asciilifeform: come to think of it, a little proxy box ( make out of ~anything, even pogo ) would handily do the job. think 'chinese firewall https stripper' for home lan.☟︎
asciilifeform: the 1 other httpsism i can think of that isn't escapable is www sites of iron-sellers. though for this one could use a dedicated toilet.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793393 << a quite astonishing amount of proggy, incl. items that cannot be done without unless you can make yer own ic ( errything from the lattice 'ice' proggy, to device drivers for ~100% of extant iron ) is imprisoned in shithub. nao however once it is sprung from this jail -- it is sprung.☝︎
asciilifeform: typical breakfast conv : pet:'why you still alive' a:'evidently my entire work to date not yet worth bullet'
asciilifeform: over here in marylandistan that'd get you a good sentence + confiscations automagically -- no gun in car without note from hitler Officially permitted
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought one was supposed to lose'em while fishing!11
asciilifeform: prolly long ago. can't picture why else asciilifeform , mod6 , ben_vulpes , other nato inmates doing their treasonous thing here, are still alive
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793333 << real life sadly is 'less real than cartoon', asciilifeform for instance is still waiting to be gassed for 'exporting' pgp somewhere during clinton reign, or for bolix warez, or for general unpatriotism, or jaywalking...☝︎
asciilifeform: by a 'Karin Brodie Professor of Education and Mathematics Education, University of the Witwatersrand' didjaknow.
asciilifeform: trinque: fulla gold, e.g. 'Yes, mathematics can be decolonised. Here’s how to begin'
asciilifeform: (supposing coin-bearing heathens were to appear)
asciilifeform: though will add, unlike shared-hosting service, there is little to no practical barrier to leasing these out to heathens
asciilifeform: for that matter, would also like to measure demand in l1/l2 for these, as a whole
asciilifeform: ( input from prospective users specifically invited; even if 'wish list' item, that currently dun have a reliable arm64 build )
asciilifeform: in other quasi-noose : asciilifeform currently taking suggestions re what proggies ought to live in a 'standard' arm-gentoo image that will be supplied to rockchip boxen subscribers
asciilifeform: lol next krebs will ring the alarm re 'new, exciting' (... 200 yrs ago! but who needs this detail ) scam of lifting Official seals from paper with potato
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: [insert traditional a:'i dun have a power source outside of usa reich' m:'but why not learn to eat sunlight and butterflies' thread here]
asciilifeform: it is quite impossible to learn anything nontrivial if labouring under ' i am a great master and who needs this book-larnin rubbish'
asciilifeform: at any rate such probabilities and plausibilities only even in theory matter when a d00d walks in and 'hey i am such greatness'. if walks in with pill for rsa or whichever -- dun have to ask anyone to believe anyffin. or for that matter to walk in at a..
asciilifeform: iirc we even have somebody who lives in ksh.
asciilifeform: sure. but a default that nobody uses in battlefield, is not much to brag about.
asciilifeform: ( and at future date then readily transposable to a sane, nonunixoid os )
asciilifeform: imho the long-term answer is '3rd way' , i.e. all the crud i wrote in bash, python, etc over the years really oughta be in the hypothetical little-lisp-in-ada from old thread.☟︎
asciilifeform: it is not even remotely 100% compatible with classical bash etc
asciilifeform: i find busybox to be useful on ancient routers , pogo , & similar , but quite unusable as a unixutils substitute on actual workstation
asciilifeform: good chunk of the installed packages on typical gentoo box is really liquishit
asciilifeform: and the number can probably be reduced considerably
asciilifeform: seems like maybe ~150 packages are in practice needed for a Troo Workstation
asciilifeform: well, not 'all of', but the closure-over-the-set of actually-used things
asciilifeform: ultimately ideal would be fully vtronic replacement for portage.
asciilifeform: i.e. sslism is treated as 'special' and 'precious' evidently in >1 place
asciilifeform: in particular this thought in asciilifeform's head sprung from noticing a CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK='/etc/gentoo-release /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/ca-certificates.conf' in the default environment
asciilifeform: i can see an argument for retaining an ability to emulate a sslistic client, for http-fetching heathenware when absolutely must . but beyond this -- it Must Die☟︎
asciilifeform: whole pkiism concept is deeply offensive from a republican pov.
asciilifeform: ( or at the very least, if not purged, every proggy that attempts to lean on usg.pki-ism should generate a log event )
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, trinque , ever looked into purging sslism from gentoo ? in particular the existence of /etc/ca-certificates.conf and its contents as a ~mandatory package, i find quite irritating☟︎
asciilifeform: not to mention lets any and all-comers hog sockets for as long as they can come up with fresh ip
asciilifeform: it is a little bit funny to talk of bogdown and dos 'vulnerability' in a proggy that happily does o(n) operations at the request of allcomers
asciilifeform: ave1: unrelatedly, iirc you're the one who was lucky winner of 1 phree FG ? didja get it yet ?
asciilifeform: at any rate, rockchip pilot-plant boxen will boot from sd and mount usb3 stick for root partition.
asciilifeform: appears to be harmless, the retry-read always succeeds
asciilifeform: ave1: nah , no led. log noise. and documented, apparently, issue , with some brands of sd, going back years
asciilifeform: ave1: we had just the other day a thread re 'gnat pro'. it's interesting, in principle, but i sure as fucking daylight ain't ever signing nonredistribution oaths for a compiler☟︎
asciilifeform: fwiw it dun hurt to try. ftr, asciilifeform's orig interest in reading the src, long before even running into mircea_popescu et al , was precisely this.
asciilifeform: considering the very tangible win from any such thing, going back years
asciilifeform: trinque: theoretically 'every private has a marshal's baton in his knapsack', but realistically it is not esp. likely that 'popping trb' had to wait for this 1 d00d to turn 19 or what he was.☟︎
asciilifeform: ave1: the surprising bit is the total absence of any mention of a working gnat for arm64 ( despite it being a quite common chip for several yrs )
asciilifeform: ave1: i did one for mips ( never properly tested tho ) a few yrs back
asciilifeform: potentially interesting, i did not to date consider it. dun forget tho that they get ~infinite pile of printolade from lockheed, boeing, et al.
asciilifeform: not even sure it's a separate proggy; possibly more of a same-proggy + support contract
