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mircea_popescu: the notion
that
their "latest" is used or relevant is
teh lulz.
mircea_popescu: see,
the exact
thing happening in bitcoin, where
the power rangers fell off
the curve, happened long ago
to wordpress.
mircea_popescu: "Moreover, Pynnonen reported
the vulnerability
to
the WordPress
team but
they “refused all communication attempts” he made since November 2014." heh
mircea_popescu: "The vulnerability affects
the WordPress versions 3.9.3, 4.1.1, 4.1.2, and
the latest WordPress version 4.2."
jurov: williamdunne: but in cases where
ther is data, it works
williamdunne: Basically some way
to get json on
the
trust between
two people
jurov: williamdunne: you mean w.b-a.link/trust/some/else/json? yes
that could return {} instead of "no data"
ascii_field: motherfucking rc.local doesn't run on boot in
this ver of rathead
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 10:25:18; punkman: also, cab driver: "check out
the hottie over
there" *honks* "oh shit
that was my cousin. damn she lost a lot of weight"
williamdunne: ;;later
tell kakobrekla would it be possible for w.b-a.link/some/parameters
to return valid JSON?
mircea_popescu: " When
the "people" of earth finally get
the message
that brainpower is
the limiting regent in life
they'll soon start
to change
their
tune - or find
themselves living in a ~leper colony/africa." <<
this is not how
things work
mircea_popescu: "The studious will note
that
this is a completely solved problem
that no machine learning algorithm will be able
to approximate anytime soon." i'm sorry...what ? solved how ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: obviously what's blinding him
to
this is
the expectations
that machines could process it.
this
trivially can never be
the case.
trinque: "tits or gtfo" as far as
that goes
trinque: this is
the guy working on a distro?
mircea_popescu: he's sitting over
there going "hmm.... i would need something like a
tube... but with fins on it... yeah
that's right,
two large fins..."
mircea_popescu: i have
the fucking body of research all published, which is why i can always link
trinque: mircea_popescu: yes html does sort of what he's
talking about
trinque: I was drunk enough
to deal with him at
the
time :D
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 08:38:32; gabriel_laddel: "I need
the ability
to publish a unit of research as an interactive program containing all information used
to draw my conclusions. It shall be entirely and
trivially modifiable, extensible, and if reproducing
the research is possible on
this machine, running
the program shall be a single click or procedure call away. WYSIWYG
tools shall be included and fashioned from
the precepts of geometry.
Thus,
mircea_popescu: well... plenty of subjects are actually rather cooperative, which makes
the instruments more... ergonomic.
mod6: haha, is
that a reverse-stocks of somesort?
mircea_popescu: there's a balance
to be had between "shared context" and "mass hysteria". a meeting of autonomous minds is one of
the very best ways
to achieve
that balance.
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 08:33:16; gabriel_laddel: I'm simply of
the opinion
that our current platform (irc) is
too barbaric and doesn't force enough shared context upon us
to do anything interesting. Any sort of shared vision or whatever gets watered down into discussions like
the above.
mircea_popescu: but it can't be started from
the glibc i don't
think.
that's
the middle.
mod6: since
this discussion, im gonna go back and re-read
these logs.
mircea_popescu: and
then... x person says
this doesn't work. what now ?
mircea_popescu: yeah but
then you end up with something
that works for you
mod6: im sure it's not. just was sort of
thinking about it in some context of "roll your own environment"
mircea_popescu: mod6 building glibcc "by hand" is not
the
trivial
taks you make it out.
jurov: i haven't explored it
to
that depth
mod6: <+jurov>
the libnss was done as binary plugin
to glibc << so
there is no possible way
to just build glibc by hand and not include libnss? or
there are basically so many
things
that use libnss
that even if you did, stuff wouldn't work anyway?
mircea_popescu: mod6 what i mean is, for as long as you use any sort of function
touched, whether you yourself use any of
the libnss "functionality" or not, its gonna be
there
mod6: Anyway,
thanks guise. I
think
that helps me clear a few
things up.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ~whether one even uses libnss or not~! << so even if we didn't even call "whatsMyIP()" or w/e it is,
this would still be a dingleberry attached
to glibc.
mod6: <+ascii_field>
the patch, note, did not remove all (there is a 'what is my ip'
thing in
there ) << ah, i recall. ok and
this is what initiated
the conversation about SHA256 addy's as opposd
to dotted quads right?
mod6: Anyway, going forward, we've got something
to work around
this issue. So,
thanks for
that.
mod6: we were on
track at
that point
to
try
to cut a milestone. but just about
that
time is when we hit
the
tx validation problem in 168`000 ; I
think your patch just got lost in
the shuffle.
mod6: ok, so
that helps us going forward
then.
ascii_field: note, written prior
to
the discovery of
the libnss
thing
ascii_field: the patch, note, did not remove all (there is a 'what is my ip'
thing in
there )
ascii_field: jurov:
the dependency vanishes if you remove -all- instances of host lookup
mod6: is
that releated
to his patch
that removes
the dns stuff?
jurov: iirc alf avoided it somehow, while
throwing out all DNS stuff,
too
mod6: it's not broke from
the web-perspective. i've just read so much stuff
that I've confused myself.
ascii_field: and no, nothing
to do with
the mozilla one
mod6: so libnss is dynamically compiled and built/linked
to glibc, and can not be avoided?
☟︎ jurov: thus
truly statical compilation of glibc is impossbile
mod6: ok maybe
that's
the part I was missing - how libnss is somehow
tied
to glibc.
jurov: the libnss was done as binary plugin
to glibc
jurov: mod6 i can explain,
too.
to support different configurations for DNS/users/whatever resolving without glibc recompilation and without interprocess communication
mod6: asciilifeform: I'm just
trying
to put
together
the monthy address; In one
to
three sentences cna you help me summarize what is going on with glibc/libnss?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: "The hardest part was often reaching Fernández and Castiglione. “I had
to call Brenda four
times
today,” she said with a smile." << lol
mircea_popescu: that either side is generally ignorant of
the equivalencies is nothing short of hysterical, but hey. "specialisation drives performance", i'm
told.
mircea_popescu: (this may be a polichinelle's secret for which everyone here just happens
to be polichinelle, but :
the history of discussion, problems and criticism of languages as approached by IT
types almost exactly mirrors a very similar effort in
teh humanities)
mircea_popescu: the reason "différance" exists is (in
the context of our discussion) exactly
to show
that
the spellchecker problem is np
davout: ah
that was on purpose frenchified english
mircea_popescu: "Confirmation can be
tricky depending on what you mean by it. It’s
trivially
true but most people understand it
to be interrupting confirmation. Which is egregiously … reprehensible. Despicable even."
mircea_popescu: paulgraham.com fucking autoreloads itself wtf spammy idiocy is
this.
mircea_popescu: ie, "you go design a better army and a better war over
there with your wooden horse,
toy sword and military costume, while we're gonna beat
these assholes over here"
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 08:01:08; *: Adlai always found "business logic" reminiscent of "military logic" in
the necessity of distinguishing it from plain simple old "logic"
mircea_popescu: at any rate,
THIS is why i ask people "well, can you do it on a cpanel box" well before.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: yeah,
the
thing ran, and well if you recall.
ben_vulpes: probably how you derp around
the machine shop
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [00:54] how
the everliving fuck is cpanel used with anything other
than php/static wwwtron << fwiw asciilifeform i went
through a very similar saga on a very similar popescuian box. i just
thought
that "this was how
things were supposed
to be" and labored in silence.
ben_vulpes: finding
tango partners online is like 1/1000000th as good a use of
time as finding bdsm partners
mircea_popescu: "you're supposed
to have been", jesus who
the fuck came up with english grammar. "o i know, we'll save on predicative modes!!1"
mircea_popescu: it is humorously posited
that
this is
the very explanation :
they were
trying
to crimp your style specifically.