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decimation: for instance, hardly any jurisdictions use 'torrens title'
decimation: well, I agree that it would make sense to do things that way
mircea_popescu: it's not usually made much of, but the sensible way to take stuff like famous artpieces is exactly real estate.
mircea_popescu: and so are titles of various kinds - such as to mineral rights, or whatever.
mircea_popescu: take for instance "(7) Standing timber growing on land which belongs to the same person as the timber."
mircea_popescu: decimation always see the actual source. http://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=458-12-010
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/i0jvyiv.gifv << This kid has his priorities straight.
decimation: http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1727 < I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding of the term 'real property' is that it only includes the land and immovable improvements
mircea_popescu: the remedies available distinguish the nature of property, and the remedies for chattels (your "personal" property) are of same value, because chattels are fungible.
mircea_popescu: very much doubt it, seeing how the above is at common law.
decimation: I think this might be a difference between common and continental law
mircea_popescu: that's why if i steal your house i am ordered to give you back ~your house~ but if i steal your bottle of beer i am ordered to pay you for a beer.
mircea_popescu: real estate is that estate which is identifiable in itself, rather than by its characteristics.
mircea_popescu: that's just shorthand, "oh, real estate is that estate which can not move"
mircea_popescu: it has its own variant of torens title and everything.
decimation: certainly some signed document that says "I bequeath X to Y" would be helpful in any reasonable court
thestringpuller: is it just me or does this tank look ghetto: http://i.imgur.com/KTwWOdk.jpg
mircea_popescu: obv, fake title will be constructed by convention, but hey. not unlike saying "the moon belongs to X"
decimation: in the us title to personal property is rarely documented (outside of automobiles)
mircea_popescu: no one has any title to any bitcoin.
ben_vulpes: is the private key not adequate title?
ben_vulpes: how does title to bitcoins work?
mircea_popescu: gifts are nice and good but for unperishables it is always a good idea to obtain a piece of paper too. any golddigger knows this.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2015#1064076 << the problem is they didn't have title. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 16:17:10; asciilifeform: re: picasso article: i can easily imagine a 'Dark Future of Hello Kitty' (TM) where a plebe found with ten fifty is prosecuted because 'he could only have obtained them by stealing from j.p.morgan, stop telling lies, there's no other way'
mircea_popescu: what is this, the 70s ?
mircea_popescu: "While the collection has not been officially valued, reports in the French and international press have estimated that it could be worth as much as 120 million euros, or about $130 million."
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 14:05:31; nubbins`: the only reason MP gets away with being a prick is because his articles are circuitous enough that it's not worth the effort to construct counter-arguments
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 13:57:41; nubbins`: 'cause if that's the case, jamaica must be *unbearable*
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2015 09:18:50; trinque: I think we just solved it, representative democracy is a trauma I can no longer acknowledge exists
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/more-problems-of-meta/
mircea_popescu: i intend to use it for the eulora new accounts process, and well...
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron hey, mind writing a "for total noobs" guide for deedbot in the b-a wiki ?
funkenstein_: apparently grammar too restrictive
funkenstein_: came with a free difficult to decipher t-shirt that says "entropy this ease freedom"
funkenstein_: got my mycelium stuxnet entropy in the mail yesterday
decimation: it's not strictly historical but the main author was a journalist who covered the baltimore police for a long time
decimation: cazalla: The Wire is a pretty good take on how life in the 'big city' works in the us - and its bureaucracy
decimation: jurov: Luther has many great writings. Unfortunately most of those who belong to churches that he founded have tended to overlook his writings
mircea_popescu: btw, about the fat thread : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/fat.png
punkman: you dig up the wrong thing, you no longer can use your land.
punkman: the island with the bulls and the Minoans
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/t86Heg7.jpg this happens often around here, but most people don't have the money to build around it
jurov: they explicitly mention the judge had no evidence they are stolen. hence the outrage
punkman: is there even any evidence of the picasso works being stolen? maybe davout can find better article
Pierre_Rochard: jurov: once irs catches air of them, they’re 39.6% less useful
jurov: at least, once irs catches air of them?
jurov: haven't you just argued that for you, half a mil btc is equally as useless as that picasso?
asciilifeform: only buys you a ticket to the jail.
asciilifeform: but if you have a picasso - it is nothing without also having the blue blood.
asciilifeform: if you have half a mil btc, you actually have them
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asciilifeform: is it any wonder, given this picture, that homo redditicus wishes to mangle hierarchy, even if it nukes civilization? it seems as logical as wishing to stab the guards, given the chance, when you're imprisoned in auschwitz. ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 03:29:02; mircea_popescu: making money is a purely ~political~ function. if you are among the favoured elite of the respublica veneta, you then may invest in the ships, and make a profit. if not, not. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 03:29:25; mircea_popescu: if you are one of the people buying belgian rubber concessions on the stock exchanges, you make money. if you're in africa, you make quick with the hands and feet.
asciilifeform: because, among other things, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-03-2015#1044115 ☝︎
asciilifeform: the picasso thing is a mega-l0l
asciilifeform: not nationalized as such (perhaps if it were confiscated to put in museum ?) but given to a designated darling of the state
asciilifeform: re: picasso article: i can easily imagine a 'Dark Future of Hello Kitty' (TM) where a plebe found with ten fifty is prosecuted because 'he could only have obtained them by stealing from j.p.morgan, stop telling lies, there's no other way' ☟︎
jurov: "It seems I must have liars and villains for opponents. I am not worthy in the sight of God that a godly and honorable person should discuss these matters with me in a Christian way. This is my greatest lament."
jurov: http://ergofabulous.org/luther/ luther was naggum of his time :D
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asciilifeform: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/20/french-court-orders-picassos-electrician-to-return-nearly-300-artworks << bezzle lords have legal title to the bezzle, it seems
asciilifeform: nubbins`: though i also recall from his logs that a great many ran off cliffs also
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i thought the arawaks were picked off for target practice by columb's crew
nubbins`: punkman:I'd put The Wire in the top ten though, I quite enjoyed it <<< +1
nubbins`: bit late to claim that you really wanted to see "jamaica" if you're complaining that the guy selling beads on the beach wouldn't polish your knob
nubbins`: bask in the glory of being surrounded by wholly artificial personalities in wholly artificial surroundings
nubbins`: if you want to see respectful reverence, stay at a resort
nubbins`: consider that "respectful reverence" (lel) is precisely a waste of time in such situations. if their first impression is that you're an asshole, why would they go further? almost certainly it's not worth the effort. save the smiles for the 200 other suckers who were on your plane, and who will gladly open the wallet
nubbins`: "the Jamaican people by and large, though we’ve certainly seen exceptions, have much to learn when it comes to treating their patrons with the respectful reverence they deserve" <<< you've *got* to be taking the piss here.
nubbins`: and FWIW most of the arawaks (native to jamaica) were sold into slavery or died from smallpox. they still have blood in the caribbean, just not in jamaica
nubbins`: but if you lay it all bare, saggy tits flopping to the sides... don't expect people to kiss it
nubbins`: the only reason MP gets away with being a prick is because his articles are circuitous enough that it's not worth the effort to construct counter-arguments ☟︎
nubbins`: i dunno, man. this whole article gets a C-
nubbins`: "sourcing their ingredients from within spitting distance, thus keeping the revenue in the local economy" <<< you mean keeping their /expenditures/ in the local economy. their revenue goes elsewhere, unless they're the ones buying all the dimebags. ☟︎
nubbins`: "So that the locals here seemvii to have an unwarranted expectation of my generosity" <<< unwarranted how? every whitey that goes to jamaica spends a ton of money.
nubbins`: anyway, third-world tourism is an interesting thing
nubbins`: 'cause if that's the case, jamaica must be *unbearable* ☟︎
nubbins`: pete_dushenski are you advancing the opinion that colombian touts are nicer or friendlier than jamaican touts?
mats: fun fact: Chrome has an entire PDF serializer just for print preview - it creates a PDF of the page and then renders that in PDFium.
fluffypony: ;;later tell BingoBoingo what http://i.imgur.com/pFgteaX.jpg
punkman: I don't particularly care since I don't live in Tuvalu or wherever
punkman: "Meanwhile, the summer minimum ice extent reached in the Antarctic was one of the highest recorded"
trinque: as for the glaciers, I am not informed enough to know whether they'd be dumping into the ocean with or without us
trinque: I think we just solved it, representative democracy is a trauma I can no longer acknowledge exists ☟︎
trinque: we being this insane social aggregate I'm forced to participate in
trinque: we are so ill equipped to deal with any problem rationally, let alone sea level rise
trinque: maybe if we tell the glacier it's triggering us with its microaggression, it'll stop
fluffypony: also it's just the top of the iceberg that is exposed to the sun, most of it is underwater so it's fine
fluffypony: trinque: obviously it's a good thing, it means more water, and since the advent of quality bottled water the consumption of water around the globe has increased
punkman: "after a while, she had to return to the safe space. “I was feeling bombarded by a lot of viewpoints that really go against my dearly and closely held beliefs,” "
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trinque: later, teaching the controversy! is glacial melt a bad thing?
trinque: punkman: that ad... incredible
punkman: maybe I should grab that remastered version
punkman: I'd put The Wire in the top ten though, I quite enjoyed it
cazalla: every boardwalk empire went to shit in the last 2 seasons
cazalla: punkman, agreed, i only watched a season or two of that before giving up.. same shit every episode
punkman: cazalla: I'd say most overrated has to be Walking Dead these days