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asciilifeform: ( ada params are a moar complicated matter than ffa might suggest: when reading heathen proggies you will encounter such things as 'aliased' i.e. pointerola , and related items. )

ben_vulpes: okay i'll look into that.

asciilifeform: i.e. writes 0 into each word of the destination.

mircea_popescu: aside the matter that the problem hasn't been approached in postmoidernism, i dun see much better solutions available than historically found.

ben_vulpes: anyways, way the heck upstack, `FZ_Clear` 'sets a given FZ to zero' but i only see an outparam; is this not more of a constructor than zero-er?

mircea_popescu: this is why this interests me, "make stove, with 1700s tech, i'll put it in the calorimeter and measure your %"

asciilifeform: i can picture.

ben_vulpes: ah i have seen variations on this

ben_vulpes: i have a hole in the wall into which i pour bezzlars and light them on fire for fun

ben_vulpes: can i get a link to this "dutch stove" marvel fo engineering?

mircea_popescu: remarkab ly small. i dunno whether it's a work-of-art omfg i can't believe master stovier managed to get the smokes crushed into that space or rather "we dunno what we did". i could guess, but why guess.

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm rhapsodizing about my tiny fireplace

mircea_popescu: (and i am deeply unsurprised the anglotards know not what they talk of. country of whiskey drinkers and so on)

ben_vulpes: fireplace just ain't a worthwhile thing unless you've got the woodpile to keep ti at least smouldering all day, roaring at night, and pretty lasses to keep it stoked. nevertheless, i'll enjoy this one while i have it.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the flat i grew up in, had one

ben_vulpes: remarked the other night that i understood in short order the fireplace -> 'franklin' stove motivations

asciilifeform: but i want a musltronic linux, and yes with gnat

trinque: since I last ran the recipe, as yet anonymous shitgnomes broke the downgrade to gcc 4.9.4

asciilifeform: trinque: i'd much like to see a working musltronic gnat

trinque: I'm over here dusting off the musl gentoo recipe to produce same.

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hey relatedly as you might deduce i do have a usable gnat setup nao

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: here's a lul : where i live there is almost unlimited firewood (someone is always cutting down old wood, giving away) but i've no fireplace.

ben_vulpes: entirely unrelatedly, i had a half-cord of firewood dropped off and racked tidily in my basement a week or so ago and holy smokes the luxury of having effectively unlimited firewood during the wintertime is almost as good as i imagine not having to suffer through pacific northwest winters must be

mircea_popescu: moreover i'm curious how they'll "fix" this. evidently correct solution (throw out amazonaws from hitler list of "acceptable websites") ain't happening so.. what ? introduce limit of max 8 chars for subdomain ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752340 << eh that's from the land where there exist 'building engineer' (i.e. janitor) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: best construction i can put on it is, "closest pantsuit can come to saying chumpatron operator wanted".

mircea_popescu: i had no idea it even existed.

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i have never understood wtf that was or how it was supposed to work

asciilifeform: re 'unknown', i suspect that the stink of the landfill of usgism it lay buried in, is not entirely irrelevant

a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 01:40 asciilifeform stuck presently in an infuriating gnat labyrinth : turns out, a proggy that set pragma Restrictions(No_Secondary_Stack) , cannot use Ada.Command_Line ( equiv of argc/argc in c-planet ). so then asciilifeform went to make own replacement. and turns out , guesswat, no can haz, because pragma Restrictions(No_Unchecked_Conversion) -- and argv, where commandline lives, is a pointer to nonadatronic (i.e. c-style) string .

asciilifeform: incidentally http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752302 is worth expanding on : it is impossible to implement Ada.Command_Line sanely (i.e. without using secondary stack.) the reason is that argv is a potential 'infinity' -- it contains an uncapped number of c-strings of uncapped ( as are all c-strings ) length. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 20:39 asciilifeform: i could've sworn there was a mod6 thread about this not long ago

asciilifeform: until nao i never thought of doing it

asciilifeform: (i.e. chunks of the language)

asciilifeform: unless i missed sumthing.

asciilifeform: so then the obvious answer is from the standard, which proclaims that Restrictions(....) can be made to act per-partition (i.e. on libffa , but not the calling prog)

asciilifeform stuck presently in an infuriating gnat labyrinth : turns out, a proggy that set pragma Restrictions(No_Secondary_Stack) , cannot use Ada.Command_Line ( equiv of argc/argc in c-planet ). so then asciilifeform went to make own replacement. and turns out , guesswat, no can haz, because pragma Restrictions(No_Unchecked_Conversion) -- and argv, where commandline lives, is a pointer to nonadatronic (i.e. c-style) string . ☟︎

mircea_popescu: !~later peterl i dunno, i think the ideal is no future for macs.

asciilifeform: in other noose, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1913&cpage=1#comment-18418 << congrats to PeterL, the first (self-proclaimed, but there ain't gonna be any other kind, i dun run a usg-style school, 'diploma' is a matter of yer own conscience) ffa ch1 graduate .

PeterL: I guess it is good I built in on a mac, exposes some bugs that would not have been seen if everybody used linux

PeterL: asciilifeform: I have succesfully built the FFA chapters 1-3 (on this here mac), and they give the expected respones using the included demo.

ben_vulpes: and i am to update my blog every time someone takes down matter linked from a mailing list post?

PeterL: bah, my kids are making a mess, I will have to continue this later

PeterL: that's kinda what I was thinking might be the problem

asciilifeform: fwiw i tested with his vtron, and mine, prior to releasing each ch 1-3

PeterL: I tried to press the ffa with the mod6 v, and I am getting this error: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/30JHp/?raw=true

a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 20:27 PeterL: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system was the page where I went to the ml with the dead links, ben_vulpes maybe that should be updated?

asciilifeform: i could've sworn there was a mod6 thread about this not long ago ☟︎

PeterL: http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system was the page where I went to the ml with the dead links, ben_vulpes maybe that should be updated? ☟︎

PeterL: ah, yes, I see it now.

PeterL: so I was trying to follow the ffa series, started at loper-os, followed the link to v, ended up at http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000200.html and I am getting <title>404 Not Found</title> when I tried to download the links in 0x02, did I do something wrong or am I not looking at the most up to date v source or what?

asciilifeform: a disney deathhose 9000, for all i know.

mircea_popescu: ~black~ seals, ie artical-american, i forgot to add.

a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 17:30 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752144 << how come n00bs never append 'and here are some words that i published on the subject' to this

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752144 << how come n00bs never append 'and here are some words that i published on the subject' to this ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: pretty sure i heard some

shinohai: It was soup, therefore why I slapped myself to stop laughter, drank coffee, continued day.

a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 16:33 shinohai: I need coffee, I'm sitting here listening to asciilifeform 's txt Romanian dictionary through espeak.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752189 << i find it hard to picture anything but randomsoup coming from such a thing ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 13:34 esthlos: i've been reading, but its hard to pull together a narrative

a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 13:30 esthlos: BingoBoingo: i've been considering hacking around with eurola, its seems like a game which actually rewards intelligence

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752155 << really, everything is specifically designed with the single goal in mind of rewarding intelligence, be it v, the wot, ANYTHING. in fact, if something didn't reward intelligence i'd very much like to hear about it, because that's the one and only cause for reform. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-16#1752144 << anything i could look at in either direction ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-12-16 13:08 iangeker: I am introduced to here by Shannon, I am suppose to have an interview with Mircea. So I am waiting for the interview.

shinohai: He said something about her returning @ 2am local time here to chat I believe?

mircea_popescu: hm i wonder what china standard time is in ticotime lessee

shinohai: I need coffee, I'm sitting here listening to asciilifeform 's txt Romanian dictionary through espeak. ☟︎

esthlos: BingoBoingo: i will start reading some logs. enjoy your sun and beautiful women

esthlos: oh duh i have to decrypt the msg

esthlos: i'm messaging deedbot

esthlos: so i've been blasting through the blogs of the 'lords'

esthlos: i've been reading, but its hard to pull together a narrative ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I've heard great things about it as well, but my work has sucked me down a different Republican rabbit hole.

esthlos: BingoBoingo: i've been considering hacking around with eurola, its seems like a game which actually rewards intelligence ☟︎

esthlos: BingoBoingo: i know enough about computing to know that asciilifeform is right about the general idiocy

esthlos: BingoBoingo: i'll put it this way

esthlos: I've been trying to wrap my head around TMSR

iangeker: I am introduced to here by Shannon, I am suppose to have an interview with Mircea. So I am waiting for the interview. ☟︎

iangeker: it means I can send a message to the channel now?

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/so-heres-what-i-did-today/ << Trilema - So here's what I did today :

asciilifeform: 'They looked at me like I was a fucking videocard artefact, "something that can't exist", and I didn't insist.' << lol!!

shinohai: Sometimes the stars align nicely, and the universe sends German girls that are curious to know what ancient woodworking tools are and are willing to show tits for said knowledge: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1513380843137.jpg

asciilifeform: in contrast with, e.g., a boeck : who is 'technically' flavoured ( i.e. mouthpiece for dropping vulns usg wants 'burned' )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd propose 'a moxie' , a la 'a preet', fairly large group of very similar kanzure-style politruks

BingoBoingo: iangeker: While you await mircea_popescu there are logs you may browse. I take it you are here for the China embassy position?

asciilifeform: i fully expect that attempts to 'fix' the 'bugs' will continue. ( which bugs? e.g. the 'bug' where bitcoin actually works; the one where it dun belong to the moxies and boecks, i.e. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637750 ; the 'bug' where it doesn't need to ask for permission from them to work ; etc ) ☝︎

ben_vulpes: as i said recently to a friend, "heck yeah that sounds like just the thing the world has been missing until right this very moment! buy anything other than bitcoin, wouldja? keep malia free for another decade..."

shinohai: Oh that's right! I was working with trinque on that in clwiki .....

robbinhood: okay, I'll do that

shinohai the trilema wiki got put on back burner, I forgot why.

shinohai: I've been meaning to do a totally new, 2018 trilema writeup of all that.

shinohai: Was on Eulorum wiki I think?

mircea_popescu: shinohai was there a noob primer for this i keep forgetting

mircea_popescu: alright. that concludes this first phase, which you've survived. im guessing a decision will fall in about two weeks, i'll notify you by name here in either case. you can see it by looking for http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea+%22robbinhood%22 ☟︎

robbinhood: I prefer to work 20 hours

robbinhood: sorry I was disconnected

shinohai: Well, I see "Bitch" in there. This is why I don't translate Chinese.

robbinhood: I live in university dormitory with my classmates

robbinhood: now I am working on fiverr.com

robbinhood: sorry, I didn't understand what you meant