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mircea_popescu: decimation i make some from trilema.
mircea_popescu: is that alf actually beats a lot of "professional" managers
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:55:34; ascii_field: (actually ~1.4 that it turned into)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132434 << yeah srsly, one of the best private chuckles for ... well, for some people ☝︎
asciilifeform: williamdunne: cost will inescapably have to adjust to exchange rate at time of mass production
asciilifeform: 'do you believe in clubs for young people?' 'yes, but one ought to try kindness first'
mircea_popescu: (one of my favourite jokes long ago. because i knew this ugly obnoxious dude who was kinda rape-y, and also kept buying clubs, as in, bars with music.)
asciilifeform: decimation: the same amount of girl pickup energy i have
mircea_popescu: what do you think this is, a gilliam movie ?
asciilifeform: just as theoretically possible.
mircea_popescu: well... you could start polyamory-ing, and then getting a new girl each week and then tricking her into having her picture taken with weird numbers written on her chest.
asciilifeform: williamdunne: i couldn't use coinbr even if wanted to, because it would be a recurring btc cost and i have no btc-denominated income stream.
mircea_popescu: he can access them via otc, for that matter, just sell em to someone. but it makes little sense before share goes over par.
mircea_popescu: (i also fucked up the math, warrants only worth like 330)
williamdunne: Can't you access warrants and the similar through coinbr?
mircea_popescu: better than vegas eh.
asciilifeform: which can turn into 0 when mircea_popescu resets the price of mpex ticket to equal 663.1905
mircea_popescu: ima make sure the mpex fee is 1.250 mn or so at that point :D
mircea_popescu: suppose within the year cardano proves such a success s.nsa trades ~0.00020000 like s.bbet. at that point, your 70% share of the stock will be worth 663.1905 ; your warrants like another 663.1904. if btc is 1.2k at that point again, you're now worth a million and a half in benjies
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you recall the entire warrants business btw ?
asciilifeform: but mainly taken in proverbial 'organs worth' sense of 'more money than i ever expect to touch at one time'
asciilifeform: if correctly parcelled out and sold to americans, they could be worth 10k.
mircea_popescu: what do you take yourself for, a 16yo girl ?
mircea_popescu: what is that, like 70% yours ?
asciilifeform: regardless of what is bought and sold by s.nsa, i can't eat any of it unless i buy mpex ticket.
asciilifeform: no relation to extant numbers. but serious question.
williamdunne: asciilifeform: Wouldn't it serve the opposite purpose, and encourage account reselling?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, what is to keep it from costing X, where X is whatever s.nsa is worth at that time ?
asciilifeform is wondering what mpex seat will cost by the time he actually needs it
mircea_popescu: but anyway : it's not to anything. it's because.
mircea_popescu: well in practice it seems it's mainly to drive people up the wall.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so this is mainly to discourage reselling account ?
mircea_popescu: it's no such proof. it's proof that you are willing to allow the holder of key y to continue in your stead. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is ludicrous sophistry and you know it. if i sign key y with key x, it is proof that i hold key x. nothing to do with parents or children, no analogy here.
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:49:50; davout: meanwhile, http://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/ leads to a "The Free Trial is Over" stock page XD
williamdunne: >It was recently brought to my attention that yes, the MPEx fee for registering new accounts is still 30 BTC.
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:44:05; ascii_field: i'm kinda curious why mircea_popescu considers a new key signed with a previous key to not be a logical continuation of the same identity. (is it because of the impossibility of hard-guaranteed revocation, as discussed in previous thread?) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132394 << not a question of "logical continuation". are children the "logical continuation" of their parents ? are they still required to pass the bacalaureat ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:45:38; jurov: he's born into wrong time, prolly wants to build a pyramid
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132398 << lol teh haet. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 02:29:00; decimation: asciilifeform: apparently it's mp's position that an mpex seat is implicitly time limited
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132514 << this appears to be an inescapable inference, yes ☝︎
assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5hSzT )
mircea_popescu: mats went to check out the courts article, seems there's quite a bit left to go before i can close & award it. http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#selection-317.0-325.66 ☟︎
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5d9xT )
decimation: basically the us stole saudi arabia's oil from the british - which is the foundation of us power in the middle east for the past 70 years. obama apparently is ignorant of this history
williamdunne: >Even the offer by Obama of a separate tete-a-tete in Washington could not persuade Saudi Arabia’s King Salman to attend what Riyadh sources describe as “a photo-op” aimed at hoodwinking the American public.
menahem: williamdunne ahh i love #b-a.. all the right reminders. :)
decimation: yeah that's a good point. apparently the arabs are not happy that the us intends to proxy iran instead of them
williamdunne: Haven't heard about that one, what should I be googling?
mircea_popescu: obama holds an arab world summit, nobody goes, us press is all quiet on THAT score.
mircea_popescu: brilliant plan, brilliantly executed. meanwhile, the chinese go to putin's victory celebration, the us press derps about how the european heads of "states" missed the opportunity to be relevant.
mircea_popescu: decimation yeah totally. meanwhile the brilliant plan tostop supporting israel has resulted in an israel that could no longerr pull off the halfweek war, thus the arabs are no longer affraid of it, thus saudi arabia has no further need for the us alliance, thus they're trashing it.
decimation: mircea_popescu: sure! bombing libya was an example of a brilliant plan to shepard the outbreak of love and democracy, not throwing matches at a barrel of petrol
mircea_popescu: derp on trilema offers "military campaigns" as example of plans that worked (tm)
decimation: asciilifeform: apparently it's mp's position that an mpex seat is implicitly time limited ☟︎
asciilifeform: local l0ltr0n: last week, university of maryland proclaimed that it will charge higher tuition price to students majoring in business, engineering, and comp. sci.
BingoBoingo: Not yet. May guve that a try if I pick up LEDs before this batch dies. Was considering LED bulbs for an outdoor fixture, but witing on outdoor fixture's bulb to die first because it hates human contact.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have a fixture which disagrees with CFLS. Since the bulbocaust my stock is depleting rapidly as bulbs that once lasted years only now last months
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asciilifeform: http://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/afips/index.html << interestingly, they stopped holding this conference in '87. which closely, if approximately, lines up with 'when computers stopped being interesting'
asciilifeform: the key boojum missing from all of this work is: a likewise purely-magnetic means of arbitrarily altering the -interconnects- between elements.
asciilifeform: 'deposited magnetic films as logic elements.' (proceedings of the eastern joint computer conference, 1959. franck, marette, & parsegyan.)
asciilifeform: unsurprisingly, nothing i said today is actually new
assbot: Trust relationship from user williamdunne to user Josh_rossi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=williamdunne&to=Josh_rossi | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Josh_rossi/
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 22:53:19; decimation: re: pay 30 btc to upgrade mpex keys < does this mean that if you can crack an mpex key you get to use it?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2015#1132454 << how could the answer possibly be anything other than yes ? ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Ironically I stumbled into it looking for ways to kill certain unwelcome plants
cazalla: nice gardening blog btw, ty for link
cazalla: BingoBoingo, not cups but i vaguely remember about 25 years ago that they did a big song and dance about biodegradable plastic bags here down under and how they would be phased in and the old ones phased out, yet to this day they still carry on about plastic bags
decimation: re: pay 30 btc to upgrade mpex keys < does this mean that if you can crack an mpex key you get to use it? ☟︎
assbot: The Compostable Cup Trials | Garden Rant ... ( http://bit.ly/1bT5k1V )
cazalla: much better than the grainy tumblr shit someone else links :) ☟︎
ascii_field: but answer is no, it wasn't a proper beta account, it was a one-off demo that dissolved in ~month
ascii_field: (ancient post, where i described why did this: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1139 )
jurov: or you traded hanbot out of 0.4 funbux and then gave them to mircea instead?
ascii_field: (actually ~1.4 that it turned into) ☟︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu even gave me a 1 btc to drive it with
jurov: but you still have the account?
jurov: ben_vulpes: no, that is not necessary :)
ben_vulpes: i don't feel like loading the MPEx api into my head today.
jurov: it was the rest that took half a year
ben_vulpes: (for the uninitiated: i'm being very sarcastic)
ben_vulpes: ragel's sitting right over there, etc
ben_vulpes: <jurov> they'd have to hire knuth himself to squeeze something usable out of that atrocious api << ah, it's not that bad, just write a parser for the variety-speaking ad-hoc blublang
ascii_field: in the hypothetical machine, we cannot have the diode.
davout: meanwhile, http://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/ leads to a "The Free Trial is Over" stock page XD ☟︎☟︎
ascii_field: (read scan from earlier to learn why)
ascii_field: jurov: magnetic logic as described in the literature mostly 'cheated' by including a diode with each gate
ascii_field: in the miniature version i suggested, performance may well edge into overlap with the worst silicon
assbot: Magnetic logic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1H5TudA )
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: i suspect this can be pushed up as the transformer cores are made smaller and coils themselves shorter (less inductive)
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> well, nothing approaching transistor << what sorta frequencies *did* work?
jurov: he's born into wrong time, prolly wants to build a pyramid ☟︎
ascii_field: perhaps when he wakes up again, will tell
ascii_field: i'm kinda curious why mircea_popescu considers a new key signed with a previous key to not be a logical continuation of the same identity. (is it because of the impossibility of hard-guaranteed revocation, as discussed in previous thread?) ☟︎
jurov: i suspect boilers will have much better ROI than another honest broker
ascii_field: jurov: i thought the gnarly api was part of the 'bozo filter' just as the price was
jurov: they'd have to hire knuth himself to squeeze something usable out of that atrocious api