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mircea_popescu: i had this brejnev-khruschev thing in my head.

mircea_popescu: well yes. i took narrowly missing the 90s to mean he lived last days during khruschev's tenure

mircea_popescu: (i find it amusing how all the later day soviet saints have some shoe reference readily accessible to be retrieved by)

asciilifeform: 'I do believe it's better this way. She was bitterly sad every day of the last years' reminds asciilifeform of his (younger) grandfather, who narrowly missed the '90s

mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, i just managed to link TWO DOZEN trilema articles from this latest one. i think that takes the cake.

asciilifeform: nao re cavities, i do not specifically know the su air corps logic. possibly bad teeth in a boy were considered a mark of innate intractability to discipline; possibly some more basic, orcish 'choosing two potatoes, pick the symmetric and unblemished' formula.

asciilifeform: i.e. in end of grade school.

mircea_popescu: i dunno about cavities ; but training commander mp would sack pilots who fail to synchronize bowel movements to "half hour before flight duty" within the first month.

a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 18:28 asciilifeform: gymnasts may not be perfect example. when you have a role where the training per se is costly, you're stuck picking. e.g., pilots; i recently read a quite interesting autobio, 'Обречены на подвиг' ('condemned to heroism', roughly) by su flying d00d / instructor / colonel. described how children having any physical imperfection, even tooth cavity, were mercilessly rejected from flight academy even if they passed all of

asciilifeform: btw folx who enjoy the subj like, will also enjoy http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-08#1579985 ( i have nfi if translated into anything ) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i can see the point re "birds gone by". by the time your fighter jet comes with "and don't turn left lest its jew nose cuts off engine compressor" its like... WHO DID THIS IN RAILS!

mircea_popescu: even in the 90 ie 91, i don't expect a majority of nubile collegiate sluts perceived AS AN OBLIGATION the invitation to whore out for the airmen.

mircea_popescu: i expect.

mircea_popescu: i can understand why the people that invented swinging'd be a little bit cooler than the people that invented tech support.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-30#1744885 << hey mircea_popescu , didja know!, that the proof ain't proofyenuff, 'has he signed addresses that prove he is that wealthy? how do we know for a fact?', i had nfi ! ☝︎

asciilifeform: though 'I'm also active in the San Francisco Bay Area Less Wrong community'...

asciilifeform: lol did i just narrowly miss the next laddel ??

mquander: as you might surmise, i did not know that because until just now i didn't know about eulora, but i like MUDs and MMOs so i will be interested to look at it

mquander: ben_vulpes: i quit that job :)

mquander: mircea_popescu: i understand asymmetric encryption and RSA

mquander: i haven't used deedbot, so no, not yet, i will go do it once i clearly understand the mechanism

mquander: oh hi. i don't know much about this channel/project/republic, i joined because it got a shoutout in my RSS (http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1762) so i came to see what's up

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have no deeper understanding than european alimentary tradition. fruit alcohol only item fit for human consumption.

asciilifeform: i wasn't aware that the matter was ever settled .

asciilifeform: i find it interesting that 'cause of hangover' is still in dispute

mircea_popescu: very simple rule is, drink straight alcohol (i do mean, pharmaceutically pure, 99.999%) to get an idea how your drunkedness goes.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-30 03:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744530 << note that the alcohol discussion is re taste. they all get you drunk. (arguably not the same drunk, i guess, but anyway)

asciilifeform: that's the other side of the medal aha. i was speaking of what this move pays for -- the added biomass.

asciilifeform: so far the only item i was able to crib was the gpg formatter.

asciilifeform: at some point i'ma plunder mpwp for useful patches again ( i lost steam when discovered that the spam filtrator cannot be made to work on my hoster )

asciilifeform: incidentally none of the 4 versions of winblowz i have at the ready, produce 'windows quotes'...

asciilifeform: possibly i even spammed it in meself many years ago. ( for some reason was not yet kicked from pediwikia then; naggum after all was not mircea_popescu... )

a111: Logged on 2017-11-30 15:26 asciilifeform: every so often somebody linkes from hn, reddit, etc ( and here i was thinking 'aaah, finally permabanned' ! )

asciilifeform: hence why i use the cheaper ones at home. but on other hand in orbit...

mircea_popescu: i didn't look that deeply into it.

mircea_popescu: this isn't true, incidentally, i bought sixty a few weeks ago.

mircea_popescu: i dun recall the soviets ever managing such a crisp icon of "the meeting with the politruk".

mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the "weaved" sf : kinda the whole point of "3d printing", as i saw it at the time. useless wankery but who's gonna make the weaved nuclear reactor.

mircea_popescu: i expect the large sats to be actually weaved, but the materials aren't there yet (and no word on weaved nuclear reactor yet, either)

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depends where. i don't see china clearly enough to say. maybe they got turkeyws.

asciilifeform: the ease of monkeying with radio nav, is why east and west empires both sank $maxint into terrain-trackers in '80s ( what, if anything, this came to, i have nfi )

mircea_popescu: as i said, much louder sats.

mircea_popescu: as i say, much heavier gear.

mircea_popescu: i recall.

asciilifeform: satellite nav systems work by 'which sats do i see, and what order are the relative signal strengths'. neither is authenticable .

mircea_popescu: of course, i'm unconvinced. include counter for instance.

asciilifeform: 'secret/noforn course' << last i heard , every recruit into u.s. army gets auto-seekret. and that orc mercenaries were not inducted into 'socom' to begin with.

asciilifeform: reminds of : ''I was such a pure and terrifying Aryan that they even put me in a special detachment. Its mission was to find out how the Jews always knew what the S.S. was going to do next There was a leak somewhere, and we were out to stop it' He looked bitter and affronted, remembering it, even though he had been that leak. 'Was the detachment successful in its mission?' I said. 'I'm happy to say,' said Arpad, 'that fourteen S.S. m ☟︎

asciilifeform: every so often somebody linkes from hn, reddit, etc ( and here i was thinking 'aaah, finally permabanned' ! ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is the ~only type of comment i historically get. it's a snoar.

lobbes: I'm pleased to at least report my archive-to-zip engine is functional. I have zipped some 1300 links so far leading back to Nov 8. All routing through archive.is without exception

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744530 << note that the alcohol discussion is re taste. they all get you drunk. (arguably not the same drunk, i guess, but anyway) ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744518 << moar like a knight, i guess. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: works, so to speak, like a rocket tied to a formula 1 car. those items need more thrust like i need more nose ; they need more adherence is what they need, and rocket dun help that.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 21:11 gabriel_laddel: n idea, or some form of sensory input bodily electrical resonance. MP's 'women are only useful as slaves' comes to mind. Are men only useful when tweaking? 'Bennies' were readily available at Los Alamos during MP. Did no-sleep-drive-and-read-johnny use? I can't find primary sources and am also digressing... Tweaking. Something WILL grab your intere

mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean glucose ffs. approachable with "my first spectrometry kit" even

mircea_popescu: generally substance abuse in post soviet world would curl the contemporaneous mind. cluj tribunal, three levesl, maybe say 50k sq foot of floor space, a thousand or two (mostly women) working there had A TRUCK. i don't mean a van. i mean a semi.

mircea_popescu: i think codeine was at the time available by the kg

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also, i think i mentioned this, but in any case : 4yo me was prescribed codeine as phosphoric salt for kiddy cough. double dose what chet got for back pain.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform’s mother worked in one. so i saw.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 19:15 asciilifeform: dun i gotta take to drink 1st, and then quit..?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744393 << i think i knew hundreds. widely abused in post-soviet medical system, for instance ; at some point a whole surgical section was losing it at the same time, one step away from ending up discussed in the national security council. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 18:57 BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> but beyond that, I was applying to accelerators with this company because I don't want a real job << Sometime at a "real job" would be good for you. Work at BingoBoingo store, call it "field research" if that makes Brian in the head feel better. Show up, bust your ass, eat shit, THEN ask yourself "Why wasn't I working this hard for myself before?"

TomServo: Most of my sync was from deedbot, but I would frequently get blackholed? No blocks for hours, wouldn never resume on it's own, had to restart.

TomServo: I was under the impression that using -connect $tsmr.node.ip -nolisten would be a faster sync, but seems a bit faster without.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 18:08 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this is a ssd box, on very reasonable fiber, no less. << I am very glad/sad that asciilifeform's sync from wild experiments are concordant with my own

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i recommend to take a break and come back when you have theorem, or at least something new. and use some of your artificial stamina to make a blog, and write.

gabriel_laddel: Uncle Al: ~"I had IV drip of morphine for 3 months. opiates are boring pharma"

asciilifeform: trinque: i'll admit that i dun really buy the 'pushing' angle. if anything it's the mcdonaldizers and walmartizers, star topology creators, who create the demand for opiums

gabriel_laddel: trinque: dude whatever I heard drugs existed and sought them out by iterating through every human I could find.

asciilifeform: i thought jail was required 'university' for dope people, like actual university used to be for maths

asciilifeform: i.e. is it possible that gabriel_laddel wanted a dope for theorems, but what there is on the market is there so that derps can http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744462 etc ☝︎

trinque: I would like to know which masters used these and succeeded?

asciilifeform: for some reason i thought laevo-isomer has 0 effect on nervous system -- e.g. laevo-meth is sold in every pharmacy in usa, as a nasal decongestant

gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform do you have a book recommendation for use of amphetamines in ww2? I looked a few times and nothing caught my interest

a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 15:07 mircea_popescu: also managed to misplace a 2ct diamond i used to wear in mah lapel... utter puyi operation i'm running over here.

gabriel_laddel: Nothing in particular that I can say "aha! crazy!" as the whole story is totally alien

gabriel_laddel: Well for one, awfully interesting comparison - to a chinaman!? Completely out of the blue (yellow?). That his eunuchs did anything at all continues to be surprising to me, thought I guess floggings are useful motivation when you've no sexual drive?

asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for gabriel_laddel's theorem tho

gabriel_laddel: Anyways there are no imaginative+curious people in SF, but the guy offering his sister had the right idea. Hm. Actually there was one now that I think about it. Two if you count the negro "man, I need some of what you've got". Fuck yeah Black America. Better showing than whitey.

gabriel_laddel: he city, because I didn't see a soul four hours (maybe two, idk). Found a doorbell with arab lettering and rang it furiously. I hope it disturbed them something awful anddsfsdfsdfewdshdslkhfdslhlkjfdshdskjfhds AHEM. Wasn't thinking that at the time, but a terrorist attack & subsequent rebuild seems more likely than any other route to improved publi

gabriel_laddel: ome and a weekend nights end at like 11pm because my generation deserves holocaust). This involved dancing around all over the place, even going so far as to pull out my computer & code onehanded, balancing on one foot, bobbing like a maniac, with lightbulb affixed. Honest to god, I can't tell you if ANYONE even lives in the whole western half of t

gabriel_laddel: Example: had the thought -- ~ _someone, somewhere_ in this godforsakken sodom must have an imagination, and a curiosity to match it! So I took a light bulb, placed it above my head like a cartoon 'idea emoji' and walked all of SF many times over trying to elicit some sort of novel reaction from the fri night 'partygoers' (ED NOTE: sf is a nursing h

gabriel_laddel: n idea, or some form of sensory input bodily electrical resonance. MP's 'women are only useful as slaves' comes to mind. Are men only useful when tweaking? 'Bennies' were readily available at Los Alamos during MP. Did no-sleep-drive-and-read-johnny use? I can't find primary sources and am also digressing... Tweaking. Something WILL grab your intere ☟︎☟︎

trinque: asciilifeform: one of whom I'm thinking sat peacefully as he burned

asciilifeform: as i understand.

asciilifeform: trinque: i suppose you dun think those priests who set themselves on fire , were interesting either

trinque: I fail to see the fascination here

asciilifeform: i very rarely read pm. post in-chan.

gabriel_laddel: I have to move because people are coming into the room, but will drop an actual story with details here in a sec, or at least PM to you ascii

gabriel_laddel: lolno. But when you "tweak" the ideas in your head start to drive rather than sane human things like "I shouldn't be fooling around with these love-glasses and the way they make the girls look in broad daylight" go out the window.

asciilifeform: dun i gotta take to drink 1st, and then quit..? ☟︎

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> do i need to do some time in a dope den , to learn this ? << I have been suggested you visit an AA/NA meeting for some time to meet people

gabriel_laddel: Nono, just different. Fuck can't find the link -- but anyways, I had the idea that it'd be easier to hold a lightbulb over my head and head out on a Sat. night in sf than to network with people one by one

asciilifeform: i;ma guess it's an unwanted effect ?

asciilifeform: do i need to do some time in a dope den , to learn this ?

asciilifeform: hm looks like i am unequipped to process gabriel_laddel's summary

asciilifeform: ( i.e. milligrams )

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i did not know that the networks cross-pollinated but it makes a great deal of sense