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mircea_popescu: as it is, next in the queue is plaintive missive from mohammed bin salman about how "he was tricked" and "teh deliveries didn;t live up to promises" in a few months/years/whatever.

mircea_popescu: nah, moar like failure of orange revolution ("teh people matter, and here's a buncha dorky chicks fresh from usg "criminology" studies going topless hurr durr) had dept of blue usg move to white revolution ("teh people dun matter, here's kings-youngest-son being totally the true lost tsarevich!!!"). in this case the local pretext for legitimacy is that 32yo princelet.

BingoBoingo: Yeah, turns out source Homo Reddictius was citing consisted of a likely disinfo piece by Cloudflare

mircea_popescu: there's conservation rules afoot in teh universe, and the web isn't going to produce an increase of information ; it provides a fraction of what you put in back and no more.

mircea_popescu: ie there WAS a hdd price issue after asian floods, but if you searched... much like http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-06#1733268 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo cheap transportation makes french "terroir" (as distinct from arab terreur) a meaningless concept.

asciilifeform: they built a sort of xray crystallography rig, for ~intact~ ic.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform, It's a concert. Just enjoy the music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmd-ClpJxA

asciilifeform: and i'll disagree that a q re how specifically one might go about taking back telecom sovereignty from the fiatists, is necessarily a wank.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 19:17 mircea_popescu: also support is not sought, i don't think, if by support you mean manpower as opposed to you know, cooling. (if the latter, there's really 0 interest in a "best effort dc / someone's house".)

asciilifeform: it remains imho a puzzle, how anyone would bootstrap such a thing ( nobody would pay for 'best effort' crapola, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735455 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( i suppose one approach to (1) is 'buyer must be in the l1 of a repeater operator'. and possibly it is the only possible approach. but it does turn the thing from 'build it and they will come' into something like 'must push the dope' , and prolly makes whole thing unviable )

asciilifeform: now, a twist : you don't necessarily need a pyongyang. can instead use network of decisive men with smaller repeaters...

asciilifeform: e.g. 'send coin to addr A, then wotpaste payload signed with originator addr, and yer 64kB chunk is on the air within 24hrs or we send coin back. signed, yours, kim chen ir'

asciilifeform: 'The signal has a very subtle sound and, if not for the 3-click/delay format, would be indistinguishable from nature's own spark transmitter, distant lighting.'

asciilifeform: '...storage capacitor holds 0.2 watt-seconds of energy... about 90%, 720,000 peak watts, delivered to the antenna... might be heard world-wide, but I don't know that for a fact... while total power in the pulses might be impressive, it's an extremely wideband signal - much less power is present on any particular, say 5 kHz, channel. In other words, the sparker is sending a very crude form of spread spectrum'

mircea_popescu: a a

asciilifeform: on the shitcoin markets, a 'fork token' or what was it, denominated in heathenbux, fell from 1000s to 100, but then repumped

asciilifeform: 'We just forked the website ! We didn't mean to fork Bitcoin, thats a lot of work ;)'

mircea_popescu: in teh middle of a volcano, ruining everyone's shit an' having tea.

asciilifeform: it would even make sense if order was 'make'em all install this here new winblowz turd'. but iirc 2303x did not even ~offer~ a winturd.

asciilifeform: ( and i must sadly note, they will ~continue~ to ship with FG units, unless someone wants to suggest a different chip )

asciilifeform: well to be fair pl2303x is prolly a work of d00dz in 20s

a111: Logged on 2014-02-17 19:21 asciilifeform: russian blogger, circa '04: 'have you ever beaten a man? had you done so, you would know that it is hard work. no less arduous than turning a meat-grinder. how often do you wake up to the urge to crank a meat-grinder? every day?'

asciilifeform: but it isn't a wholly martian thing, where 'why would anyone' question arises

asciilifeform: sure, but at least it is clear how beating folx on the street with a club and taking their wallets might be enjoyable

mircea_popescu: understand something : the petty criminal holding you up didn't "find it necessary". petty crime comes with built-in, very lowly set high-pass filter. you have to be THIS fucking dumb to think petty crime is a productive use of your time, and consequently the bar for "necessity" isn't anywhere close to mathematical rigour.

asciilifeform: 'The PL-2303X has the same vendor ID and product ID as the older PL-2303, which means that it will be incorrectly detected as a PL-2303 by the driver currently in the Linux kernel. Attempting to use a PL-2303X as a PL-2303 simply results in an inability to transfer data through the serial port. In other words, nothing happens.'

asciilifeform: tangentially, asciilifeform has this strong recollection of reading a version where xerx whipped the sea ~as a psyop~, and meanwhile had men crossing elsewhere. but i can't seem to find this in herodotus. so where was it ?

mircea_popescu: ("washing off" here has a very strict art meaning -- "i'm the object, not the subject" is the strongest psychological defense yet devised by the human brain.)

asciilifeform: i suppose being condemned to wish forever it were 2010, is nearly as good a hell as to be stuck in actual 2010

asciilifeform: * forgot to return a tool

asciilifeform: reminds me, asciilifeform dreamed at night that he had a time travel widget, but used it strictly to go back in time to now-defunct labs he worked in, to borrow tools. but one time forgot to return ! and was trapped, forever, in a loop, consisting of lunch break among technodetritus.

mircea_popescu: the low level problem of just how idiotically superficial her arguments were paling in comparison to the incomprehensible levels of confusion involved in "i'll fix amphora, problem with it is that it has a hole" and other fundamental miscomprehensions of function.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that mysticalname whatsherface chick from tor that trinque has a hard-on on at some point wrote a "scholarly" (in the wikitardia sense of the term) article about how girl armor displayed in mmorpgs and bad hbo franchises "wouldn't work".

mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, engaging in a "fixing" of the nature of "cut branch underfoot" is a very strong signal of idiocy.

mircea_popescu: (play is VERY different from content consumption, the latter is a bovine activity well suited to philosophers and girls of room temp iq while the former is the principal activity of the kitten.)

asciilifeform: ( fwiw asciilifeform never played 'normal' mmporgs , but has a vague notion that even there, people eventually made bots )

mircea_popescu: there's a lot to be yet said on the mystical value of rsa. take a "prime" - purely mystical concept, it literally means "was not seen before, virginal." "repetitions can not FOR THAT REASON ever be prime" and so on.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735853 << eulora is a very different kind of game ; not wow at all. it's not cocaine for the clickchicken, keep it glued to the screen clucking away ; it's amphetamine for the thinker, "shit how to make a bot that properly does this".

asciilifeform: anyway i agree with mircea_popescu , there is no reason to have any of this in the moving gears. who wants a 'text commented e', can take his text, find nextprime(text) himself in such a way that it still human-reads, and use that.

mircea_popescu: not really becauyse a) user doesn't care and b) user with e can't get message back anyway

asciilifeform: ( if your e is already prime, nothing interesting happens. but if someone insists of making a text 'part of the key', he can stuff it into the e )

asciilifeform: actually , the way i'd implement the thing , is to not change the format in any way, other than a condition that 1) e can be any 4096b string 2) but if it fails m-r, nextprime(e) is used as e

asciilifeform: it's a public exponent. but it does break my http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733387 . ☝︎

mircea_popescu: it is part of the moving parts, "there is a hole here". what one fills it with is his problem, but the hole is.

asciilifeform: 'infinite' sizes are a lol

asciilifeform: but this is imho muchly a matter of taste.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735920 << may or may not want to bother, but it does give a method of protocolically tying the comment (postage whatever) string to the pubkey , without pretense of 'self-signatures' or anything of the kind ☝︎

mircea_popescu: just when i was starting to think, you know, i have a serious sex-race issue "white or mulatto but nothing else" it turns out that there exists palatable nonwhiteness.

mircea_popescu: i had thought it's a movie prop, but apparently no, can has irl.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 15:09 mircea_popescu: (yes, "a plea bargain" has nothing to do with justice or anything else. it is simply a contract with a theatrical company, you agree to play a role on the lowest rung. it's exactly like 1950s hollywood system signing up to be an extra. you will be... an extra... in someone else's movie... about shit that interests them.)

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735855 << yes, buit this is the core of the misunderstanding. "i can't even masturbate anymore, much less have a relationship". relationships aren't a sort of masturbation and eulora isn't a sort of tetris. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 14:12 asciilifeform: when i sit to play a game, it feels like dereliction of duty, with, e.g., ffa yet undone, dulap not yet replaces, scintollator rng not complete, 9000 other processes

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735853 << eulora is a very different kind of game ; not wow at all. it's not cocaine for the clickchicken, keep it glued to the screen clucking away ; it's amphetamine for the thinker, "shit how to make a bot that properly does this". ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735846 << as a forinstance : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-08-07.log.html#t03:03:56 iirc he evaluated it at 5 to 10 btc due to market values of items, is a post somewhere on his blog ; historically the largest pop was something like 180mn ecu, ie 1.8 btc and it didn't take 1/10 that. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735842 << substantially different. you could have also won. they -- CAN NOT. it's not "oh, i have a choice between republic and mundane life". there is no possible result from mundane life. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: (yes, "a plea bargain" has nothing to do with justice or anything else. it is simply a contract with a theatrical company, you agree to play a role on the lowest rung. it's exactly like 1950s hollywood system signing up to be an extra. you will be... an extra... in someone else's movie... about shit that interests them.) ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 13:44 asciilifeform: pc is epic piece of shit, with modern vlsi it could have 50 working uarts for a few cents. instead ships with 0

a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 10:14 diana_coman: for the curious there are in fact 2 prolific-stamped documents describing pl2303 and pl2303x; pl2303x seems to be a sort of upgrade to 64bits but why couldn't it be properly identified as distinct I don't know

asciilifeform: btw i had a lulzy idea re public exponents

asciilifeform: when i sit to play a game, it feels like dereliction of duty, with, e.g., ffa yet undone, dulap not yet replaces, scintollator rng not complete, 9000 other processes ☟︎

diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc several people exchanged their ecu for btc and cashed out though no idea how much it was exactly (they usually come in with "will make whole coin!!!111 won't quit!!!" and then crash out of it a few days later)

asciilifeform: anybody made a whole coin yet ?

diana_coman: asciilifeform, eulora is a way to get btc; no tits required either

a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 08:38 mircea_popescu: whole generation of stupid cunts will have to explain to their granddaughters, "and then in 2017 i was a cretin and missed on the opportunity to make 2 bitcents writing on my ugly ass tits nobody cares about, and that's why you can't have your private island. o look, barrista break's over, back to work"\

asciilifeform: gotta find a copy somehow ( asciilifeform doesnt appear to have )

asciilifeform: pc is epic piece of shit, with modern vlsi it could have 50 working uarts for a few cents. instead ships with 0 ☟︎

diana_coman: for the curious there are in fact 2 prolific-stamped documents describing pl2303 and pl2303x; pl2303x seems to be a sort of upgrade to 64bits but why couldn't it be properly identified as distinct I don't know ☟︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-10 00:58 asciilifeform: it's a pl2303 , ought to work ( though see diana_coman 's recent thread , on certain egregiously braindamaged linuxen there is a bug )

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735788 <- I don't really see how it is linux' fault here; so prolific used to make the pl2303 and old linux worked fine with it and still does; THEN they (or chinese cheap copies dunno) made a DIFFERENT thing pl2303x that has however the same serial id and everything so you can't distinguish between them before plugging them in pretty much; and so yes, old linux won't work because it sees it as pl2303 whe ☝︎

mircea_popescu: whole generation of stupid cunts will have to explain to their granddaughters, "and then in 2017 i was a cretin and missed on the opportunity to make 2 bitcents writing on my ugly ass tits nobody cares about, and that's why you can't have your private island. o look, barrista break's over, back to work"\ ☟︎

BingoBoingo: And we have a quote, extracting info from PDF

mod6: !~later tell cruciform <+cruciform> asciilifeform: something like "sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove gcc-5" ? << This ~ought~ to work. However, it's been a while since I had to do all of these gyrations myself. Please let me know if you need help on this, I'll do what I can. Salud.

asciilifeform: it's a pl2303 , ought to work ( though see diana_coman 's recent thread , on certain egregiously braindamaged linuxen there is a bug ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: cruciform: pretty sure i shipped a number of units with that exact cable

cruciform: asciilifeform: thanks! will do. In other matters, is this the correct kinda cable for a FG? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raspberry-Programming-Serial-Windows-Supported/dp/B01N4X3BJB/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1510275254&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=ttl+cable&psc=1

asciilifeform: ( which may be a trivial fix or an hour-long headache depending on what's on yer box )

asciilifeform: if you make the cuts in the wrong order, could easily end up without a compiler.

asciilifeform: ( unless yer a gentoo virtuoso and can have 9000 compilers safely co-exist. otherwise, kill. it. with. fire. )

cruciform: got a FG to audit after

a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 23:08 ben_vulpes: quite definitely is about accusations, all one needs is a 'cleaning lady'.

ben_vulpes: allll you gotta do is find a further out-there minority or 'oppressed person', and everyone will race to validate their lived experience. trend has been towards this for years, don't know how you don't see it.

asciilifeform: 'Verification was meant to authenticate identity & voice but it is interpreted as an endorsement or an indicator of importance," Twitter said in a tweet announcing its decision to pause the verification program. "We recognize that we have created this confusion and need to resolve it. We have paused all general verifications while we work and will report back soon.'

ben_vulpes: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2017/11/09/twitter-halts-verification-over-checkmark-charlottesville-rally-organizer/848314001/ as a random sample

asciilifeform: did i sleep through a tragic fire where twatter et al mysteriously burned down ?

asciilifeform: and a newyorktimes.

ben_vulpes: quite definitely is about accusations, all one needs is a 'cleaning lady'. ☟︎

ben_vulpes: not even a matter of publishing dirt, wapo has decreed that actual dirt is immaterial, accusations are all that matter.

ben_vulpes: who would ever pay a dollar in ddos to cost someone ten, while on the topic

ben_vulpes: nah asciilifeform moar like "step forward with allegations against $senator, get btc if they withdraw. first 5 to <strike>draw on their tits</strike> get documented media exposure get a bitcent

mircea_popescu: in other news, i just had a conversation with a bird.

mircea_popescu: or cubical drones with a vp prospect.

mircea_popescu: "who the fuck would rub penis scent on himself ?" "a woman" "and who else ?"

asciilifeform: ( i suspect a europistani root there, but nfi from whom specifically it came )

mircea_popescu: "she's no longer hot! why does she have an abdominal fold ??" "cuz she's a woman" "that's not what i saw on bangbros" "yes, well, they only film some angles"

mircea_popescu: what the beta boi wants from the inadvertent oracle is ... a score.

mircea_popescu: nope, not at all. more like "what bands do you like", in the transparently/invisible hopes that if got right, who knows, maybe has a chance IN A DISTANT AND ABSENT FUTURE

asciilifeform: from same rag, 'The man accused of tackling Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and breaking his ribs as he was mowing his lawn pleaded not guilty on Thursday to a misdemeanor assault charge, a court official said.'