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assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 18:50:31; funkenstein_: i saw something about keccak, afaik maxcoin has the highest hash rate of all keccak coins at the moment

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure everybody knows about the surface torpedo etc

nubbins`: funkenstein_ merciless mercantile morals!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it gives excuse to munge every single executable on the box

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is sorta like a cache for dynamic linking

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is a highly bizarre idiot hack nominally to 'save cycles' but really 'because ftmeade asked'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is no legit thing called prelinking

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1183 << i had nfi this existed. a whole own poetteringism, hilarious, touches ~all binaries on affected pseudolinuxen, ruins aslr and number of other things, random (!) crashes, ardent defenders (ahaha), etc.

phf: trinque: i say, press to polarbeard_remove_shrink_debug_file, then patch -p1 < polarbeard_better_log_messages, then vpatch the result, then do same for polarbeard_add_getpeerinfo_rpc. that's sort of easiest, fastest way to regrind

asciilifeform: funkenstein_: link plox ?

asciilifeform: funkenstein_: i mean, ~other~ than it being a hardphork

asciilifeform: funkenstein_: which problems ?

phf: depends on deprecated asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum's version of main.cpp

phf: trinque: yeah, polarbeard_better_log_messages depends on a conflicting patchset

asciilifeform: as per mircea_popescu's article

asciilifeform: funkenstein_: keccak-with-hash-over-arbitrary-blocks-pulled-from-chain

trinque: wb funkenstein_

trinque: http://dpaste.com/179T4JC.txt << bad press with polarbeard_add_getpeerinfo_rpc.vpatch ☟︎

trinque: anyhow, looks like polarbeard_add_getpeerinfo_rpc.vpatch needs rebasing

asciilifeform: so why is mircea_popescu eating cake and not rusty nails ?

asciilifeform: i can see it already: harem gurl: 'i stepped on rusty nail!' mircea_popescu: 'here's an impregnation, perhaps after 20 generations your descendants will have shell armour on their feet'

asciilifeform: and this is where we find out that mircea_popescu stands outside heat death.

asciilifeform: i commiserate that mircea_popescu thinks the 'idiot god' of hill-climbing optimizer is 'intelligence'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu lives on mt olympus with the other godz and naturally gives not a fuck

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 11:27:35; mircea_popescu: intelligence is an adaptive behaviour ; which is why anyone with a clue would rather spend the time chatting up a random whore or street urchin than some jewish princess or "young exec".

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ah so you tried it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw the mask set i published here will build a depoetteringized (though not dedrepperized) gentoo, which will stay that way. but various more or less essential items, e.g., 'wireshark', will not build.

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 11:03:11; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433648 << not afaik. if you don't count various people (including alf most recently) on various occasions throwing their hands up in disgust at the dysfunctional pos.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by implication, from various mircea_popescu gripes about tx-sending.

asciilifeform: mircea_popesc-fixed

asciilifeform: i kinda assumed formerly that mircea_popescu fixed it in his

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: knapsack problem is this np-complete boojum for which you can, yes, have various crapsack approximations

jurov: mircea_popescu: pls to mpex

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is the clear winner in the moar-orc contest.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well traditionally it is whatever the tax is, no ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: megalopolis dies without either a) subway or b) the folks who work there, living there

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 14:46:24; mircea_popescu: hurr durr we're in nirvana hall.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1434153 << don't confuse with valhalla hall, with the valkyries. nirvana hall is just that 20 m^3 concrete cesspool from mircea_popescu's old article. ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 00:03:26; mircea_popescu: isn't lying fun.

adlai: ( for the heathens - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dan#Killing_the_Buddha )

assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 01:52:22; mircea_popescu: the alternative is nothing. murder's not something to be explained.

adlai: mircea_popescu: i wanna answer with a log link, but the search is failing so i'll quote instead: "mircea_popescu: *-cide is never justifiable"

adlai: aha looks like trinque is pulling a ben_vulpes ?

trinque: $ LC_ALL=C bitcoind listaccounts

adlai: mircea_popescu: that is such a terrible story, the child should have been spanked for chiccicide

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 11:50:11; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla and at any point prior to march 2016 i would have readily believed that. now however, is simply something i can't discern.

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 11:43:02; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433700 << this nonsense does not turn into fact merely by being uttered by mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/dc33a2028212d40e6e9ec9b9f889e90f/tumblr_nczbyyHu0n1t2qfvbo1_1280.jpg

asciilifeform: yahyah mircea_popescu has esp powerz and they aint for sale and follow him through the seven worlds etc etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu , what, threw out his capital ?

asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu nailed it, 'get on the boat with the shirt on yer back' is a kind of death-lite-version

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu this is a country where , i suspect, most folks' retirement plan is a .45 !

asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu knows that i'd be on the next flight if i were properly 13337 and knew how to pay the rentz there.

asciilifeform: then, as described in mircea_popescu's articles, they become just another player

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my reaction now is same as then, i am willing to take part in 1,000,001 variants but not in capitulation to the motherfuckng nazis

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sleep of reason breeds monsters etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the advantage is that we become distinguishable from the usual idiot attempts at self-enrichment.

adlai: mircea_popescu: correct. i was hallucinating an alternate article, which said to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433851 ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 22:10:51; ascii_field: 'we'll make trucks over five tonnes switch sides first!'

asciilifeform: i liked mircea_popescu's algo!

adlai: mircea_popescu: hmmm. ok, this is a valid question, my answer to which is: port Luke-Jr's keccak reset from "classic" to trb, and be ready to activate it, should a fork occur.

asciilifeform: adlai: read mircea_popescu's keccak article

asciilifeform: but we have, e.g., a spiffy mircea_popescutronic item from last month

adlai: mircea_popescu: you did say we may have to choose the lesser of two evils

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any alignment with a usg-enriching or dimon-enabling phork

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 10:59:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433627 << nothing you said in the lengthy diatribe following had anything at all to see with the topic proposed!

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433700 << this nonsense does not turn into fact merely by being uttered by mircea_popescu ☝︎☟︎

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i guess let them live in ignorance as long as said ignorance doesn't interfere with the adults?

adlai: well if i ever meet the guy again, i'll be sure to tell him mircea_popescu thanks him for not buying his divestment.

thestringpuller: classic starts own node cartel: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4aiiuc/hey_core_you_can_waste_your_own_resources_now/

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 23:10:27; mircea_popescu: o i forgot the jews, did i. THREE KINDS.

assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 17:24:15; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/3YZ2895.txt << preliminary crib sheet

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu have a mindphuck - turns out google admits to having jacked up the cpu core count after the single solitary lee sedol win.

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 02:56:58; phf: trinque: as per that rant only things needing pressing are asciilifeform_shiva_part_1_of_2, asciilifeform_shiva_part_2_of_2 and asciilifeform_shiva_fix_flag_bug

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 01:55:56; mircea_popescu: trinque iirc the bitcoin-derived one had two parts named 1 and 2 which you both need

assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 01:28:59; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something like "here's a list of my deepest unrelated fears" ?

adlai: mircea_popescu: i found it and submitted a second comment, but both seem to have caught in the lo-pass

phf: trinque: as per that rant only things needing pressing are asciilifeform_shiva_part_1_of_2, asciilifeform_shiva_part_2_of_2 and asciilifeform_shiva_fix_flag_bug ☟︎

adlai: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/xkcd/#comment-116782

adlai: mircea_popescu: laughing at my joke!? (nah, probably just at /me.)

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ok but i don't get what you're saying here.

trinque: I can press up to asciilifeform_tx-orphanage_amputation.vpatch

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/#footnote_7_64828

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes sorry, what ?

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 23:43:35; mircea_popescu: perhaps now is a good time to bring up http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428463 for another pass through ?

assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 10:43:46; mircea_popescu: in any case we should prolly have a strategy discussion here. paging mod6 asciilifeform jurov trinque phf an' the other interested parties.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My position is and continues to be that Trump is merely and agent of Clinton

phf: ben_vulpes: i dunno, i've seen some pathological cases in json readers, "too nesty" at 10kb could be one of them

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 03:49:42; ben_vulpes: the 'umble shoemaker, dedicated to sitting on his ass and never doing anything, will starve in this town until he turns to making fashionable shoes with heels and lace instead of the sturdy things in which men tromp through mud.

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 02:28:33; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432848 << for the record, this is a lot weaker than it seems, for reasons discussed but perhaps worth repeating : it is so trivial to transform all txn into a high/low-S of one's choosing, that there exists no actual barrier due to it.

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 02:27:13; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432845 << i dunno that this is factual, but w/e.

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 01:45:38; mircea_popescu: (perhaps this is obivous to me only for some god-forsaken reason, but the next step after the view on the bitcoin protocol that it permits miners to arbitrarily reject txn and the collusion of miners is - you gotta get a license to bitcoinate. why hardfork to increase their revenue, even.)

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 01:34:13; mircea_popescu: which is how and why chetty's passing bumped her trust in my eyes to 10 : not because she's "very good" now, but because she lacks any further capacity to surprise anyone. at least so goes the logic.

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 01:09:15; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432755 << how did that go, "yes half hour of my time and a lifetime of learning the trade" or somesuch.

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 01:03:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432744 << this is a complicated proposition. the traditional avenue of the dedicated tramp is to join a group, liberally fuck anyone but the alpha of that group, insist that the alpha marry her. this presses a very strict choice on the alpha that's not trivially resolved - if he kills her everyone else loses a fuckdoll ; if he marries her he's fucked, n

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-03-2016#1433098 << explain plox, i'm thick. ☝︎

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 13:22:14; mircea_popescu: you ARE willing to pay 50% of the money for a 72% item, and so there it is.

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 13:22:03; mircea_popescu: in the "i bet you don't understand what the bayesian approach to spam filtering turned into pretend-ai after its failure to filter spam" means for your country : the next step is for most all the jobs that are still left to be replaced by this kind of ai - it's cheaper. so you go to the hair salon and you get a hairdo - 80% of the time. hey, accidents happen, here's a free coupon for another one. and

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 03:21:23; mircea_popescu: hanbot the problem with your take on what's reasonable is that the other reasonable view is to simply say that everything's fine, nothing's wrong and there isn't nor could ever be any cause for expenditure, alarm or ultimately death. in principle this is a view that can not be dislodged, every living thing's expectation to live forever in a functional world is, misguided or not, nevertheless part and