 assbot trust, looks like this can't be verified correctly without either relying on a keyid as an actual key unique identifier OR keeping a synchronized keyring and actually verifying the signature
punkman: as a reminder, code is here https://github.com/extempore/deedbundler
undata: you'd write the deed bit as a plugin
undata: as for english as I delve into a few other languages on duolingo I find my native tongue ever more horrifying
davout: kakobrekla: "nfi why nano keeps keyid field in his db" <<< if you keep the fingerprint you're automatically keeping the key id as far as i understand since the key id is simply the second half of the fpr
davout: kakobrekla: would it be hard to make links such as w.b-a.link/trust/7C1FBEC924FBD66531A02AE3F95E4E395927DC9C/291237F37A2C023CADBED52513288EAB01713428/json work with keyids as well as fingerprints?
ben_vulpes: as someone somewhere once said "i don't hire developers who spell well, i hire developers who mispell consistently."
ben_vulpes: as a valid construct.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc, i did mention 'can pull up arbitrary tx' as part of what a 'whole bitcoin node' has to do
ben_vulpes: creating a raw transaction requires having the previous transaction in hand in full at runtime, so as to extract the pubkey from the previous transaction
gabriel_laddel: they're in the same vein of games such as diablo I&II, baulders gate, path of exile etc. Not in terms of gameplay, but overall attention to detail and cohesive structure.
mircea_popescu: lol i read that as "toe online" was o.O
mircea_popescu: bitbet has it as well. so does every other country.
mircea_popescu: for as long as that lasts lol.
decimation: cameron said "as technology develops, as the world moves on, we should try to avoid safehavens that can otherwise be created for terrorists to talk to each other"
mircea_popescu: that's not what you say. you say, "as you may be aware, because this so and so weakness in this part of the engine that does that and this, some drivers are so and so.". guy needs an intro.
mircea_popescu: i want !gettrust to match any 32 char string as a key rather than a name
kakobrekla: ;;later tell ben_vulpes as requested, json; http://w.b-a.link/user/ben_vulpes/json and http://w.b-a.link/trust/ben_vulpes/kakobrekla/json ☟︎
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla : can assbot match 32 char strings as keyids instead of names ?
assbot: Logged on 10-09-2014 11:54:21; mircea_popescu: other than proper cryptography for all foss, as discussed coupla days re gentoo overlays etc, i would fucking love for all lines of code to come with a counter.
davout: meant yesterday's log as it seems it has come up quite a few times already :D
mircea_popescu: kinda why "adoption" is meaningless. i don't care for anyone to "adopt" anything i do. i might care if they change to fit to it. but otherwise, good fucking luck, there's no value in having a bunch of pacific islanders speak english as if it were the retarded language they spoke before.
mircea_popescu: "Few pieces of software in history have been so fiercely debated as Systemd. "
decimation: later on he describes people who like systemd as "progressive" and those who reject it as 'conservative'
decimation: "So anyway, long story short, we came to the conclusion that Upstart is conceptually wrong, and it moved at glacial speeds. It also had the problem that Canonical tried very hard to stay in control of it. They made sure, with copyright assignment, that they made it really hard to contribute, but that’s what Linux actually lives off. You get these drive-by patches, as I would call them, where people see that something is broken, or
ben_vulpes: <decimation> [] outgoing attorney general Holder wants to 'make a legacy' << just look for the "apparent pedophilia rate" as evidenced by "he had kiddie pr0nz" to go up.
asciilifeform: (the linked one is also beautifully illustrated, as it happens)
decimation: yeah I'm using it as a somewhat poor example. my main point is that having $x mil to 'invest' allows one to bend over and pick up stuff that bums have no access to
mircea_popescu: apparently wikipedia deleted a page discussing the "forward" as a generic name for socialist publications after someone mocked obama for it.
asciilifeform: the 'vacuum' will be filled by theft and robbery from the same place as before.
mircea_popescu: ah you're right. originally i read it as "we'll just keep more of it".
decimation: I wouldn't call it 'hate' as much as 'utterly uninterested'
asciilifeform: they're trying to play it "anonymously". ie, not official << with pretense every bit as thin as with 'tor'.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG? << it could become a new brand of tide.
danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG?
asciilifeform: but baking tradeability in as a matter of course - is another thing
kakobrekla: meh snowden leaks could just as well be disinfo
mircea_popescu: do as a batch
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla as in, if the rating was given via here, or imported from gribble's db
mircea_popescu: this is almost as if someone sat down and thought about it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea is to import gribble's wot but mark it as gribble's, and allow others to import assbot's wot.
kakobrekla: as ascii pointe out, session is bad so there is no more that.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to... well... it's what the build pulled in.
asciilifeform: as discussed a few days ago, i recently installed a mips64 router.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nominally open-source, but in the same sense as apple's 'darwin' kernel - that is, nobody who isn't paid, reads it
mircea_popescu: i know about as much of go as i know about hawaii.
artifexd: He said "write it in whatever you want as long as it compiles on linux"
mircea_popescu: hey, the average domestic animal regards its keeper as an animal of the same age and the same gender as it is.
mircea_popescu: yes. as ideas spread on the internet, the derps they touch become increasingly nonsensical.
teward: mircea_popescu: you should probably tag your NSFW as NSFW >.>
mircea_popescu: and inasmuch as you're a person rather than an organisation, "forced coercion" is really not very much use.
cazalla: i use to cover the company A raises X amount of capital but have been skipping them as you could really just word replace the amount and company name from a previous article and be done with it. does anyone actually care about such things and wishes to see them?
mircea_popescu: TomServo welll... some guy i never heard of presented on some webpage i never saw before as important, turns out he's another gavin, doing parlour tricks atparties and whatnot.