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mircea_popescu: "so what if make sucks, not like i have the responsibility to find and support an improvement. i just type here."
mircea_popescu: decimation no. jwzery. this attitude whereby one's excused from political involvement.
asciilifeform: decimation: there are plenty of 'crackpot' alternatives ('cmake', 'bake', .... 1001 others) but guess what
mod6: so if you have a linux machine, and you want to help test, read this: http://dpaste.com/17V9VKB
decimation: it's not like it 'fits into the cpu' like C does
decimation: asciilifeform: if make is so terrible, why is it ubiquitous?
asciilifeform: (compare 'physical settlement' in btc to gold, etc)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i'm rather surprised it took them so long to hook up the goldpricedumpatron to btc
mod6: yeah, makefiles are touchy
asciilifeform: that's why my orig. thing was a .sh
asciilifeform: 'make' simply doesn't react well to being called from 'make'.
mod6: yup, it just simply utilizes the makefile. but this way a person only has to run `auto.sh`
asciilifeform was simply too lazy to write a proper 'makefile'
asciilifeform: mod6: neato. incidentally that's what, traditionally, 'make' is for
mod6: what's changed? 1) added some checks to see if boost,bdb,openssl are already built, if so, skip re-downloading & building 2) added a 'clean' command line parameter so you don't have to do this manually
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2015/03/blythe-masters-to-head-wall-street-invasion/
mod6: so i made some additional changes to the modified pogo script. anyone wanna help me test quick? I tested it myself, but it'd be cool if someone else can verify.
asciilifeform: 'mil-std-1750a' for the curious. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: (and are also the only, afaik, remaining users...)
asciilifeform: around same time as ada '83
mircea_popescu: lawl. this guy misread so much of recent history i'm giving up on reading it.
mircea_popescu: above were being made and enforced with no government oversight. So the Government convened some hearings. The unanimous consensus, even by Ralph Nader, was that attempting to regulate this process was an invitation to chaos. "
mircea_popescu: ey usually end up being workable. After two decades of fumbling, we have settled on a de facto standard for computer operating systems. It has imperfections - some serious - but it generally works. Imagine being saddled with a computer architecture defined by some central planning committee in 1983. At about that time, someone in the U.S. Government realized with horror that all the standardization agreements mentioned
mircea_popescu: "In Western democracies, even in the U.S. where the hostility to regulation is greatest, there is a vast amount of central decision-making, but day to day decisions are left to market forces. A lot of the regulation - everything from bolt threads to type fonts - is carried out by tens of thousands of standardization agreements worked out by the industries involved. The solutions that arise aren't always optimal, but th
asciilifeform: http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Farmer-MusaPedestris/bing-out-bien-morts.html << but also from twain 'prince&pauper'
asciilifeform: 'Bien Darkmans then, Bouse Mort and Ken The bien Coves bings awast, On Chates to trine by Rome-Coves dine, For his long lib at last.' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
decimation: yeah it's the same root https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kennen#German "From Old High German kennan, from Proto-Germanic *kannijaną (“to know”). Cognate to English ken (“knowledge, understanding”)."
asciilifeform: 'Down came good Freya, frowning at Fúfu. / Said she to the warren-born: "No worth I find / In your smiting of cheese-thieves. Smirk not, but obey me...'
mircea_popescu: "holy shit all these cocks neighing!"
mircea_popescu: time for bed, and in the early morning a very morose londoner sat with his breakfast.
mircea_popescu: so one time when a horse neighed, he got all scared. but the farmer told him to relax, horse just does that, it's called neighing and it never killed anyone.
mircea_popescu: which was impressive to him, because a) they had food and b) good living conditions (as compared to shitlondon of the time)
mircea_popescu: the story is, that a london redditard (poor kid from periphery) visited some peasant family once
decimation: wasn't there a certain church bell
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone know how cockney got to be called that ? ☟︎
assbot: Kenning si rhyming slang pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ed3Glu )
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mircea_popescu: as in this poetic device
asciilifeform: everyone who likes kennings, straight to norse book, 'do not pass go, do not collect 200'
mircea_popescu: one's categorical symbolization, the other's a kenning.
mircea_popescu: anyway : "the sea" is the hellespont (which is what xerxes ordered flogged) in the same way hron (whale's) rade (road) is the sea.
asciilifeform: hey what can i do in barbaric tongue
mircea_popescu: (i'll help by pointing out that alf's device in discussing xerxes is structurally similar but stylistically very indicative of the changes in society since then)
mircea_popescu: i used to know a guy publishing one
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: believe or not - there are idish newspapers in usa.
decimation: english arose because some retarded vikings living in the netherlands couldn't speak german
asciilifeform: irrc it was him who was asked 'was fr. rev. a good idea?' answered 'too early to say'
mircea_popescu: heck, folks still speak greek. and it's certainly more mutually intelligible with classical greek than current english with high english.
mircea_popescu: hence the scare quotes
decimation: plus the history of the french revolution is still shrouded by those who have a stake in its outcome
decimation: yeah, but the french revolution is a clean presentation of the modern 'revolutionary intellectual' and the consequences if he gains power
mircea_popescu: look into the abomination of "courtly love" to see 1100ad shitgnomism en fleur.
mircea_popescu: or the byzantine byzantine. or the medieval courtier.
mircea_popescu: depends how you count the greek sophist.
decimation: mircea_popescu: of course the french philosophes pretty much founded the 'revolutionary intellectual' archetype
mircea_popescu: youth wasted on the young and all that.
mircea_popescu: decimation this is the so called stupid wife paradox. it goes like this : when she's young she thumbs her nose at submission, because hey, she's not "that kind of girl". so she finds a husband instead, spends two-three decades discovering that it's a rotten deal, then gets to live with teh regret.
mircea_popescu: dude, la revolucion is so fucking banal. always the same moves.
decimation: heh yeah that is related
mircea_popescu: ahaha treason of the intellectuals verbiage, srlsy ?!
asciilifeform: and of course, the obligatory lenin, 'intellectual is not his nation's head, but its arse'
decimation: reminds me of that tlp piece about hating the system so much you want it to like you
assbot: Treason of the Intellectuals, Volume 3 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ed2e2r )
decimation: ^ author of the above was in army, had a son in the army, son died in iraq
asciilifeform: xerxes whips the sea, snore.
decimation: re: the unmitigated contempt california holds for... well, basically, you. < yes, this is noted. every day reveals a bit more of its true self, if only in its fantasies
mircea_popescu: i thought it was pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: kinda goes a long way to show the unmitigated contempt california holds for... well, basically, you.
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trinque: decimation: eh more like "one member of the california legislature proposes"
assbot: California Proposes Bill To Ban All Unlicensed Bitcoin Businesses, Without Even Defining What That Means | Techdirt ... ( http://bit.ly/1B6cqFd )
mircea_popescu: (pete will no doubt notice that ALL THE VEHICLES ARE MERCEDES_
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/0f0cffa45644dd67ee622259992191ab/tumblr_n1h3x5MeFW1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg to go with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HPfmvaWRw
BingoBoingo: ^ thestringpuller
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BsujTN )
jurov: should have implied vatican, it incorporated roman laws, too
danielpbarron: in that if you have instructions that work for the purple one, the will also work for the blue one
danielpbarron: fyi the "blue" pogo (the one that doesn't have sata port) is works just like the purple one would if installing to a SD card
trinque: it's strange, the load average on the box is 0.24
trinque: I'll look into that, meanwhile let me know if it ever eats your deed
cazalla: i'll just stick to pm'ing it so that i can throw a bunch of commands until i get what it is i need and no-one here will be the wiser
cazalla: trinque, forgot about upping the thing, i'm hung over :)
cazalla: so do i include the : ? deedbot- pm'd me with "Bad URL or network outage"
mircea_popescu: better this way, the less the sks servers are involved the better.
cazalla: trinque: where key is your gpg public key <<< for some reason i thought i read bot imported pub key from wot, my bad
mircea_popescu: nttawwt, but don't imagine slaves come to sense through any process that doesn't involve clubbing them into the dirt.
mircea_popescu: and you know exactly how it'll go : the usg horde will derp their derpage, most idiots of the jwz ilk will "not want to pick the political bone" and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> I'm thinking programmable light switch with ethernet port << this is kinda how this process is going as is. hence the cardano.
trinque: maybe version 5 of the thing gets a USB port
trinque: understands the thing the whole way through, demonstrates its superiority against everything that's been ravaged by hax
trinque: they're all going to get hacked and fucked with like it's 90s windows all over again
trinque: all these shitty boards like the rpi are going to be making their way into all kinds of "smart" products
trinque: here's the opportunity I see; maybe I'm wrong
chetty: isn't the new apple watch thing planned that way? chip is not replaceable
ascii_field: that you would like to see starring in this film, so to speak
ascii_field: trinque: let's hear the actual part #s
trinque: but then I'd just say aim for something dumber
ascii_field: don't take my word for it!
trinque: I'm sure you're right about that
ascii_field: and when the product is something like ready to use in life - bam.