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decimation: mircea_popescu: incidentally, uranium fission is
the only non-mass-polluting
technology
that can deliver first world level energy
to
the entire population for a
thousand years
livegnik: I prefer evangelist
though. I'm way
too stoked about our product
to be a regular salesguy.
livegnik: So, as a salesman, I might sell it as supernode Rollodex, relaying information among
trusted parties.
livegnik: You can join #identifi
to get in
touch with sirius directly.
livegnik: If something goes in-depth
too far for me, I'll definitely let you know
to get in
touch with sirius about it.
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah, apparently 'our' knowledge of uranium reserves are quite limited. people haven't been
trying
to mine uranium for
thousands of years (like gold)
livegnik: As long as it doesn't go in-depth concerning
the
technicals, a good salesman should at least be able
to discuss
the concept, right?
mircea_popescu: "I agree. I'm no academic nor coder" << basically, you're
trying
to sell something.
the problem is
that
the
thing you're
trying
to sell has problems. send
the engineers
that made it instead.
livegnik: mircea_popescu: Not sure what you're
trying
to point
there for sure, but one of
the reasons I've joined
this channel is because
there are probably a few people who have
thought extensively about
this
topic.
livegnik: williamdunne:
that's why I said not
to stare at identi.fi
too much, it's basically meant for demo-purposes,
to explain
the back-end.
livegnik: by any other (1st
to infinite degree) party at any
time.
This information should at least make it much easier for any party
to decide for
themselves what is best for
them.
livegnik: The system doesn't only consist of
the identities within
the digital Rolodex, but also of all
the claims
that have been made about
them,
livegnik: I like
the analogy of an electronic Rolodex. It's dissimilar
to
the extent
that it wasn't shared as easily among all
trusted parties.
williamdunne: Feels a bit awkward. I like
the idea but it feels like crap
mircea_popescu: the entire
thing would drastically benefit from getting
the people involved here. it has fundamental problems which are apparently difficult
to grasp. whatever
they may
think
they're doing with
their
time
that's a better use, isn't.
livegnik: So
there's
the ID part and
the reputation part.
livegnik: You can only up/down-vote
the identifiers
themselves. Next, you can say anything about
them under ratings.
livegnik: Identifiers are what construct
the identity.
The ratings are apart from
that.
williamdunne: Mmm adding
them as rates seems awkward, should be separate. Also gives a false sense of security
livegnik: I could add an identifier like
that and get a verifaction from my bank and/or social network
that way.
livegnik: The self-rate
thing is verifying identifiers (which are called "connections"
there). By verifying an identifier you add said identity +
that identifier
to your WoT.
livegnik: You can do RPC calls on
the back-end, basically how you can do it with bitcoind
livegnik: williamdunne: Sure. Just don't stare at
the front-end
too much, it's only
to give you an idea.
The real magic happens on
the back-end;
the daemon.
mircea_popescu: livegnik you'd be much better served getting in
the wot
than writing white papers. experimentally, nobody reads
thoise.
williamdunne: Can I have a link
to your profile, I wanna see
the rating system?
livegnik: We don't have a whitepaper yet. Working on it
though. It would be much easier
to grasp
the concept with some details on
the data format, database design, network
topology, etc.
mircea_popescu: decimation anyway,
the important point in all of
that is
the natural insolation on ground is
to
the degree of 20 MJ/day.
williamdunne: Ah okay, not what I was hearing about. Still interested
tho so give me a sec
to read-up again on it
williamdunne: I
think I've been hearing about identifi recently, let me check I'm on about
the right
thing one sec
livegnik: Anything else I might be able
to explain about Identifi? I remember
that
there were some more questions last
time after I left.
williamdunne: Na
thats 2.5 minute blocks, so
this is like 2.5 litecoins. And
there are double as many litecoins as
there are bitcoins so
this idea is worth what, 105,000,000 bitcoins?
mircea_popescu: wtf is with
these idiots. don't
they realise just how obvious
their agenda becomes from all
the failures ? "we gotta fuck up bitcoin. o, i know, let's make
the blocks larger. wait, mp said no. i know, make
the
timing shorter. one way or another, must destroy
the decentralisation!!11"
mircea_popescu: williamdunne because clearly 1 minute blocks are so helpful
to ltc it already
tookover.
livegnik: Thnx mircea_popescu . I'll be off in 30 minutes or so, and haven't been able
to get sirius in here yet. Both pretty busy atm, but sure he'll join us some other
time.
williamdunne: Might as well port
the DB
to MongoDB while we're at it
decimation: hell add on google protocol buffers
too
williamdunne: Anyone want
to ask him if he
thinks we should implement X11ScryptDark++
too?
decimation: so your estimate might be off by about 1000 if you include
that. Also presumably most of
the 'heavy hitter' bombs would use heavy water fusion secondaries
assbot: Why "representative democracy" doesn't work and doesn't make sense on
Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1H8EopW )
mircea_popescu: thatr's exactly what it is.
the whole
thing
that made usg work makes us work. it'll make us great long after it buried it.
mircea_popescu: essentially
the position of
the Catholic church, hoping
that it may
teach people
to read and write in such a way
that
they'll actually continue
to
take
the "Holy Scripture" seriously. Why would
they ?
They won't,
they don't, it's just not how
that works.
mircea_popescu: This would also be why I don't
think so very much of
the libertards, and why I find myself so often in contradiction with people who view
them as either powerful or in any sense a
threat (usually both) :
they aren't, either, nor could
they really be, either, because
the only
tool
they know actually works for
them only a short distance of its run, and for us
the entire length of
that same run.
The libertard's gambit is
☟︎ assbot: Why "representative democracy" doesn't work and doesn't make sense on
Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1H8EjCO )
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:55:59; asciilifeform:
that's
the
thing,
the 'increasingly sees as pointless' was after
things
turned 'rational'
mircea_popescu: (note
that i didn't even bother with using
the fact
that 99.9% of uranium is not more fissile
than lead, nor
the fact
that you will never actually manage
to bust up ALL
the atoms)
mircea_popescu: consider
the following math : uranium reserves, about 6*10^9 kgs. about 0.1% of
this is usable for
the purpose. uranium molar mass is ~250 [grams/mol] which means ~ 6*10^9 * 1000/250 * 6*10^23 atoms in
total. meanwhile energy output is ~200 MeV per event. your
total ideal available energy is
thus ~1.44 * 10^32 eV. meanwhile land surface is ~1.50 * 10 ^ 14 sqm. So you get a
total of ~10*17 eV per square meter, or a litt
mircea_popescu: contrary
to what is generally propagandized,
there isn't a way
to use
them effectually on
the field.
the only effectual use for
them is in mass media.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:59:24; jurov: su was bad at
that
mircea_popescu: then lay
them out, and power/internet one side of
the wall.
mircea_popescu: just make a power and internet hook=up so
that each
tile can in principle power/be powered by and connect/be connected by each of its 4 neighbours.
mircea_popescu: you cant just print scrip because you got a scrip printer.
that's not how it works.
mircea_popescu: be it conquer
the south or
the moon, but a mission, see. something interesting
to do.
mircea_popescu: just like
the us was a
thing back when
that guy
they shot had a mission
mircea_popescu: just like you can be
the life of
the party and command everyone's attention for as long as you're being riveting ; just as long as you can
tell women
to suck your cock for just as long as it's a juicy cock
to suck.
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:48:14; decimation: but on
the flip side you can print scrip and force your subjects
to honor it
mircea_popescu: was kinda wanting
to see if anyone wants
to go
through
those, get an independent evaluation in.
mats: mircea_popescu: are you planning
to keep
the courts project open?
trinque: plenty of useless white hoodlums in
the south
too
trinque: I dunno
that it goes beyond "this is what disorganized poverty looks like"
chetty: its worse
than not caring, black kids are scroned for even
trying in school,
the get
told
they are acting
too white
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:49:36; williamdunne: ah, countering
the 419
mircea_popescu: trinque > jurov: ^
that about covers it << seriously, reddit, who cares.
jurov: lol, i realized literally 2 days ago i moved eulora off ssd
to free some space
ben_vulpes: "Warning: Can't synchronize with
the repository (Couldn't open Subversion repository /home/crystal/scm/crystal: SubversionException: ("Expected FS format between '1' and '3'; found format '4'", 160043))."
jurov: damn, it's even impossible
to
type correctly
jurov: imma
totally use
that word for eulora review, "hyperbitconinized"
trinque: "dude dude, all you have
to do is write
this app and we'll be rich"
trinque: this reads like some stoner fuck
trying
to
tell me his app ideas, lol
trinque: jurov: ^
that about covers it
trinque: "Since I have neither money nor knowledge
to build something myself"
danielpbarron: there's a guy from seals
that brings his own custom made
table