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asciilifeform: i didn't say that i saw mircea_popescu as ~modern~ hunter, lol
asciilifeform: it may even already be the case that the cost of a ~proper~ (i.e. non-poisoned) vegetable in usgdom from the specialty shop, counting the multiple taxation (of yer own money, as 'income', of the sale, as state 'sales tax', of the growers', of the landlord's, etc ) layers, equals or exceeds the cost of growing it with own hands in a garden.
a111: Logged on 2014-01-19 19:48 mircea_popescu: i came to it studying the warrior forum (*) years ago, when i noticed the unifying factor in all their textual emissions was a desire to "make money while you sleep".
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:28 mircea_popescu: i never quite understood why gardening is universally popular.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743697 << i suspect... marx! has the pill here. entfremdung der arbeit (tm)(r) ☝︎
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu at some later point feels like showing how farmer and hunter are exactly same thing, i'll listen.
asciilifeform: well specifically i picture mircea_popescu as moar of a hunter than a farmer
asciilifeform: i've nfi from what. from the wild.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you think it is i do, all day every day ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:14 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, peasants of 1800 did not have the option of plastic or they'd have taken it just the same; that being said I still recall the communist-ro going precisely that route e.g. have now this here wonderful soya-oil just as good as the "true thing" which supposedly was... sunflower oil because nobody was supposed to even remember olive oil
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743653 << you'd be quite surprised at the variety of faux-olive oils in usa. errything from avocado to old tyres, i suspect ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 12:58 mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743518 prolly needs to be addressed better than the original "i wouldn't give a shit" : i'm ready to take over the governance of the entire world from the hands of the inept pretenders of today, as of yesterday. the result would be very ~different~, yes, but that's irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: and turn it as i might, i can't separate the former from the hallucination of self-determination. rural "king of the world" in decayed to death sicily, dying british empire, romania throughout and recently the us cultural space imagines himself... in a position to... MAKE DECISIONS!!! has options! may at his leisure obey republic or not. and so on.
mircea_popescu: this eternal duality "but what proof do you have ? and what proof do you have that your proof is proofing ???" vs "ok, so what do i do".
diana_coman: quite how I see it, yes
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i suspect this goes right to babbage's point. to paraphrase, "i prefer living in america because when i explain something the british idiots dedicate themselves to rpoving to me orally how it couldn't work while the yanks are strictly focused on how it could be sold)
diana_coman: that I have ample and repeated proof of, absolutely
diana_coman: I'm sure there were machines at that time, yes
diana_coman: he was born in 1920; fwiw even now in villages I still see them manually doing the work, what can I say
diana_coman: I don't think he realised/understood/perceived the option or he'd have gone for it as far as I can tell otherwise
mircea_popescu: yes but field work, such as wheat, is very amenable to mecanization. gardening, barely if at all. if you hate the idiocy of mother nature (which i fuklly understand, caragiale's "da, duioasa mama ce-i drept... trebuie numa' s-o bati sa-i singerezi sinul pina sa se-ndure sa-ti dea o picatura de lapte..." is a great understatement, there's nothing more loatefuly and despicable than "mother" nature) you'd expect you'd prefer its
mircea_popescu: i never quite understood why gardening is universally popular. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: an interesting application of http://trilema.com/2013/the-dead-jew-and-the-raped-girl/ i guess! guy came up with the correct strategy, and tried to implement.
mircea_popescu: poor rural modern (and i guess postmodern) societies will eat potato, it's exactly a "cheapest available" item as per above.
diana_coman: his words, I heard them lots
mircea_popescu: i suppose the criticism is that "he reduced land diffusion, in that changed a situation where 10% owned some land to a situation where 0% owned some land"
mircea_popescu: jezuz god i hate romanians.
diana_coman: I don't doubt it; precisely my point above: they will go for whatever is cheapest available regardless of anything else
diana_coman: no, I don't; we always had leather shoes/sandals and I suppose I did not really notice much what others had for shoes
mircea_popescu: so you have no recollection of this item ? i could fucking draw it. came in absurd colors too, like plastic-purple or plastic-orange
diana_coman: yes, exactly; tbh I hated the *mud* that made them a necessity, myeah
diana_coman: I remember plain and honest mud-country "gumari" and I still hated them, lol
mircea_popescu: nah, 100% injected plastic sandals for little girls. well boys too i guess, if they were faggots.
diana_coman: ugh, I thought those were modern day idiocy
mircea_popescu: diana_coman lemme see if i can fish a pic somehiw
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, peasants of 1800 did not have the option of plastic or they'd have taken it just the same; that being said I still recall the communist-ro going precisely that route e.g. have now this here wonderful soya-oil just as good as the "true thing" which supposedly was... sunflower oil because nobody was supposed to even remember olive oil ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743518 prolly needs to be addressed better than the original "i wouldn't give a shit" : i'm ready to take over the governance of the entire world from the hands of the inept pretenders of today, as of yesterday. the result would be very ~different~, yes, but that's irrelevant. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 12:53 mircea_popescu: jurov the problem is one of optics. you have not "seen paying" anyone for .achristianfamily either, but you credit the empire and discredit the republic for reasons we're invited to not misrepresent as misplaced loyalties, i guess. similarly with electrum - yes, for as long as you stick to the credit empire discredit republic mindset, it "enables" you.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743529 <- I suspect they don't afford it basically; and related, from the world that once (long time ago) was: http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2017/06/26/democratie-cu-pantaloni-fara-pantaloni-mai-mult-fara/ ☝︎
asciilifeform: hobo will regularly lose his worldly goodz, but nobody can take his 'knowing how to x without money', i suspect is the idea.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the last jailbird whose starfish wasn't regularly inspected, was herr goring
asciilifeform: i can picture.
asciilifeform: i get the impression that mircea_popescu ended up in more of a 'martian colony' position than he'd like -- stuck importing literally all of the necessities of life
asciilifeform: 'i'll take six meterz plox'
mircea_popescu: per foot of height i meant.
mircea_popescu: same reason i don't have a 4 byte index of 4bn tits.
asciilifeform: i thought whole point for him, was the cheap ?
asciilifeform: hm i pictured 'brass pole in bangkok' old fart perma-exiles
mircea_popescu: i doubt it.
asciilifeform: recall the cr food thread ? the very presence of the usa expats, i suspect makes various nice things scarce
asciilifeform: i suspect cr is in the event horizon of the unspeakable beast.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 15:20 diana_coman: ahahaha "like mircea popescu or whatever his name is, but even with him i suspect he's not anywhere near as rich as he wants people to think he is - it doesn't add up; poorly fitted suits, average looking hotel suites/condos, spends all his time living in cheap shitholes which is precisely what white people who have money to live abroad but aren't rich do)" ; from ^^
mircea_popescu: i'm like "silk" dude recognizes the word, it's like i went to fish shop in 1980. "oh, THAT is what we don't have here!!! i know what it is! it's the thing this shop doesn'thave!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743512 << gotta wonder what those phrases are plebespeak code for, in actuality. 'i dun have the things the tv people have' ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i really wouldn't gas.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 03:40 mircea_popescu: somehow nobody manages to feel even vaguely responsible for all the gains they DIDN'T realize ; much like that famous anon whore, "let me tell you what i want in exchange for what i'm willing to do" cuz it's like poorocracy over here or something now.
asciilifeform: ( i for instance have some approximate notion of how many people have an actual rng. the number is not large. )
trinque: relatedly, after last weeekend's work, I can actually write up how said anontits can receive their btc via deedbot. had to make it such that deedbot can pass over a new acct, but reliance on deedbot ends there for key to wallet mapping.
mircea_popescu: somehow nobody manages to feel even vaguely responsible for all the gains they DIDN'T realize ; much like that famous anon whore, "let me tell you what i want in exchange for what i'm willing to do" cuz it's like poorocracy over here or something now. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but linked because there were quite definitely ~somebody~ living in there. ( did not look like what i expect of bums, however. looked like people, of sorts. )
asciilifeform: #2 i immediately suspected
asciilifeform: i can picture how it might, tho
asciilifeform: rain twisted 20 tonnes of steel roof so that i could see the underside ?
asciilifeform: there was 1 even right by the hotel, the very next door. roof fell off ( i wondered how, there were what, hurricanes ? strong enuff to rip off steel roof ? ) and squad of metallists worked on cutting it to pieces, and carting away, whole time i was there
asciilifeform: whaddayamean 'a building', i saw 100s
mircea_popescu: i dunno.
asciilifeform: ( what's the story of that thing, i did wonder, it was grandiose and entirely abandoned by all appearances )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: meanwhile i bought ssds.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-27 20:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've cut ffa into 30 pieces, each ~1 pg; -> bl0g article.
mod6: <+diana_coman> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743378 <- yay; I'll read! << ditto ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if useful pyrotechnics, i'd burn say voltaire.
mircea_popescu: i meant re the "don't inhale" part.
asciilifeform: as i understand it, whole idea of 'backed currency' is intrinsically chumpatronic.
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should put up a video lighting cigars with benjies or something.
diana_coman: yeah, I just can't see the "logic" in that "definition" but not really expecting it by now anyway; perhaps it's more of "but this is what we know and it's been around for x years therefore it is solid"
mircea_popescu: i'm all for it, too. let the pretend sovereigns pay for the cost of circulating monetary mass.
diana_coman: eh, it's postmodernism in the usual sense that "this word here doesn't mean what it means anymore but something else I decided"; aka "backed" now means as far as I heard "but everyday transactions happen still in fiat"
mircea_popescu: (but it's cracking ; for instance the supposedly captured fmi is putting out notions of how countries should probably monetize bitcoin rather than other countries currencies. so dixit lagarde. who, i suppose, has been raping hotel maids in new york according to the usg suto dept.)
mircea_popescu: in other fake news / mass media lulz, i read in today's la nacion that bitcoin went over 8k usd, and that various nobodies leeching the tax chest opine as to how "items not backed by anything are risky".
asciilifeform: i'd naively expect that adacore's item would be the satanic one, and gcc's fork -- the functional. but so far in no case was this the finding. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-27 20:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've cut ffa into 30 pieces, each ~1 pg; -> bl0g article.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743378 <- yay; I'll read! ☝︎
asciilifeform: yea, could ( tho i imagine a serious reader will need somewhat moar than 1hr to follow along )
mircea_popescu: do what i did when i leaked teh wikileaks, set it to publish one per hour or such
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've cut ffa into 30 pieces, each ~1 pg; -> bl0g article. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'I am utterly frustrated with the software I have to deal with. Windows is beyond comprehension! UNIX is no better. DOS is no better. There is no reason for an OS. It is a non-thing. Maybe it was needed at one time.' etc.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-19 22:55 punkman: "I actually have two implementations of example malicious signers:  One produces non-deterministic signatures and leaks a 256 bit private key, to the holder of a specific public key and no one else, in ~33 signatures with very high probability (failure rate of 1 in 1000 for 33 signatures, around 1 in a million for 34). The other produces a seemingly RFC 6979 like deterministic signatures and
asciilifeform: sadly for kjj, as i understand he is stuck with this key 4evah, unless he wants to buy a boeing for mpex...
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i kinda dun see the "sorry, avion ti gori" folk upholding any rulings.
kjj: I put in a request on the 25th. haven't seen anything on that address yet
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743279 <- I had this with cypriots too; bbbut no tv? not *even* where you sit with friends? what do you do?? well, we...talk, you know; to be fair I've put that on account of youth rather than more generic rot but maybe I was wrong ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose this is the proper definition of divinity.
mircea_popescu: "BUT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE!! I USED THE JUICE!!!"
asciilifeform: i suspect some mentally weak folx have problems with abstraction. i.e. ~his~ 'world will end' and thereby somehow 'world will end'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i heard it pluriously, much like the whole "if men just went out to rape and pillage there'd be ANARCHY!!!1"
asciilifeform: afaik just him, i know of no other source for the item
mircea_popescu: i thought youy'd like!
asciilifeform: ( and i gotta disagree re 'nothing fucking worked, subtly' -- things fucking didn'twork ~honestly~ and in plain daylight. it's today that they dysfunction subtly.)
asciilifeform: i suppose the only thing remaining after 1880s plugboard is the final rock bottom : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-25#643498 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can picture.