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mircea_popescu: 500ml of powder should make a decent hole / tear an arm off.

mircea_popescu: this'd be a helluva device, incidentally, for teh wife bimbofication process. "congrats on your new 1150 ml funbags hon, and remember, if they detect the wrong hand..."

phf: i believe we had a booby trap thread, about putting grenades into those reinforced 90s doors

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo a hey, so not completely clueless then. good to know.

asciilifeform: if he fails to silently break even ~one~, you have a working otp !

asciilifeform: note that these 'tanks' do not have to be impregnable, in order to work. if the enemy has a 1 in 10 chance of breaking it -- send a crate with 100 and xor'em. for so long as it is easier for you to make'em than for him to crack'em, by a wide margin, he is fucked

a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 01:51 asciilifeform: if i were drawing up such a thing, i'd even have the sram work in such a way that 10 is a 1 on odd clock cycles, 0 on even

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another hypothetical 'near solution' would be a well-boobytrapped package containing remanence-free ( per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656777 scheme ) sram with otp ☝︎

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> 90s a lot dumber than originally thought, in the us. << Pantsuit was president. Bill just sorta decoration to quiet the rednecks

asciilifeform: there does exist such a thing as a physical limit.

asciilifeform: i disagree that it crumbles : if you were to find a nonparallelizable trapdoor that no one is likely to outrun you in computing -- you have the item.

mircea_popescu: but your original claim, that "to demonstrate, here's a design for an object that meets the described spec , if p!=np :", crumbled under scrutiny.

asciilifeform: it only becomes interesting if we can turn the 10 to a 0.

asciilifeform: now if we can put a bound on the enemy's advantage in calculating the (nonparallelizable, note, it should be clear why ) output -- we have the item.

asciilifeform: 2 ) a mechanism similar to bitcoin's sha2 pow, where it grinds out a collision , the number of ticks that it took, xor'd with pad loc i, then next i+1 , .... , until pad runs out.

asciilifeform: consists of 1) an ordinary, trivially copied otp, e.g. a hdd full of fuckgoatsolade ;

asciilifeform: to demonstrate, here's a design for an object that meets the described spec , if p!=np :

mircea_popescu: there's no way to have alf nominated personally in the workings of physics, and thereby have a tape alf and alf alone can fuck with

mircea_popescu: starmap is such a one.

asciilifeform: ( in the case of a typical recording medium -- all at once )

asciilifeform: all you need is a physical process that is 1) repeatable, in that you can birth a matched pair of'em 2) cannot be substantially sped up

mircea_popescu: cuz it's patently a nonphysical object, what. seriously, fixed future ?

asciilifeform: ( i.e. can you make a matched pair of otp such that 1) output is cryptoentropic 2) can only leave the device at particular baud rate , no matter what is done to it ? )

asciilifeform: '... Thus it should also be possible to construct, for example, a chaos-battery. Such work is in progress. '

asciilifeform: 'We built a true alternating current (a.c.) battery that periodically reverses value and sign of its electromotive force (e.m.f.). This a.c. battery is an electrochemical concentration cell that consists of two coupled half cells in which identical oscillating Belousov-Zhabotinskii (BZ) reactions take place isothermally at 28.0°. The homogeneous BZ oscillations are phase shifted in order to create a potential difference between both

asciilifeform: gotta love the socialistoid bent of such articles : when, e.g., police dispatcher goes down, or self-driving coffins , whatevers, mega-disaster; but microshit's crafted prevention of civilized comp as a class, is business as usual and a-ok

mircea_popescu: "For the first time, there could be such a thing as a national 911 outage. There have now been four in as many years."

a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:59 mircea_popescu: the point is not without merit, though. ~all the competent, at artisan level, males, the dudes working leather and metal and wood and whatnot ~competently~ are virtually all 50 yo doods with very much a slave mentality.

a111: Logged on 2015-08-19 23:55 mircea_popescu: what, "i'm a boy from tenesee here to die for some fat bitch's right to marry her dog" ?

mircea_popescu: the dood that thinks he can't hit a woman, for instance. and assorted other bars in his equivalent cock cage.

mircea_popescu: yes "country is 90% male singers", but this don't figure much into anything. there exists the direct equivalent of the northern pure cuck, as typified by say the charles wilson muppet above in the south : a brawny, silent, "strong" type, the competent 50 yo male slave of various trilema aparitions.

asciilifeform: there isn't a patriarchical sparta or whatever hidden somewhere in that box, no.

asciilifeform: what the scammer specifically wants, is to put on you, somehow, the burden of searching for proof that he is a fraud. and when you fail to meet the arbitrary standard ( he will move it , as required ) , and you will, he ends up with free pr and 'legitimacy' etc

trinque: maybe you end up burning some fuel and shaving a few years off your orbit of the republic. who knows

asciilifeform: midnightmagic: i do indeed have a 5G dump, mailed in by somebody with handle of 'goat', on oct 20 2013. it was among the first items fed into phuctor.

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 15:39 mircea_popescu: "option for the poor", dontchaknow, first and foremost the option to pretend that they're not poor because they suck ; that the reason kid now needs to beg for college moneys ISN'T that his mother failed at her fucking job, that had she been a non-suck wife she wouldn't have the fucking problem in the first place and so on.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720258 << whole ameri-edifice, from alimony to divorcetheft to childsupportism to harassmentism etc -- is specifically about handing out to the wives 'the freedom' to pantsuit. 'giving the wolf a spear' or what was the expression on mircea_popescu's planet. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2014-08-28 02:09 asciilifeform: the book is quite like the 'rule of law is a myth' piece (http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/MythWeb.htm - linked here a few times) except that katz hasn't let go of his religion yet

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720255 << lol!! 'dun ask whether this is a crock of shit, You Will Have Problems, instead ask whether fuhrer's decrees are being correctly carried out' >> and see also oblig. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-28#812963 . ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: there is no such thing as an opposable nonexistence proof for a bitstring

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 15:11 midnightmagic: You'd told me after I uploaded the 4GB to you that you had an even earlier copy--and that's what I'm looking for. The phuctor dataset was something I saw you post a link to in the archive which Mircea kindly(?) suggested I look more closely at.

mircea_popescu: lettuce externalize all the costs into a large ball and gift it to jesus! that's why we created jesus for in the first place innit!

mircea_popescu: "option for the poor", dontchaknow, first and foremost the option to pretend that they're not poor because they suck ; that the reason kid now needs to beg for college moneys ISN'T that his mother failed at her fucking job, that had she been a non-suck wife she wouldn't have the fucking problem in the first place and so on. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: the important point here, as far as the latin-american "liberation theology" marxist reinterpretation, as typified in the latest (and first jesuit) pope is concerned is : that property is not a right.

mircea_popescu: and to continue the lulz : "Equal protection challenges require a review of the statute allowing court-ordered support [for adult children of a failed marriage]. Neither strict scrutiny nor heightened scrutiny are required as these statutes do not create classes of people based on race, creed, color, gender, national origin or involve a fundamental right. These statutes create, instead, social and economic classifications, re

midnightmagic: In particular, I know that if I send people here to find old data, you people will tear them a new butthole, and so I hope to punish the disbelievers.

midnightmagic: You'd told me after I uploaded the 4GB to you that you had an even earlier copy--and that's what I'm looking for. The phuctor dataset was something I saw you post a link to in the archive which Mircea kindly(?) suggested I look more closely at. ☟︎

midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Good god, no. Not interested in embrace&extinguish. I've managed to capture the attention of Chief Lying Scumbag himself Craig Wright, and a secondary source of historical SKS would mean that I'm probably not lying when I tell people that fake-Satoshi's fake-keys *weren't* in the dataset as of February 2012.

asciilifeform: in related lulz, from ad sidebar in mircea_popescu's link : 'A. Gary Shilling says that parents can no longer depend on home equity loans to pay for crushing tuition costs. Click here for Shilling’s tips on how to profit and pay those tuition expenses.'

mircea_popescu: you know, this is the ONLY fucking benefit of living where you do. that you can put up a craigslist ad or whatever, "willing to feed and house paralegal, you will have to have nice tits and love the cock." and be swamped with takers.

asciilifeform: i have a paralegal in the sense that she has an arc welder operator

asciilifeform: still would like to read a case involving somebody who ~did~ sit for it

asciilifeform: is there a record of, say, 30 y.o. 'eternal student' being 'childsupported' ?

asciilifeform: that dun look like a case citation

asciilifeform: it's a state apparatus, btw, rather than federal, and maintains a pretense of 'voluntary' ( i.e. d00d gotta manually sign cheques, and jailed if he 'forgets', rather than wage & property confiscation as seen in tax collection )

asciilifeform: no but can haz ? pull up a case where d00d jailed for not paying tuition for spawn

asciilifeform: !~later tell midnightmagic http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720099 << if you want to read, e.g., the phuctored page, i refreshed it on archive.is a few days ago. but if what you're aiming for is to embrace&extinguish phuctor itself, you're on yer own ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 12:18 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720072 << heh, the next day after http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719442 huh ? tell you what, wait until it's back on, then ignore the matter for a few years, then when it next is down or anything come back and ask that.

mircea_popescu: of course, then it was a cross. but anyway.

mircea_popescu: phf but leaving aside that the inquisition was invented in the first place to stamp out pantsuitism manifested as catharism from teh south of france (which it did do) : are you aware the first yellow star as a sartorial accessory was also introduced then ?

mircea_popescu: anyway, the moment is very much a french equiv of the us civil war. the north still won, same north, same terms.

phf: i sort of assumed from the paintings and the existence of such thing as thieves' cant, but at some point it was sort of like a mix between monthy python's holy grail and the life of brian. i.e. dirt digging communes, living somewhere on the periphery, espousing any kind of random interpretation of gospel. "christ the table throwers of the third denomination"

mircea_popescu: well, the fact that there existed a 12th century animalrights, gender-fluid community of idiots who failed miserably in the field excuses you from such a pinpoint.

mircea_popescu: to this very day teh episode does truly bother the pantsuit press. because here's the thing : whether alt-right knows or doesn't know there's such a thing as jesuit, the thing they know or don't know still is, and still works.

phf: right, i have similar impression, i thought there might be an event associated with it. i'd stick to the umberto ecco's idea that the transition happened sometime in the 14th century as a result of pantsuitization of catholic church

mircea_popescu: anyway, the important point here being that the "progress" is actually a withdrawal ; from alhpabet to hieroglyphics, from christos to jesus, everywhere the sweet scent of senescent decay.

mircea_popescu: phf there's two fundamental roles for divinity in the life of man (unlike the matters discussed re resplenduminous, which are quite apart a third) : it's either momgod, give me a thing ; or else dadgod make me enjoy the thing i got.

mircea_popescu: and in more domestic tranquility : a girl made bolognese, with fusili ; i made spicy paprika chicken, with penne rigate. there's now available A SELECTION of pasta leftovers for breakfast!

mircea_popescu: (the link, for the curious, is that in any other time than the present the above charles f. wilson would have been counted as a jesuit. both his stepping-stone and ultimate destination 2nd education institutions being -- jesuit.)

mircea_popescu: in other words, i dun think "obscure" is the problem. i think "not wanting to take a look inside" is the problem.

mircea_popescu: phf but to be honest, i suspect the actual reason is that this'd be a first step on the road to indicting jesus. which is apt, jesus being the best first-line heuristic for idiocy you'll ever encounter.

mircea_popescu: anyway, but the above line re "consolidated into" is there to explain how exactly $item became shit : at time t0, there existed $item, and it was respectable. at time t1, misguided "pluralism" allowed a bunch of rank imbeciles, such as here typified by charles f wilson, to open $rakim-and-his-black-chix-code, $faggots-fashion-law-review etcetera. then at time t2, the foregoing useless items "got consolidated" into $item. the

mircea_popescu: so i much doubt you will interact with him unless you somehow age 20 years, get tit implants and become a socialite.

phf: this is a discouraging entomology, since i just came back to washington d.c. so now i have to interact with willsons and their brood yet again. (not directly, but i get to see them on the street)

mircea_popescu: so : bc law thinks having argued before the supreme court!!!! on the wrong side of a case that got adjudicated the other way 8-0 is something to put in its bio as the #1 item.

phf: a beautiful specimen

phf: i tried !from:foo syntax, but until there's a proper search query grammar i think i'll stick to an explicit looking keyword, as originally suggested

phf: oh the combination has been working for a while, that example with hurr durr had ascii hidden somewhere there

mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzy throughout. "we were old enough to fight in vietnam, but not old enough to vote, which is lulzy, notwithstranding we whined a lot more than we fought, AND ALSO LOST THAT WAR THOUGH BEING SAD FAILURES!!! ; then the vote thing was fixed, but it was fixed in the wrong way -- by lowering emancipation age it meant daddy no longer has to pay! UNFAIR!"

phf: i didn't realize it was written by a guy. i've not encountered that whole cuck behavior until i came to u.s. i suppose i remember men like that growing up, but they were explicitly recognized and condemned

phf: i suppose the usual suspects were making inroads, perhaps in 20 years it will not be obvious why high pitched sjw is a "google" concern

mircea_popescu: 90s a lot dumber than originally thought, in the us.

midnightmagic: +1 Gesha Esmeralda coffee. It's a sin to drink it anyway but black.

mircea_popescu: i'm not much of a coffee drinker, in general. but when i live here i take a few months to turn into utter fiend. then if i move away it goes away.

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 11:47 midnightmagic: Also, may I point people to you as a source of SKS historical data?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1720072 << heh, the next day after http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719442 huh ? tell you what, wait until it's back on, then ignore the matter for a few years, then when it next is down or anything come back and ask that. ☝︎☝︎☟︎

midnightmagic: Also, may I point people to you as a source of SKS historical data? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: Americans to enter a very low-odds US-work-permit raffle. Jeff Wheelhouse, sysadmin for Internet Direct, was soon bombed into oblivion by world-wide complaints. He told the New York Times this caused Internet Direct computers to crash at least 15 times -- "that's when we stopped counting." Canter soon appeared on CNN's Sonya Live. Interestingly, spam was viewed as an innovation by Sonya, who hailed Canter as a Business Pionee

mircea_popescu: "The term "spam" came into broad use shortly after a famous incident on 12 April 1994. Canter and Siegel unleashed the first mega-spam against Usenet. (Cantor had done local, mini-spams before; he was now going international.) Canter spammed almost 6,000 groups in less than 90 minutes through an Internet Direct account (an Arizona Internet provider). The post was a C&S ad for the U.S. "Green Card lottery" -- a chance for non-

mircea_popescu: pretty entertaining shit, too. "Just spent an hour+ listening to @NETGEAR ProSafe support condescendingly claim a feature w/ an entire chapter in the manual doesn't exist. Finally made them download manual off their own site. "Huh. We'll try to get somebody who's heard of this to call you back… eventually." or, "Just had @MariaDB decline to give me a quote for @nfsn. They don’t deal with “staff” & say I’m too busy

asciilifeform: it's almost exactly same as a dead box.

asciilifeform: ( a 382k node will do no one any good, it spends 95%+ of time blackholed )

mircea_popescu: eh isn't that exaggerate ? it's a node, what. keep adjusting weekly ?

asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719958 << plox to remove the deceased dulap, 46.166.165.30 . and also note that 108.31.170.49 ( zoolag ) is at 382k and will remain useless as a public node for some weeks. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: but yes, in principle a chumpatron op shouldn't be losing money, seeing how they translate into reality an ideal good : the disenfranchising of idiots.

mircea_popescu: there's a 2012 and a 2013 installment.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719979 << gotta appreciate this peculiar fact : asciilifeform used nfs co. service since 2007. not misprint : a decade sharp as of a few mo. ago. with ZERO MAINTENANCE and ZERO hassle and ~zero downtime and laughed at GB/s ddoses and do i have to go on ? ☝︎☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, having read this thing you linked i actually come to like the guy, whoever he is. why the fuck isn't he in the wot ? dja have a contact ?

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 02:47 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wtf is a RAUS anyway ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-03#1719982 << i have nfi what is a raus, hearing of it for 1st time ☝︎