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mircea_popescu: in other grandeurs, this place is a bona fida meteorological observatory. i sat over pasta and watched a complete cloud system move across the sky. here the sky's blue, here's the coming cloud front, there's rain...

a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 15:58 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1740127 << i wouldn't be too worried, trilema serves up to 5k simultaneous connections off a single box.

mircea_popescu: mmm, i dunno that we have a gentoo equivalent of this deeded anywhere.

ben_vulpes: heh i was just reading about that

asciilifeform: i've thought about investigating whether gcc4 can be made to build on fabrice bellard's tinycc

shinohai: Ah yeah somehow I had forgotten that *DUH* is part of trb

ben_vulpes: yeah i have one of those as well but also ew

asciilifeform: ( yes i could post a known-worked stage3. but eww )

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'd like to find a pill for this problem that doesn't involve preserving a magic binturd in amber

ben_vulpes: i don't really know how to apply your use flags to the creation of a new gentoo then. i do have an older gentoo box that is pretty faithful to the crapolade flags, has gcc but don't really have a map for making that produce a root fs that i can put on another box or what even the correct way to go about doing what i want to do

ben_vulpes: more likely i made a mistake

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did that, but i believe that 5 snuck in from stage3. at the time i got loads of errors about 5 being present on the system in violation of use flag specification, attempted to purge but this did not result in a usable box somehow

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am well aware, yeh

ben_vulpes: i couldn't find a stage3 with 4.9 on it when i needed it for this machine, and so got 'phuqed'

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah i have now pissed upon this electrified fence as well

ben_vulpes: hey trinque do you still have that script for "infectious gentoo"? i might be able to get my old closet iron with 4.9 to build a respectable userland ☟︎

asciilifeform: nao iirc there is finally a gnat built on 5. but i have not tried it, and can't yet think of a reason to try it

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i tried recently to build a chroot with 4 from the machine with 5 to no avail

shinohai: ben_vulpes: I had 0 luck until gcc 4.9.4

diana_coman: or a knot I suppose; note*

mircea_popescu: and people who cut off their own leg to spite the doctor do exist from what i hear.

diana_coman: well, I get what you mean i.e. that's the zero, yes; however ...constructs of stupidity do...exist, what can I say

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'd say plenty *poorer* than children actually; I can't see how is "adult" with debt and whatnot "richer" than child

shinohai: Since it is from Romanian brujas, I bet it worx

mircea_popescu: i get abo9ut one a week but this one's very good

asciilifeform: returning to dictionaries -- it's a piton, for penetrating the otherwise impenetrable n00b texts ( e.g. children's lit ) . not a 'hey i am nigerian and i found an englisch dictionary and nao i speak to you about our road to riches and fame'

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they can take their "yoni"s and shove them, i'm too busy archeologisting actual things to be bothgered with "but mp, before going to shit india was interesting". had i lived before it went to shit, i might've persuaded by this.

mircea_popescu: now, one could say "but of course, mp is rich, man of leisure". except... i STILL didn't have a particular destination / timetable as an eight year old. if anyone's ever poorer than a child...

mircea_popescu: this is also why i've not learned say sanskrit, and why i despise indians as the cultural construct. bitch, interrupted classics isn't a qualifier, if all the jews had ended in 300 ad they'd be in the same pot.

mircea_popescu: it's why i won't learn subhuman languages, such as anything black people ever made : not NEARLY enough classics to keep me interested in this manner.

mircea_popescu: i can't answer for others, but i, a man with no particular place to go and no specific time to be there, find in general the approach endlessly entertaining. go into a two day loop through whatever lang's dict after having read a phrase in some classical work.

asciilifeform: also i will note that english is a pretty poor example for this thread, it is missing so many pieces that folx who ~think~ in it are visibly handicapped in all walks of life, not merely for learning ro

asciilifeform: i won't disagree that translative dictionary is only good for reaching takeoff velocity, and folx who try to ~write~ using one, rather than using years of actual literature eaten, are in a state of sin

mircea_popescu: gains ~not just for the "new" language~! the old one as well! i'm a much better english speaker than absolutely any esl speaker BECAUSE i speak a bunch of other languages that ARE NOT english, which STRENGTHENS my english.

a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.

a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 16:12 mircea_popescu: trinque the method i recommend, if you care, is to work selections of classical texts with the dictionary ; then proceed to answer any systematic questions you have when you're sick of the slog.

asciilifeform: i'll still take it over 'learn from context' nonsense.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 21:03 mircea_popescu: i'd propose it as the standard. explicative dictionary, of course, not "translative" dictionary. this is the correct approach btw, "translation" dictionary is made of 100% sheer nonsense and not to be touched.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-18 00:19 shinohai: http://archive.is/07Oas <<< I guess no use going thru the trouble of shutting down the sybil nodes or w/e

mircea_popescu: i'd propose it as the standard. explicative dictionary, of course, not "translative" dictionary. this is the correct approach btw, "translation" dictionary is made of 100% sheer nonsense and not to be touched. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 23:07 asciilifeform: http://www.free-soft.ro/everest/everest.html has nominally ~200k but is malwareware and enciphered db ( i dun currently have time to break the delphiturd and extract the key, sadly )

mircea_popescu: some people had from hitler AND dej. i guess none of them will ALSO have from bahamas.

asciilifeform: 'i have two death sentences from clitler in absentia!' 'but i have three, nyahaha!'

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've known more than one fellow with a "us court conviction" so framed and displayed. amusingly enough, these are STILL produced.

asciilifeform: at this point i suspect the remaining ones are, to a man, chinese coolies. send'em a tax bill, they'll shrug and take it home to pekin when their tour of duty ends, frame on a wall.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a staggering ammount to the schmuck who fucks my receptionist because i can't be arsed to kill flies yet goes about pretending is human being and all that.

mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuvPhAuQFD4 << "this is over. what are you ? face facts. you're a schmuck, calling himself "graduate student" who shags my receptionist and then wants to sit at the grown-up table talking science. but it's my fault. i aaaalmost took you seriously. please go away! we have absolutely nothing to talk about. you have nothing in your pockets! you are not an agent here. you are not an agent at all!"

a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 20:44 asciilifeform: in other butthurts, https://archive.is/nw25r >> 'For M.I.T. students, this waiver keeps us from having to pay a bill of about $50,000 every year — a staggering amount, but one that is similar to the fees at many other colleges and universities. ... But under the House’s tax bill, our waivers will be taxed. This means that M.I.T. graduate students would be responsible for paying taxes on a $80,000 annual salary, when we actually e

mircea_popescu: bt~i~cino!

a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 14:20 asciilifeform: back to coreboot, fwiw i have a working build for 'pcengines'

ben_vulpes: mm i'll try that; gentoo wiki ada page said to make ADAFLAGS=${CFLAGS} ty jurov

jurov: ben_vulpes: i'd try to disable the cxx useflag (or maybe all useflags the package has, for that matter)

mircea_popescu: sorry to disappoint everyone ; but i've sold all my bitcoin and am 100% bticino hodler nao. this is the right fork guyse as it will totally win the letter ordering debate and is supported by broad letter consensus. see you all @moon soon.

mircea_popescu: i guess.

mircea_popescu: imo you solved this "i got bins, they're needed but hated" problem correctly, there.

mircea_popescu: i wasn't proposing to treat the binturds as genesis themselves, no. attached exactly in manner fg did it

asciilifeform: so genesis the text file, and it contains the turd hashes. this is what i did with fg.

asciilifeform: it's a perfectly ordinary use of sig ( supposing one remembers to write proper disclaimer, 'i sign what i found , from wherever' ) . but not of v -- the diffs aren't meaningful

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in FG, i signed binturds that i ~generated~ ( e.g. jpeg of schematic )

mircea_popescu: i would much prefer to have a v-root for whatever bios, with the binary clearly laid out, so people with the competence can take it apart. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1740127 << i wouldn't be too worried, trilema serves up to 5k simultaneous connections off a single box. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1740123 << moreover, i fully expect we'll be drawing some loser lots before we figure out exactly what we want. "intellectual property" right, "i know which kind of box works best for each of our tasks". ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 06:13 trinque: yep, I will have to do some research there myself.

ben_vulpes: likely has to do with that this box is running gcc 5.4.0, i think i have to figure out how to make a gentoo with gcc 4.9 ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i used it when i went to c3. be prepared for lotsa gate-changes/reschedules/misc crapola

ben_vulpes: somehow i missed that alibaba is in the timesharing business

shinohai: http://archive.is/07Oas <<< I guess no use going thru the trouble of shutting down the sybil nodes or w/e ☟︎

lobbes: ben_vulpes, ah okay! I hadn't thought about those browsers. I was trying to script something in lynx. Problem there was intermittent 503 errors.

lobbes: I'm changing gears to creating my own archiver. Thinking of perhaps just using wget for the time-being

asciilifeform: http://www.free-soft.ro/everest/everest.html has nominally ~200k but is malwareware and enciphered db ( i dun currently have time to break the delphiturd and extract the key, sadly ) ☟︎☟︎

ben_vulpes: i did the entire ME curriculum with the one on my desk, finally decided to get some backups.

ben_vulpes: in other wonderful old technology that is not made and barely findable any more, i cannot praise the sanford "logo ii" highly enough. the original "logo" is all right, but interestingly not quite as well made as its successor.

ben_vulpes: i'm not saying don't, i'm just being wistful about an america i never knew!

ben_vulpes: i absolutely understand this, asciilifeform .

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re 'other side', recall that usa a bestkorea where ~everything~ is, at least on paper, taxable -- e.g. if i work for a butcher and he pays me in the form of letting me buy 10 chickens a month for a 1 $ instead of 50 $ ea., this is considered taxable just the same as if he paid in buxxorz

a111: Logged on 2016-07-17 19:58 asciilifeform: 'Mr Vancel said the men were shooting at each other before the officers arrived. "This was not a 'come at police' situation they weren't targeting the police at first - I don't assume so - because these were men out here shooting at each other in an empty parking lot until the police showed up and it turned into a gun battle," he added.' << lel

ben_vulpes: to take the other side for half a second, who says that i can't charge whomever i want whatever i want for services?

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't see anyone contesting that it's not income

asciilifeform: ianal but there's a genuine eggog in there -- either that 50k is ~income~ for the chump^H^H^Hstudent; or it ain't, and it then also is not expenditure ( i.e. something to be written off taxables ) for mit

asciilifeform: in other butthurts, https://archive.is/nw25r >> 'For M.I.T. students, this waiver keeps us from having to pay a bill of about $50,000 every year — a staggering amount, but one that is similar to the fees at many other colleges and universities. ... But under the House’s tax bill, our waivers will be taxed. This means that M.I.T. graduate students would be responsible for paying taxes on a $80,000 annual salary, when we actually e ☟︎

BingoBoingo: Departures from there, particularly to greener pastures tend to inspire much hope. I don't expect many of my fellows there wake up to a battleship in their coffee though.

Ingolfr_Arnarson: I am just curious because I mentioned the idea of getting rid of dns and someone who actually reads the logs sent me a link to the article about draining the DNS Swamp.

Ingolfr_Arnarson: I was trying to find information on gossipd, followed the 'how to participate in the affairst of the republic' link on the channel automatic text you get when you enter and reached the gossipd design document.

asciilifeform: i'd quite like to have some bigendian heavy iron for 'biodiversidad'/specificity-of-diddling reason, but afaik there is none to be had ( at least in the weight class of opteron, which can haz in 32cores easily enough )

trinque: dwindling but I still find them in the usual places for scrap

asciilifeform: back to coreboot, fwiw i have a working build for 'pcengines' ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( g4, with its 4GB address space, i do not regard as very interesting )

trinque: yep, I will have to do some research there myself. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: trinque: That's the pricing I have figured out so far.

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'm in for 2

BingoBoingo: That we will. Maybe I even fall!

BingoBoingo: I am seeing 1150-1250

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo at this point i'd rather give up trying to find non-tards online, go to lawyer in uruguay have it set up there. you can internetr just as well from uruguay as from illinois or what was it.

mircea_popescu: iirc my argentine corp cost me about $700 or so to set up, though i was being generous with teh locals.

BingoBoingo: I am glad to offer: 6283 (or 5150, unclear yet if VAT'd) off the shelf SA corp including lawyer, notary, and accountant fees, 1500 to set up the rack, 600 to LACNIC as a nano size ISP for IP allotment, 5335 for first month's rack rent, 341 for fiscal address and space with lock 24/7 access to coffee pot, 1200 budgeted to switch and router (actual likely closer to half that), 3200 putting Bingo in Montevideo (actual likely less budgeting

asciilifeform: i can picture the backroom convo, 'hey how many zeros can we glue to the gringo's price' ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i see 100M per-box as reasonable low end

mircea_popescu: i r impresst.

mircea_popescu: i lost oxtail soup to these imbeciles, and i will take a pound of flesh and nothing else to make it right.

asciilifeform: i expect it will be mandatory at some point. that, or soy 'milk'.