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phf: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/patches/phf-shiva-swank#L373 ☟︎
phf: ben_vulpes: i meant original can be nuked
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll give this some more though today as I take my turn at the homestead clearing debris
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aha
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo might actually be a good idea for qntra to establish a standard procedure to do this. << There already is. Tack a paragraph on top of it explaining its deviance from sanity and wrap the document as plaintext in block quotes
phf: mircea_popescu: what would be a higher level here?
phf: ben_vulpes: get-difficulty is a straight rip of the c from bitcoinrpc.cpp << correct way to do that one is to write get-index-best that returns block-index structure that you can get bits value from, and then have get-difficulty do all the equivalent calculations in scheme, bitshifting and all
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 15:11:22; mircea_popescu: i've been spending the ~week since the various selectatron discussions meditating on the problem. i do not believe javascript is rescuable. not withstanding all the effort derps put into it, javascript is fundamentally a broken idea that for this reason can never be useful.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 14:53:51; mircea_popescu: and speaking of "good things that ruin other good things", is it generally obvious to the esteemed b-a WHY the movement to "more women in tech", "more women in army", "more women in bla-bla" trends ? i thought it is, but then again maybe i'm the only one to whom it is.\
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 14:45:10; mircea_popescu: from what i hear lisp is "already standardized". i personally am not terribly persuaded by this claim, but will entertain it on a technical basis as the cases may come. who knows, maybe gabriel was right and it is.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 14:44:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417192 <<< current shiva is two steps away from even ~beginning~ the process of standardization. people with lisp experience will supply common but ultimately inconsequential conventions (hyphens plox!), but in general speaking, shiva's usage and lisp's general lack of practical usage or utility means that our work here will actually standardize LISP ju
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 14:37:30; mircea_popescu: Оборонно-массовая и патриотическая работа, ie what the whores (see То знай: за честь должна считать Знакомство юнкерского хуя!) and their litter does.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 07:43:07; ben_vulpes: i recommend a thorough course of benjies, piped straight through the developer funnel.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417227 << i think mircea_popescu would rather chew off his own fingers than pay programmers for whatever. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 15:31:38; mircea_popescu: oh, and something for muscovites an' aspiring muscovites in the audience : http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc97rkXYRr1rfxsvfo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: oh, and something for muscovites an' aspiring muscovites in the audience : http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc97rkXYRr1rfxsvfo1_1280.jpg ☟︎
mircea_popescu: omfg. "users by lines, last 7 days 1.) asciilifeform 1490 2.) mircea_popescu 1276" << NOOOOOOOOO
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 09:13:37; ben_vulpes: what i appear to have forgotten since the last time i looked into this pit of snakes is that it calls all of the rpc functions in turn to construct the help list.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 08:22:54; punkman: mircea_popescu: .. supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19 << I like the command line sure, but I find editing text without a mouse a hassle, same for trying to remember 1000 keyboard shortcuts for each of 100 apps, or having to spend 10 minutes to figure out obscure cli options to use something once.
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/4dc9de1ffa726de86d8a1e8b40be897e/tumblr_mh3h7n1FfW1qddd4so1_1280.jpg
punkman: ben_vulpes: second part isn't needed, sasl happens before the client can join anything
AaronvanW: punkman ben_vulpes: will look into that, thanks
AaronvanW: ben_vulpes: ah. any way to fix that?
punkman: ben_vulpes: because I guess nGPL is a global used somewhere else
phf: ben_vulpes: you can now control the universe
punkman: mircea_popescu: .. supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19 << I like the command line sure, but I find editing text without a mouse a hassle, same for trying to remember 1000 keyboard shortcuts for each of 100 apps, or having to spend 10 minutes to figure out obscure cli options to use something once. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 03:38:49; phf: 1) brew install cmake 2) patch < foo.patch 3) link_directories and include_directories in CMakeList.txt need to point to be modified to point to your boost/db4/openssl locations 4) mkdir foo; cd foo; cmake ..; make
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 05:38:28; phf: asciilifeform: i think he's looking for a way to slice scheme into an arbitrary part of bitcoind, like CInv inv = scheme_apply('inv-process', cons(...));, unless i'm mistaken, but seems confirmed later in log
phf: asciilifeform: i think he's looking for a way to slice scheme into an arbitrary part of bitcoind, like CInv inv = scheme_apply('inv-process', cons(...));, unless i'm mistaken, but seems confirmed later in log ☟︎
assbot: 4 results for 'IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK
asciilifeform: !s IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 02:14:54; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the thinking behind using IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK in shiva.cpp?
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 02:49:59; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417087 << what did ben_vulpes mean here ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 04:08:36; mircea_popescu: phf> i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http << quite.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417141 << i actually wrote it for entirely other reason but only made it public because mircea_popescu suggested curing the rpc retardation ☝︎
phf: 1) brew install cmake 2) patch < foo.patch 3) link_directories and include_directories in CMakeList.txt need to point to be modified to point to your boost/db4/openssl locations 4) mkdir foo; cd foo; cmake ..; make ☟︎
ben_vulpes: dash/hyphen conventions alive, ^^ asciilifeform, phf, mod6_, mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: #> (btc_connections)
phf: ben_vulpes: http://paste.lisp.org/display/308410
phf: ben_vulpes: in order to support any sort of rewrite of existing code, need to figure out how to have scheme runtime created at bitcoind start and that runtime allowing for reentry
phf: ben_vulpes: so the way thing works right now, is that when you connect a new instance of scheme runtime is created, which is then fed init.scm and connected to the network stream fd. right now the pattern that we have is from inside a running instance you can call out into trb and make it do things
mircea_popescu: speaking of box-chess : http://41.media.tumblr.com/1bf6111f15b131dbef04c23c3b19e74d/tumblr_mf8kskjRLp1s0gddxo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: lol
phf: ben_vulpes: depends on what you're trying to do
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the thinking behind using IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK in shiva.cpp? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously though it is far more refreshing than YAJE, Yet Another Jackoffscript Evangelist
mircea_popescu: and in other "here's my face" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/8e7e56c4b6c0334a54523406120211ed/tumblr_mjie6rz8Se1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ben_vulpes and everyone else into supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nice ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: 4) http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160131/asciilifeform_shiva_fix_flag_bug.vpatch?sha1=8e9f57bf90fc32f4c3bdd88adfb449edd3b93e3c
asciilifeform: 3 ) http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160128/asciilifeform_shiva_part_2_of_2.vpatch?sha1=abc9c21e3c86e7a540b20e49a6ebc86017758e48
asciilifeform: 2) http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160128/asciilifeform_shiva_part_1_of_2.vpatch?sha1=8d22942ffc97296845fad81c3a78acfdf54af23a
ben_vulpes: so to recap: tinyscheme_genesis, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, and then flag_bug_fix?
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 20:40:43; ben_vulpes: tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct?
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << press genesis_fixed, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, rename tinyscheme to shiva, recompile yes? asciilifeform phf ^^
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: That's because Cascadia isn't real 'Murica
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: ? Wasn't bow grendade Rambo First Blood part 2?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this is for the first time in like a decade i ever remotely felt like visiting that place. << All Cascadians coalesce to Jewish culture
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: remind me specifically why geodesic
mircea_popescu: ok, fine, how about http://49.media.tumblr.com/afa2f5ceb8c86cbee99dea8b4f7bc183/tumblr_ms96d8vnPV1qlne6uo1_500.gif ?
mircea_popescu: in other face news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/128df28123993d09d38ea880329c8639/tumblr_mjtpa58NGR1ro2gueo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: i had no idea ben_vulpes was a pashtun.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: out of curiosity, 'no way' ~what~ specifically
ben_vulpes: and mircea_popescu what jr high classmates lol
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: think for a minute, about the peculiar nature of crypto.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in case you slept through the thread, there are no public implementations in the ordinary sense, of whatever kind.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: to get briefly back to the cramer shoup thing, i am very much curious re: who is going to review it, and how
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so he's going to be chevy to his jr high class ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> you get a name in this family when you take out your first irs agent << bwahahaha
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what did you name the boy anyway
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 01:38:57; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415038 << i suggest that it is done 1) no earlier than 4th 2) no earlier than working cramershouptron is posted 5) paid not to my earthly carcass but to snsa piggy - under whose flag it will be published.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: that, i answered a while back, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-02-2016#1415070 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presently in the terminal to the left, slowly postgresqlating
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes atm i'm just trying to politely temper the fellow's enthusiasm and un-allergenically redirect more of his efforts towards practical if boresome matters.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 19:50:12; mircea_popescu: well lessee here, one of mod6 ben_vulpes give an opinion on this ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes these terms have meanings you distinguish how ?
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 18:35:59; ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the other end of pederasty ☟︎
asciilifeform: don't get me wrong, i very much see the mircea_popescutronic perspective here.
asciilifeform: perhaps on mircea_popescu's planet, that is what is to fuck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if there were a type of turnip-cum-cunt that could be fucked, right there in your garden's soil, would you ?
asciilifeform: i can't really disagree with mircea_popescu.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look also in the log, i think it just got fixed 1/2 hr ago
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 17:54:40; ben_vulpes: v99997. not that anyone could be reasonably expected to know that that's 2 degrees out of date.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ikr ?
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 17:16:12; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla ? mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought he quit doing this ????
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al : possibly a neglected subject in the wiki, trb site, etc. is where the hell a n00b is supposed to get pubkeys.
assbot: the_real_bitcoin [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/238YcVW )
danielpbarron: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin << updated, let me know if I messed something up
hdbuck: @ben_vulpes now i got this http://dpaste.com/2N5V06F
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this thing where outdated crud floats around, confusing people, drove me to madness long before v etc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i get that
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aaand ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: is this supposed to highlight a line ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ? ☟︎