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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not beyuond the realm of the plausible that i fuck some chick and she delivers 3kgs of solid gold 9 months later, by the same measure of realms.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think orlol's argument casts us as the zulu, and usg as the d00dz with the maxim
asciilifeform: i'll be the first to admit that i haven't the faintest idea.
mircea_popescu: actually... i don't think. i... know! http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#comment-122811
asciilifeform: but in this case i meant , in reality.
mircea_popescu: i think ~every businessman in luxor center for businessmen made moar than all my creations summed together also.
asciilifeform: to be fair i did not order lolcat. perhaps -- not on time, not to spec, not satisfied users.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 18:54 asciilifeform: this, i suppose, is the 'industry' in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746553
asciilifeform: i.e. gated-incrementor
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not really sure. iirc i only had it in 1 place, (not yet introduced in tutorial) , where the 'add' has an incarnation that accepts a single WBool to add instead of a whole fz
asciilifeform: i picked the variant where there are 3 variants of each shifter ( not counting the secret-shift , made per apeloyee's method )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, i had no idea what the argument PRO overloading was.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 18:08 asciilifeform: diana_coman: you do have a point , though, an ffa that is an ideal mathematical description of every relevant bound, would look slightly different from the ffa i actually have, that has to actually run on idjit cmachine iron in something like real time.
asciilifeform: this is sadly an instance of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745589 , apeloyee : if i can't compactly mark the carry-in and/or carry-out as unreferenced , the compiler shits forth unusably slow bin. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'O' stood for 'outputoverflow'. which in turn was exactly same as FZ_Shift_Left_I , which permitted only ~input~ of overflow; which in turn was otherwise identical to FZ_ShiftLeft, which permitted neither.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746785 << i don't get what the fuck ELSE did they imagine it's for ? normal people taking tramps in for a fuck&suck say so. that they don't say so just means they're WEIRD, it doesn't mean "it ain't gonna occur". a tramp's a tramp, a thing, like a hammer, with a proper usage implicit. aaanyway. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i've begun to suspect that overloadism is unhealthy, fundamentally.
asciilifeform: i've been thinking about abolishing function overloading in ffa. ( there is apparently even a pragma for cementing it )
asciilifeform: i'll expand if ben_vulpes says he wants expansion.
apeloyee: asciilifeform: *I* understand.
apeloyee: i also need to understand/fit in head/convince myself of the line re "extends to any N bit register". << schoolbook addition method shows that the MSB and carry-out depend only on MSB of operands and the carry-in to the most significant place; the carry-in can be derived from result's MSB and the summand's (as their sum modulo 2, aka xor), thus the register width doesn't matter
asciilifeform: from this point on i'ma not spoil it.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 21:32 apeloyee: I'm still curious what gcd there will be. I admit defeat regarding the binary GCD I posted earlier - after trying to make an extended GCD out of it, it ballooned to 100+ LOC, and it doesn't work. Meaning it doesn't fit in head... (BTW the orginal code snipped I posted has a mux which always picks wrong input)
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 21:18 apeloyee: I'd like to ask asciilifeform to document the parameter ordering convention in ffa. chapter 1 is straightforward, but the various shifts posted earlier seemed to have their parameters in order which I don't understand.
apeloyee: I'm still curious what gcd there will be. I admit defeat regarding the binary GCD I posted earlier - after trying to make an extended GCD out of it, it ballooned to 100+ LOC, and it doesn't work. Meaning it doesn't fit in head... (BTW the orginal code snipped I posted has a mux which always picks wrong input) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i also need to understand/fit in head/convince myself of the line re "extends to any N bit register".
ben_vulpes: working out the full adder; i did verify a bunch of the proof table, and then figured that since i have such a tenuous grasp on the subject matter i should do everything asciilifeform recommended.
ben_vulpes: i will admit to still attempting to fit in head the deduction of carry and borrow algo
apeloyee: but ffa itself, from what I've seen, does not do that.
ben_vulpes: apeloyee: can also reference them by name in ada; i personally hate positional args
apeloyee: I'd like to ask asciilifeform to document the parameter ordering convention in ffa. chapter 1 is straightforward, but the various shifts posted earlier seemed to have their parameters in order which I don't understand. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:17 mircea_popescu: "oh but mp... really... i can't do anything, not usefully, not well, not within pre-glacial timeframes, not... not..."
asciilifeform: 'TheTeddyboy46 said... Virtual Kittens? Now I know Cryptocurrencies are a Scam.' << didjaknow.
asciilifeform: 'if some government decides that Bitcoin is not its friend, it can simply ask you, nicely at first, to relinquish your cyberwallet to it. I doubt that too many of the Saudi princes that were recently disencumbered of much of their net worth while being tortured by Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the Ritz-Carlton in Riyadh ended up playing coy ' ☟︎
asciilifeform: or perhaps moar fairly, rip of http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2011/04/on-monetary-restandardization.html , http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-bitcoin-dies.html , and one other yarvin that i've misplaced
asciilifeform: this, i suppose, is the 'industry' in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746553 ☝︎☟︎
trinque: if the tree were present it wouldn't be written in a line ltr, not that I argue against the usefulness of being able to synthesize new words.
ben_vulpes: years though it has been since i spent any significant time speaking/reading delang i still do not laugh
ben_vulpes: ah haha nono, i'd have strung together a LeverforholdingElevatorTrimAdjustmentMechanisminplacifier together in that case
asciilifeform: i assumed was simply standard 'teutonic' capitalization, lol
ben_vulpes: i don't capitalize casually, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: incidentally i cannot resist to ask ben_vulpes , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746707 , what is so 'real' about walmartistan ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( lessee if i properly ate & shat, 'i do not consider myself a programmer, for i have another craft. let's say i am an amateur programmer. and yet though i am an amateur, i find myself having written tens of thou. of loc in this-here life. and at least a min of 10k loc for web. but wanna hear sumthing ? never have i created a security hole in any. never. do you suppose i simply had good luck ? possibly luck. or possibly i wrote the c ☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e. 'how about fitsinhead'
shinohai: lol riseup i thought that hippy shit was ded
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 13:51 asciilifeform: https://pad.riseup.net/p/87Mazw3Jsdfe_pm/timeslider#11 << multistory lul tower. for instance, i had no idea what is 'riseup' until its pgp keys began to pop.
asciilifeform: this is prolly more than enuff material for the nurembers, i'ma stop here.
asciilifeform: i had nfi there had been such a box.
asciilifeform: i'd naively imagine theyd've retired and 'unhappened' the name 'riseup' after where it appears in thel0gz.
mircea_popescu: truth CON. see what i did there ? :D
mircea_popescu: i hope it's in the shape of a T overimposed over a W. because obviously.
shinohai: I'm so saphe now.
ben_vulpes: true also in communistan, visceral fear of large things in rearview apparently universal. i grew up driving a "suburban", aka "urban assault vehicle"; know full well joys of operating twuk
ben_vulpes: that said Real America entails far more time with ass in car than i have patience for.
asciilifeform: i dun see any confusion tho. in fact is why asciilifeform took exception : he is not the least insensitive to pain, but chained to this-here mountain side, and not in a position to avoid the eagle.
mircea_popescu: (english word, i mean)
asciilifeform: trinque: you would barf an entire barrel if you saw what i eat from.
asciilifeform: evidently trinque is considerably better at what he does, than i am, this is not really disputable
mircea_popescu: amusingly, i also went broke numerous times, but with me it was just money.
trinque: was saying I was willing to starve, then eat beans, then
trinque: nah, I started up a thing, feeds me to this day
mircea_popescu: outside of you two (admitting this is what trinque meant) i know of no people who went into consulting and lost money.
mircea_popescu: i recall something with robotic microscopy
asciilifeform: ( again i have nfi whether because-idiot, or because-socialisms, or some combo of both. )
trinque: sure, I went broke like five times in last decade
asciilifeform: trinque: i tried this, and nearly went broke.
asciilifeform: but i'm not mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: now that i think about it, if i were mircea_popescu , ffa would have gone more than simply twice as fast, it takes considerable time to reload the problem into head , after a long dive into the saecular sewers
mircea_popescu: well, the eulora cripto lib died when i said, iirc last month board meeting\
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu says this -- i'll believe.
mircea_popescu: i doubt it'd have changed at any point prior to this month, really.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:42 mircea_popescu: or i guess is it the idea that "even had i worked full time, it'd still not have been quite enough" ?
mircea_popescu: if you say i readily believe.
asciilifeform: ftr i spent more time, hour for hour, on ffa in past yr than among the heathens.
mircea_popescu: it only becomes a problem when the argument presented is "i didn't have the time to do x"
asciilifeform: i ~would~ starve under bridge if didn't work in the saeculum
asciilifeform: that's what i meant by poor
a111: Logged on 2017-11-11 16:40 asciilifeform: relatedly, chinese quote 0.88 cents per 1500x sem photo; for 1x1cm die (which is estimate, i dun have an xray machine here) that works out to 1-2k usd for whole thing, depending on how many layers turn up
asciilifeform: consider, if i'd have quit day job and counted on mircea_popescu's contest prize to live on, would have starved.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so for my own curiosity : considering the choice to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655064 (i recall a more recent mention but search isn't yielding) has cost you over the past YEAR the equivalent of what appears like 118`337 here + whatever the non-delivery of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591437 would have amounted to (iirc no amt was ever set down ?), are you putting this down to a case of bad managem
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not very clear to me how your x=y things work, BUT, if you had told me in 2016 that you intend to delay c-s ada impl by 1-2-n years to wait for ffa i'd have told you symmetric cipher really dun need ffa for any reason and eulora won't wait into 2018 for it etc.
asciilifeform: and in general i dun expect any of it to be paid for, there is no tradition of any such thing. but i do have the possibly naive expectation of the work not to be shat on. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i dun have any notion that ' mircea_popescu oughta pay for the mpi ' , it was made without any such agreement. ditto the serpent archaeology etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 15:04 mircea_popescu: anyway, re the "and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway" portion of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746522 : that discussion was mid and then late 2016 ; on dec 2017 i had to direct s.mg tech to CREATE rather than simply use a cripto lib. for this reason i don't wish to pay nsa anything -- it didn't do the work i wanted it to do. it's true that it released a "intangibles and goodwill" sort of
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:17 asciilifeform: as for asciilifeform , he would actually prefer if mircea_popescu shot straight and said 'hell no i won't pay for no stinkin' software', rather than the peculiar ritual of having a contest, then to proclaim the submitters as a whole 'self-indulgent indolent' and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the "and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway" portion of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746522 : that discussion was mid and then late 2016 ; on dec 2017 i had to direct s.mg tech to CREATE rather than simply use a cripto lib. for this reason i don't wish to pay nsa anything -- it didn't do the work i wanted it to do. it's true that it released a "intangibles and goodwill" sort of ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: on which basis i predict there shall be moar облом in the future.
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing the question's not yet ripe for addressing.
asciilifeform: i could attempt to answer what i ~think~ is the question
mircea_popescu: well what can i say.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun get it
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing six digits is a large enough chunk of change it'd warrant some quite serious examination in any case.
mircea_popescu: or i guess is it the idea that "even had i worked full time, it'd still not have been quite enough" ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 03:06 asciilifeform: this type of thing is called 'day job', and it so happens that i already have one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so for my own curiosity : considering the choice to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655064 (i recall a more recent mention but search isn't yielding) has cost you over the past YEAR the equivalent of what appears like 118`337 here + whatever the non-delivery of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591437 would have amounted to (iirc no amt was ever set down ?), are you putting this down to a case of bad managem ☝︎☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i prefer living friends, to dead. ergo no ersatz cryptos.
mircea_popescu: well no, you could've alternatively delivered eulora-crypto, btmsr cipher, etcetera. evidently hindsight is more informative than foresight, and i'm not even saying you should have or anything.
mircea_popescu: not that i'm particularly concerned, myself. i'm rich enough to not specifically care to monetize work ; trilema can be free for all i care, and i'm more than happy to minor partner with a view to a very long term.
mircea_popescu: i was discussing nsa, as such.
mircea_popescu: well i mean... there's an over-time tendency for btc bounties nominal value to decrease and for their fiat value to increase. this is normal, as the item grows.