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asciilifeform: wtf would anybody pay for this
mircea_popescu: a ribbon or something. think reddit gold.
assbot: Tweets about #themeatlist hashtag on Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1c8Flo5 )
mircea_popescu: almost enough to buy a used car!
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the torturous logic involved... srsly, 15k paid accounts ?
mircea_popescu: "a total of 15,495 accounts were identified as having premium FetLife memberships” and that “Male doms make up far and away the largest proportion of FetLife’s [paying] customer base, accounting for 3,452 (22.28%) of the total customer accounts identified."
cazalla: ;;later tell bingoboingo your pino rooster didn't deliver the goods, i ended up betting on mayweather at the last moment :P
mircea_popescu: one needs a particular sort of ingrained uselessness outlook to come to that sort of worldview.
mircea_popescu: similarly the entertainment racket creates the superficial chumpatronic appearance that some chicks "have it easy"
asciilifeform: and certain folks who imagine that they could suck that teat while doing $theirthing instead of penning treatises re: checking privilege etc. - envy academics
asciilifeform: the academia racket does create a superficial chumpatronic appearance that some folks are 'paid to think'
asciilifeform: (who needs 'airbus' if can do this!)
asciilifeform: it has same merit as 'i would like to fly to buenos aires on farts'
mircea_popescu: go do something useful, so your thoughts may be worth thinking in the first place.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i do not personally believe this "pay me to think" thing has any merit whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: it seems she literally intends to remembrance her youth ?
asciilifeform: for the record, when i first encountered green ('07 ?) i definitely had sympathy for the 'someone ought to pay me to think, fuck the world' thing, until i figure out what she intended to 'think' -about-
decimation: asciilifeform: or to be more precise, what the wreck off the rail looks like
mircea_popescu: woman goes on to explain stuff about dentistry.
asciilifeform: partly because, for a serious crackpot, to avoid going entirely off the rails, it is helpful to know what the rails look like.
asciilifeform has been collecting folks like green for a long, long time
mircea_popescu: pretty great find, this
mircea_popescu: see, shoulda got the ecc variant
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: someone decided to use a microcontroller. quite possibly because 29 cents instead of 30 for a '555'. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be fair, it was a flashlight with some basic state - was the kind that is to switch itself on when mains socket it is kept charging in fails
mircea_popescu: Oxford Forum's aim is to expand into an independent college cum university which would generate and publish research in several areas including philosophy, economics, the psychology and physiology of perception, and theoretical physics.
mircea_popescu: The reason Dr Green is not a salaried academic is partly because her ideas are out of sympathy with the prevailing intellectual climate, but also because her education was ruined. A child prodigy, she was the victim of a hostile state education system, and an unsympathetic college when she was an undergraduate at Oxford. She is uniquely suited to doing research, and could be making significant progress in several areas
mircea_popescu: "Dr Green currently holds no salaried academic position, a situation her associates regard as profoundly anomalous and unjust. One of the purposes of Oxford Forum is to reinstate her in the academic world."
decimation: he said recently a sea change has come with kids coming out of school; they want to specify massive cpu, memory for very simple micro-controllers so they can run java ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "why ellipses ? because circles in 4 dimensions project to 3 dimensional ellipses, that's why!"
assbot: Planets in the Fourth Dimension | Azimuth ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYQuoc )
mircea_popescu: https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/planets_in_the_4th_dimension/ << ok i must confess this is a kickass theory.
decimation: asciilifeform: I have a friend who is an old graybeard EE, been working on actual circuitry since the 80's ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 16-07-2014 18:31:23; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: flashlight article << a decade or so ago, i had a flashlight that... crashed! when destroyed, it revealed a microcontroller, with eeprom...
mircea_popescu owned a half lb flashlight in TM. yet it had no processor.
asciilifeform: decimation: visit an electronics store and prepare to have brain come out of ears. i've had flashlights that -crashed.- i drive a car with a -buggy- thermostat controller. (made 12 yrs ago, too. the rot began long ago.)
decimation: asciilifeform: my hp48 was doing tons of processing under the hood, would never delay or have a 'boot time'
mircea_popescu: hidebound reactionary" << wtf does this even mean
asciilifeform: (e.g., texas instruments 'nspire' etc)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: probably set my expectations of machines in fields like responsivity for instance... << very tellingly, children in usa are now being issued with pocket calculators that have -palpable boot times- and delays on all basic ops
decimation: actually lcds are worse in nearly ever respect other than power draw
asciilifeform came from orcish lands where lcd was considered exotic tech
mircea_popescu: it kicked ass, an dprobably set my expectations of machines in fields like responsivity for instance. or stress tolerance
mircea_popescu: http://mycalcdb.free.fr/main.php?l=0&id=6017 this
mircea_popescu: bout the size of a biscuit. same thicknes throughout
mircea_popescu: nah smaller thing, solar powered
assbot: Monty Python - Theory on Brontosauruses by Anne Elk (Miss). - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYPPmA )
mircea_popescu: 10 more if it's built from the ground up with anything in mind.
mircea_popescu: 10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it. (10 more for emphasizing that you worked on your own.)
asciilifeform notices the resemblance to 'elektronika' series
decimation: he didn't even write it, another guy with the same name did
mircea_popescu: shakespeare was also not the first to derp about derpy themes
asciilifeform: but he is the single most articulate dissector of it, of the ones in my library, and so i pick him.
decimation: "Application development, thus, will soon require no programmers. An analyst or manager will specify the requirements by interacting with a sophisti- cated development system, and the computer will do the rest: “There is a major revolution happening in software and system design.... The revolution is the replacement of manual design and coding with automated design and coding.”Ñ "
asciilifeform: tbh weizenbaum is in no sense the originator of the 'mega-computerized bureaucracy will crush all souls' meme
mircea_popescu: pretty much all of the us consists of john smiths, rewriting the bible in their own name.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ^ cheap n-th generation plagiarism of weizenbaum (of eliza) 'computer power and human reason' << this diagnosis is exactly correct, i am persuaded.
asciilifeform: largely, the structure of the idiotron decides for them.
asciilifeform: they 'decide' to approximately the same degree as obama
mircea_popescu: i wish to meet these people.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presumably the particular crackpot meant 'those who decide what is written' rather than the worker bees
mircea_popescu: yeah. the powerful software elite is out there crushing its cessna in irs tax offices.
asciilifeform: it somehow grates the ear less coming out of a broke schizo than a fella like lanier
decimation: he reminds me of that jeron lanier guy
decimation: yeah this guy seems to be derping that the 'software elites' have seized control and are starving the masses
assbot: Joseph Weizenbaum Computer Power and Human Reason From Judgement to Calculation 1976 ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYOc8B )
decimation: "The mechanistic software beliefs, in particular, have permitted a powerful software elite to arise. In just a few decades, organizations that have in fact little to offer us have attained so much power that they practically control society. As we will see in the course of this book, their power rests almost entirely on mechanistic software delusions, and on the stupidity engendered by these delusions."
asciilifeform: there are at least as many idiocies as there idiots to conceive of them
asciilifeform: decimation: to some of these folks, the beige and black that pc chassis traditionally come in is the conspiracy
decimation: sure, but does that mean that hierarchical classification is a conspiracy?
mircea_popescu: "that likes to write in the third person"
asciilifeform: decimation: the realization that software and computing in general as it exists is deeply and profoundly retarded, dawned on many people
mircea_popescu: well the software factory is definitel yretarded.
decimation: but I don't really follow that
decimation: well, he is also melding the idea that the 'software factory' model is retarded into this
asciilifeform: they have more of a 'bad is privilege' thing
mircea_popescu: somehow this idea that "privilege = bad" is getting passed around a certain group of idiots as given gospel.
mircea_popescu: decimation i've noticed that a good heuristic is, if (grep -c "privilege" > 1) break;
asciilifeform: ^ summary of green's works, that is
asciilifeform: (summary: science is broken because, among other things, no one will give green a tenured mega-sinecure to study telepathy)
asciilifeform: www.celiagreen.com << rare female version of this animal
decimation: yes, another quote: "Along with the mechanistic myth, our elites too have turned from good to 24 the mechanistic myth introduction bad. The elites defend the mechanistic myth because it is through this belief that they hold their privileged position."
mircea_popescu: decimation someone here had written the algorithm for that.
asciilifeform: basic pattern, as in linked thread, folks see a problem. (typically, one that requires a certain amount of societal programming failing to anchor in the brain, or having been dislodged in one way or another) but do not have the constructive abilities to see anything but 'remove the cia microwave horn from the neighbour's balcony' as solution space
decimation: I was thinking about the quantity of language as I was going through my books today. amazon has an app that lets you scan a book - even just the cover picture - and it will instantly return the price
asciilifeform: i used to have a whole butterfly collection of links to folks 'like my site but with schizo'
assbot: Logged on 01-05-2015 17:50:39; mircea_popescu: in a "consumer driven" ideas market... the "ideas" will look like the derps.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: compare with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1118051 thread ☝︎
decimation: " But programming is a new human endeavour, and the software charlatans gained control of our software-related affairs, and restricted them, before we could discover all possible alternatives – all the ways that human minds can find to create and use software. Software controlled by an elite is the only software we have ever had, so we cannot know what we have lost."
decimation: "We are aware of lost alternatives only if we once had them. If we had to abandon words, for example, and restrict ourselves to ready-made sentences and ideas, we would immediately recognize the dramatic impoverishment in language-related processes."
decimation: apparently he goes on for 8 chapters about how this 'myth' is ruining western civilization
mircea_popescu: that everything can be put into a tree is a trivial bit of graph theory.
decimation: that's what I thought
decimation: "In this book we are concerned with one particular myth – the mechanistic myth; and we are especially concerned with its latest manifestation – the software myth. Mechanism is the belief that everything can be represented as a hierarchical structure; that is, as a structure of things within things."
assbot: Software and Mind: The Mechanistic Myth and Its Consequences ... ( http://bit.ly/1EYM805 )
decimation: http://softwareandmind.com/ < some guy derping about the 'mechanistic myth'
decimation: note that the complaints of the rabble never hold up to any reasonable examination
mircea_popescu: all it takes practically is to break it once, then it's broken.
assbot: Logged on 02-05-2015 23:17:43; jurov: fucking police state, this
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2015#1118731 << the thing is, it's not even may yet. it's going to be a painful summer. that place's slowly but surely becoming ungovernable, and with the extreme frailty of the jit style they deployed everywhere... there's little if any redundancy. ☝︎